Wanted,,, anyone got a set of bnr stage 3s

Started by tiger18, November 08, 2012, 05:35:21 PM

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jetpilot

Quote from: SpAm@FC;841404will bump you EASILY up in the region of 4000gbp minimum.

You obviously dont look at the for sale section, you can buy a good single turbo rx7 for that money these days and that is the whole car.

Whilst you will of course defend your advertised price, regardless of condition, import rates etc etc unfortunately for you, there are plenty of good quality single turbo kits available for half what you are asking, it doesnt take a genius to work out, no matter your points of discussion, what most people will go for!

I would rather not enter a big debate, but you pointing out some points of interest as to why these are still for sale and glwts :)

SpAm@FC

I\'m totaly with you, I\'ve stated this with

Quoteall of these mentioned setups will bring the car from A to B, the question is what you really want. A half assed beater or a well engineered car?


It all depends on the personal goals an owner of a car has ;)
I\'m the type of person who will never use a journal bearing, single wastegate, non twinscroll single :) But that\'s just my opinion ;) I like engineering, and I like the way mazda did the full sequential twins back the days. Therefore I also like the achievement of Bryan to develop a nice full sequential setup ;)

As sad, a multi-thousand € setup will bring you from A to B, but so does a used 2000€ setup :)

And yes, I look at the for sale sections often ;) But I would never buy a used single setup :P

I also don\'t want go to deep into the single vs. twin discussion, I just would let people know that the price of my set of bnr\'s isn\'t a brain fart, it\'s reality if you buy new parts ;)

marf

To put the price of these BNRs in perspective, a set of 99 twins from Yahoo Japan is going to set you back £1000 + JP handling costs + shipping costs + UK Handling costs + VAT + Duty, so probably £1600 or so delivered to your door.

500 more for an upgraded set aint half bad.

gav240z

Some interesting points in this thread as someone who likes the original twins (pre 99 spec) and has a standard exhaust system / stock intercooler etc..

I have also been considering if I should just leave the car as is, go BNR uprated twins or convert to single turbo set up at some stage.

Yes you can buy a pre-converted car, trouble is - I find many of the single turbo cars I\'ve seen may not have the best set up for street. Some have massive turbo\'s which are no good for the roads in Ireland (not sure about UK) but even with stock twins my car is plenty fast.

If anyone has ever bought anything into the UK / EU from outside you\'ll soon realise the listed price on a website is often far cheaper than what you actually pay with shipping + tax etc..

I paid around 400GBP for a 99 spec bumper skin (only!) new from Mazda to give an idea.

I would imagine a good single turbo vs a poor single turbo set up would be like night and day in terms of the way the car drives.

I\'ve also considered buying a converted single turbo FD but often the bodywork looks appalling (not a fan of body kits on FD\'s to be honest) so your going to have to invest 2-3k in bodywork to return it to standard and repaint it.

So I guess it all comes back to preference, what do you want from your car? The BNR\'s are good value for money as far as I can tell.

Here are some links to Knightsport twins (converted to non seq)
http://www.fdrx7.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10679

BNR\'s in Australia
http://www.fdrx7.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11284

jetpilot

Quote from: SpAm@FC;841423it\'s reality if you buy new parts ;)

If your offering warranty it will help the sale of your parts :)

SpAm@FC

Quote from: jetpilot;841460If your offering warranty it will help the sale of your parts :)

I can guarantee that the set is unused, undamaged and complete, for warranty purposes you have to deal with the manufacturer, Bryan.

This guy is a standup guy with a very good reputation and a very well known business, IF there are problems (which are not) he definitely will help the new owner.

Are you a little upset because I\'ve told you the reality that used journal bearing single turbo setups with ebay manifolds and ebay wastegates are worth nothing because... erm... they are :censored::censored::censored::censored:? ;)

Looks like you are a serious internet-troll ;)

jetpilot

Quote from: SpAm@FC;841465I can guarantee that the set is unused, undamaged and complete, for warranty purposes you have to deal with the manufacturer, Bryan.

This guy is a standup guy with a very good reputation and a very well known business, IF there are problems (which are not) he definitely will help the new owner.

Are you a little upset because I\'ve told you the reality that used journal bearing single turbo setups with ebay manifolds and ebay wastegates are worth nothing because... erm... they are :censored::censored::censored::censored:? ;)

Looks like you are a serious internet-troll ;)

Not at all buddy, i love my single turbo, i loved my twin turbo when i had that.

