Just bought my first fd3s - chuffed

Started by roborangefd3s, June 06, 2012, 01:12:54 PM

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roborangefd3s

Quote from: lee mills;826750Perhaps its running way to rich hence poor fuel consumption and why it keeps flooding. (just a thought)

I know it has a fairly serious fuel system on it so yeh it could be over fueling I dont know, my understanding is that it has been worked on by hayward and mapped on surrey RR so hopefully all is in order, im going to leave it with HR for a bit,get it checked over and see if they can do anything to make it more numpty friendly in relation to the previously mentioned challenges.

batman

No hayward s worked on it hawards mapped it its not over fueling surrey rolling road only dyno tested it and they said it was running lean ! but that was probably down to a vacum pipe left undone its now replaced. like i said when you bought the car if you wanted to use it alot on the road ditch the race battery .
and yes everything is in order carl spent ages sorting that car and it was fine when i sold it !
REAL MEN PLAY WITH TWINS     :Laugh

roborangefd3s

Quote from: batman;826973No hayward s worked on it hawards mapped it its not over fueling surrey rolling road only dyno tested it and they said it was running lean ! but that was probably down to a vacum pipe left undone its now replaced. like i said when you bought the car if you wanted to use it alot on the road ditch the race battery .
and yes everything is in order carl spent ages sorting that car and it was fine when i sold it !

Thanks, I didnt see you having any starting problems with it which is why I think its my operation rather than a fault with the car - I am going to clean plugs and deflood this weekend and then try to avoid short slow journeys in future, will also try blipping the throttle before I cut it off, I would like to fit a fuel cut off and battery cut off switches to it, the battery will drain slightly as its stored during the week and the weaker charge gives you only 1-2 chances to get the start up right when I try and start it at the weekend. I really dont want to fit a standard battery in the back, might just have to dig deep and get one of those really expensive race battery`s. Regarding the fuel use, I dont know whats right and whats wrong with these cars, 150 miles on a tank seems pretty serious but then I was going fast the whole way, that sort of consumption is going to see the car staying in the garage more though which is a shame.

roborangefd3s

started trying to deflood it today, it wont so much as cough with a fresh charged batter so clearly flooded, removed EGI and cranked sooooo many times now so I started the process to remove the plugs today, took me a few hours to get the strutt brace off as it wouldnt come loose without the car being jacked up, had to mess around at the local tip getting planks/boards cos I couldnt slide a jack under the car and took me a long time to push the car up onto 1 inch thick boards - jack slid under, took the weight off the front wheels and the brace came off (its a tight fit on the coilover top mount bolts) - got the intake off and got my first look at the plugs, took about three hours to get to this point and I didnt like the look of all the stuff on top of the plugs so I called it a day and will have to resume the work in two weeks time when I next have a saturday off, considering the plugs need to come out regularly they could have made them a bit easier to get to, hopefully once I can get the rest of the stuff off I can get the plugs out, turn it over and hopefully it will start, saw this guide which was pretty usefull, could see a how to remove plugs guide on MRC http://www.fd3s.net/ignition_install.html

TRIND-FD

Dont leave it flooded.  Get the plugs out and also I would get
Edd rx7 parts to come to you and carry out a compression test.
This would eliminate poor compression causing flooding issues
V8 fd\'s rock :cool

roborangefd3s

Quote from: TRIND-FD;827218Dont leave it flooded.  Get the plugs out and also I would get
Edd rx7 parts to come to you and carry out a compression test.
This would eliminate poor compression causing flooding issues

thanks, i thought comp tests were usually for old worn engines? this one is new so compression should be fine no? thanks

lee mills

not neccesarily. New engines can sometimes have poor compression.

roborangefd3s

Quote from: lee mills;827222not neccesarily. New engines can sometimes have poor compression.

ok, i will ask carl at hayward if this is the problem if thats what you think, thanks

lee mills

Not saying thats the problem just letting you know that poor compression isnt always just for old engines.
I think the point that he was trying to make is that regular flooding can be a sign of poor compression so a test would either rule it in or out, ie just trying to help with ideas:Thumbs-up

TRIND-FD

^^^^^^^^ as lee said.  It\'s a cheap elimination, independent test.
V8 fd\'s rock :cool

roborangefd3s

Quote from: TRIND-FD;827225^^^^^^^^ as lee said.  It\'s a cheap elimination, independent test.

ok thanks, ideas are appreciated - would a comp test be high up on the list of stuff to check for a flooded engine? i should turn it over with the plugs out first right? surely a comp test on an engine i know to have been recently built by a reputable builder would come after the first steps such as plugs out, oil in plug holes etc? thanks for your help, if you think a comp test is the next thing i should try after cranking with egi removed then please let me know, thanks.

davehg

I have a genuine Mazda rotary compression tester and can test it for you if you like
There are performance cars and then there is the RX-7...........

12.3 second 1/4 mile, terminal speed of 122mph (1st ever drag run on a TO4R)

engine built by....... umm me! now powered by a T51 Kai......

roborangefd3s

Quote from: davehg;827233I have a genuine Mazda rotary compression tester and can test it for you if you like

very kind of you, thanks alot - think i will try with plugs out first and then start comp test, from what i have read it seems plugs out would be the next step.

will let you know if i need to borrow it if/when it doesnt start after turning over with plugs out, thanks

lee mills

I think your missing the point a bit (meant in a nice way:o)
Taking the plugs out etc will deflood the car but isnt solving why the car keeps flooding.
My guess judging by what youve written is that your map is to rich, obviously that,s assuming that your compression results are ok.

roborangefd3s

Quote from: lee mills;827235I think your missing the point a bit (meant in a nice way:o)
Taking the plugs out etc will deflood the car but isnt solving why the car keeps flooding.
My guess judging by what youve written is that your map is to rich, obviously that,s assuming that your compression results are ok.

sorry just a little confused, it has flooded twice - several short/slow journeys are to blame i beleive as this was the pattern of driving prior to the breakdowns,  have spoken with carl hayward last week who built and mapped the car last and he says it has no problems, i dont want to ignore this advice and spend lots of time looking for possible engine problems that according to carl and previous owner do not exist if its simply a case of user error related flooding which could be fixed by the normal deflood process, thanks