Water change?

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Big Al

Hi,
 
I just noticed from a welcome message that Mir made today,  that a regular water change is beneficial for our lovely rotaries. I know about topping up with distilled water but not much more.
So I\'d really appreciate any guidance regarding water change frequency and where to find the drain plug??
 
Cheers, Al.


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one drain plug in the bottom of your Rad and the other should be in the side on the engine, i believe its somewhare hear where the sump plug is... though i may be wrong about the exact location of the second. I am new to FD\'s had my 8 (FE) for a while now though
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Quote from: Big Al;832232Hi,
 
I just noticed from a welcome message that Mir made today,  that a regular water change is beneficial for our lovely rotaries. I know about topping up with distilled water but not much more.
So I\'d really appreciate any guidance regarding water change frequency and where to find the drain plug??
 
Cheers, Al.

Hi Mate

Indeed water change is beneficial. However, you don\'t change water as often as an oil. I read a thread by Aron Cake (American Engine Builder) and also read loads of info on Aussie Rotary site. If I am not mistaken, every 1 to 2 years water change is recommended. I don\'t have a clearly info to hand as I am chilling at the moment in my bed using my Ipad:):King, but certainly I can dig an info out for you. If, again, I am not mistaken, the conclusion of the water changing discussion I read were pointing towards the bad functioning of the properties in an old Radiator water, and how it affects the engines. So, in nutshell, it\'s the properties in the water which gives up with the passage of time and does not kill the heat efficiently.

I hope the info would help.

Cheers
Mir
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Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

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Quote from: Arnie_O;832233one drain plug in the bottom of your Rad and the other should be in the side on the engine, i believe its somewhare hear where the sump plug is... though i may be wrong about the exact location of the second. I am new to FD\'s had my 8 (FE) for a while now though

The other water drainage plug is on the side of the engine near the spark plug area. I don\'t have a 13b anymore but I am sure that the water drainage plug is on the plugs side of the engine-either in the intermediate iron plate or rear iron plate. You can\'t miss it if you look there carefully.

Cheers
Mir
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Love FDs. Currently own:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

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LOL .. yeah it does read a bit random in the middle of a thread


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Big Al

I agree with Grinder... I thought I\'d upset Rotormotor for a moment :confused:, until I read Bretts contribution.
 
Thanks to Arnie and Mir for the helpful info, looks like I\'ll be changing water and antifreeze soon :yes
 
Cheers Al.


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Mir

I have sent emails to a reputable Rotary Engine Builders arround the globe to ascertain a best possible answer for your question BigAl.

Here is the Answer of RotaryEvolution of Las Vegas


Quote:
Originally Posted by Syed
Hi There

I have a question for you. How often do you think we should change water in our beloved rotary engine. I read it somewhere that every 1 or 2 year water change is recommended.

Can you please enlighten me.

Thank you very much

Mir
From London UK

Answer from RotaryEvolution:

if the system hasn\'t been kept well in the past i would recommend once a year for a few years to get much of the junk out of the system. if it has been well maintained then i would recommend every other year to drain and refill it with 50/50 coolant/distilled water.

-Ben

Thanks
Mir

More answers will be added here for you BigAl :)
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

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Mir

Answer of ChipsMotorsports.


"If you are running straight water, every year.

Chip U"

Builder of the following project aka my dream project: http://www.rx7club.com/build-threads-292/my-never-ending-20b-ppt-t56-8-8-project-970923/

Cheers Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

Mir

Re: Question

Answer from Hayward Rotary:

It depends on the coolant as you can get 5 year or 2 year or 3 year.
We allways use the 5 year antifreeze as its top quality and also perfect for the mix of iron and ally in the engine.It shouldnt need changing for the 5 years really.

Regards
Carl
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

Big Al

Mir,
Thank you s much for all of the extra effort you put into answering my question. I found it all very interesting and I\'m sure others will have also done so.
 
Cheers
Al.


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Mir

Quote from: Big Al;832721Mir,
Thank you s much for all of the extra effort you put into answering my question. I found it all very interesting and I\'m sure others will have also done so.
 
Cheers
Al.

Not a problem mate :)

I am always here to help

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

Mir

Reply from Arron Cake

"There is a maintenance schedule in the FSM for the year of your vehicle. Every year seems excessive to me unless you store the car over the winter. Two years should be fine. 30/70 mix of ethylene glycol and water unless you see very cold temps in which case it should be 50/50."


Cheers
Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C