I have a very nice journal bearing turbo with cast manifold and hks wastegate, just so you dont have to presume.

Just trying to clarify whether you are selling new parts with warranty or used, so thanks for clarifying they are 2nd hand as they dont come with warranty.

Glwts :)

gav240z

@jetpilot I\'m not trying to provoke anyone here but where do I find a good single turbo FD for 4k?

jetpilot

Quote from: gav240z;841467@jetpilot I\'m not trying to provoke anyone here but where do I find a good single turbo FD for 4k?

There are quite a few, but depends on your definition of good, at that price they will need some attention, whether that\'s bodywork or some fettling to get the most out of the single, fuelling mods, intercooler perhaps. I  bought mine for a bit over £4k.

There have been two very nice streetable turbo kits sell recently, at a grand ish and also new ones available for just over £2k from a well respected advertiser on here.

The talk of streetable is an argument in itself, define steetable, its individual. Most people change from twins for simplification of the rats nest (reliability) and easier increases in power,  if you want truly streetable, stick with your twins, they get good hp :)

A perfect example for you though
 
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77604

lucus walker

Quote from: gav240z;841467@jetpilot I\'m not trying to provoke anyone here but where do I find a good single turbo FD for 4k?
hi gav i got  393 fwhp from my twins @1bar,  mods i did to achieve this:   feed 80mm exhaust from turbo back,  apexi gt fmic intercooler handles over 600 bhp, 60mm rad,  std prime, 1680 sec inj, kg parts rail, aeromotive fpr, bosch 044, swirl pot, twin power amp, apexi power fc, orc single plate clutch.

SpAm@FC

Quote from: jetpilot;841466Not at all buddy, i love my single turbo, i loved my twin turbo when i had that.

I have a very nice journal bearing turbo with cast manifold and hks wastegate, just so you dont have to presume.

Just trying to clarify whether you are selling new parts with warranty or used, so thanks for clarifying they are 2nd hand as they dont come with warranty.

Glwts :)

I just wanted to clarify that I\'m not the producer of those turbos, therefore I can\'t give warranty ;) I just can guarantee that they are genuine,  never used and original packaged :)

gav240z

Quote from: lucus walker;841475hi gav i got  393 fwhp from my twins @1bar,  mods i did to achieve this:   feed 80mm exhaust from turbo back,  apexi gt fmic intercooler handles over 600 bhp, 60mm rad,  std prime, 1680 sec inj, kg parts rail, aeromotive fpr, bosch 044, swirl pot, twin power amp, apexi power fc, orc single plate clutch.

Good to know mate, I replied to a thread about this yesterday.

http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77789

Looks like I almost have all the parts required...

gav240z

Quote from: jetpilot;841471There are quite a few, but depends on your definition of good, at that price they will need some attention, whether that\'s bodywork or some fettling to get the most out of the single, fuelling mods, intercooler perhaps. I  bought mine for a bit over £4k.

There have been two very nice streetable turbo kits sell recently, at a grand ish and also new ones available for just over £2k from a well respected advertiser on here.

The talk of streetable is an argument in itself, define steetable, its individual. Most people change from twins for simplification of the rats nest (reliability) and easier increases in power,  if you want truly streetable, stick with your twins, they get good hp :)

A perfect example for you though
 
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77604

Yeah I saw that and was tempted alright. The parts alone are more than the sum of that price. Problem is it just needs that bit extra to finish it off and for me that makes it an unknown quantity.

For me to buy that car

4k asking price
+ 1K to register on Irish roads + road tax (130 p/year)
+ 1K (rough estimate to finish off and get professionally tuned - maybe new wastegate?)

Then the bodywork...
It looks a bit rough alright, being a UK car worries me a little with regard to rust..

A couple more thousand to get repainted...

So really it\'s a 7-8K car at best - maybe more if it\'s been sitting in terms of brakes suspension etc...

jetpilot

Quote from: gav240z;841511So really it\'s a 7-8K car at best - maybe more if it\'s been sitting in terms of brakes suspension etc...

Well for sure, what do you expect for £4k :Giggle I was only making a point that you can buy a complete good single turbo (i.e steetable and well proven actual turbo) car in reference to bold claims a single turbo kit will cost £4k.

DC-TYPER

im yet to see a modified rex i like. keep them the way they are
 
dc