How much power!?

Started by Joel Kelly, August 06, 2004, 09:04:16 AM

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g11ary

Could not have put that better, glad Im not the only one around here that see\'s a favourtism ( or poetic licence) towards a particular co.

congrates on the car, she is sweet and a good example, you will enjoy her.

rx7veilside

my reason for posting this was not to level any criticism or blame as i stated the graph has only just become avail and there was no intention to mislead .joel posted the figures after a mobile phone call and never had a chance to discuss the figures before he posted in his excitement.while the figures were high it wasnt the only car being run that day so had limited time to investigate.and i add again the figures were posted by joel not the engine builder.once the exhaust has been changed for a more reasonable one car will be on the rollers and is fully expected to achieve approx 440-450fwhp and the approp rwp which will be very close to the previous figure.if everyone can be patient i will be present at the mapping in about a months time and will ensure the info posted is accurate.i understand there might be some underlying issues floating around here but having seen this happen on scoobynet it seems a shame to happen here after all bhp this and bhp that do not matter theyare just for chat between people and this really was a case of too much haste in posting the figures without having the data avail
so to sum up its a small community and more could be achieved if we all got allong

bill shurvinton

You have nothing to apologise for. However it remains that there are 2 people who should know better who should have pointed out that the posted figures were more than high, they were impossible. And both of them posted on this thread.

If the engine is well built I have no doubt that it will over time reach the required HP at around 1.1 to 1.2 bar

Bill

rx7veilside

i understand there are certain issues here and would like to put this to bed now my car will be back for final mapping and i will only post what i blve to be accurate.i must stipulate again joel jumped the gun by posting the figure before any investigation had been done and it snowballed from there as human nature is to get defensive when questioned and i really dont think there was any intention to mislead and as with all things in life there are allways 2 sides to a story and i guess the lesson here was patience after all i should be the one saying but i thought it was 500bhp but i am not that bothered about a rolling road just how it goes on the road..anyway hope to see lots of u at trax and we can all compare rolling road printouts and have a laugh:rollin :rollin

DRAGON

Just got back and read this thread. Some of you guys should take more note of what Bill says. and also just look at the facts. 3540+street port+0.8bar=no where near 417atws.
Rich surely you realised it was too high.
I have never taken a car on the dyno, but guess the bride port is about 400 atws at the current 1.1 boost

Carl

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QuoteOriginally posted by DRAGON
Just got back and read this thread. Some of you guys should take more note of what Bill says. and also just look at the facts. 3540+street port+0.8bar=no where near 417atws.
Rich surely you realised it was too high.
I have never taken a car on the dyno, but guess the bride port is about 400 atws at the current 1.1 boost

Hi Ross,
That is very reasonable for you to say. The bridgeport 13b makes around 250-280 flywheel N/A. Then add a little over twice the Bar(N/A +1.1bar),take a little out for air temp increase and you have probably just over 500 flywheel hp.A side port just could not make the N/A figures and so could never produce the same power at lower boost.

Kind regards
Carl