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Carl · July 07, 2004, 10:33:07 AM

Hi Rich,
Clives has been running for quite a while but not yet mapped.Should be fairly soon though.
Gary\'s is being rebuilt.Not sure when it will be up and running yet.
I thought that the GT35 was mapped at CPL and it was jumping on the rollers over 300hp?That was just before the santa pod runs?
Tim will be up there this Saturday to arrest the times back from Geff and Ross.He has a new secret weapon that I have supplied to him!!!
Should prove interesting!
Kind regards
Carl

20B_boy · July 07, 2004, 11:15:21 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Carl
I thought that the GT35 was mapped at CPL and it was jumping on the rollers over 300hp?That was just before the santa pod runs?

You should know by now that we all ever only get half the story Carl

Max bought the car up as Geff was driving a big supra he had to tune. The car was spinning the wheels on the dyno, combo of crappy tyres (had swapped off the D01Js) and the fact that they couldnt tie it down any tighter to compensate as the rear diffuser was getting torn up. Max had to leave at midday (with car) so there wasnt time to remove it and try tuning again tune. So the map was just gaffed slightly for safety as far as I\'m aware. Hard to tune properly if its slipping at only 300atw and it made 430 on the smaller turbo, eh?

QuoteTim will be up there this Saturday to arrest the times back from Geff and Ross.He has a new secret weapon that I have supplied to him!!!?

Tim was at the garage last week picking up/dropping off stuff. His car actually sounds like its fast now he\'s got a big exhuast on it

He was on about a few things he would be trying to alter some \'components\' of his runs...

yonner · July 07, 2004, 12:25:19 PM

has someone got a pic of a t04e manifold and downpipe gona see if it will be possible to make it

Carl · July 07, 2004, 12:29:06 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by 20B_boy
You should know by now that we all ever only get half the story Carl

Max bought the car up as Geff was driving a big supra he had to tune. The car was spinning the wheels on the dyno, combo of crappy tyres (had swapped off the D01Js) and the fact that they couldnt tie it down any tighter to compensate as the rear diffuser was getting torn up. Max had to leave at midday (with car) so there wasnt time to remove it and try tuning again tune. So the map was just gaffed slightly for safety as far as I\'m aware. Hard to tune properly if its slipping at only 300atw and it made 430 on the smaller turbo, eh?

Full story seems to match my version pretty well.I see no disparities.
Kind regards
Carl

20B_boy · July 07, 2004, 01:05:18 PM

OK, if \'mapped\' means tuned to 300hp then there are no disparities. If you stopped mapping an intended 500hp car at 300hp would that be mapped? I think \'no\', thats what i was trying to convey. As usual tho quite badly I expect! Apologies.

I said it hadnt been tuned, just the bentley map bodged. Thats what happened, slipping on the rollers meant tuning couldnt be under taken so the map was \'safened up\' by throwing a bit more fuel in across the board. I guess it worked well enough for Pod as the engine still felt new on the way back and whilst I had it a couple of days afterward, no mean feat after what must be 30+ 1/4 runs easily - and thats including seeing \'some\' boost and some high RPMs at times

You said \'it was mapped at CPL\' as if you were under the impression that it had been \'properly\' mapped like it was when it was tuned with the other turbo. It wasnt.

Sorry for the confusion.

Whats the spec on Clive\'s now btw? When I gave you a lift back from Shakespeare you said you would be shooting for 500atw\'s - that still the plan? I\'m interested to see just how these 35 and 42R\'s shape up. I\'m intrigued to see what the 35/40 can make on a 13B. I\'ve heard acouple of complaints on the NZ list regarding back pressure and dead engines on much over 400rwhp. I cant see that myself at the moment but I dont suppose tehre are that many setups about to find out atm...keep us posted please?

Carl · July 07, 2004, 01:25:37 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by 20B_boy

You said \'it was mapped at CPL\' as if you were under the impression that it had been \'properly\' mapped like it was when it was tuned with the other turbo. It wasnt.

Whats the spec on Clive\'s now btw? When I gave you a lift back from Shakespeare you said you would be shooting for 500atw\'s - that still the plan? I\'m interested to see just how these 35 and 42R\'s shape up. I\'m intrigued to see what the 35/40 can make on a 13B. I\'ve heard acouple of complaints on the NZ list regarding back pressure and dead engines on much over 400rwhp. I cant see that myself at the moment but I dont suppose tehre are that many setups about to find out atm...keep us posted please?

If Geff had not mapped it properly on either combo then that is not good.It is a waste of time and effort putting all of the right bits on a car and not mapping it properly.Lets hope that Geff gets some time soon to be able to map it and then go for the 10 second 1/4 that he said he will do in it.

I don\'t mean that it wasn\'t mapped properly,just that as most tuners know,a different turbo needs remapping due to it\'s different spec and airflow charecteristics.Apologies if it was misunderstood.

Clives is ported,dowelled,ceramic apex seals,and quite a few secret mods on top of that.We will look for some high power soon.
At the moment it is just about run in.looking for a high 15 second at first!!!!
Kind regards
Carl

Archbish · July 07, 2004, 01:31:15 PM

did you go for the paper mache rotors for the light weight? and using the MFI wooden dowels for lightness. Also, removing the liquid coolant, and using a helium derivatie should help keep the system running cool...

20B_boy · July 07, 2004, 01:33:07 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Carl
and quite a few secret mods on top of that.We will look for some high power soon.

How soon?

We have no patience here

Well I dont any way, its all used up on other \'projects\' :rollin

Carl · July 07, 2004, 01:35:06 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by 20B_boy
How soon? We have no patience here Well I dont any way, its all used up on other \'projects\' :rollin

I think we have another kind though,that is Patients!!The nutcase variety!
I should know.LOL!
Kind regards
Carl

Carl · July 07, 2004, 01:36:45 PM

Clives should be 500hp flywheel.
Kind regards
Carl

scooby_si · July 07, 2004, 06:19:26 PM

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maximtaylor · July 07, 2004, 10:51:06 PM

Don\'t forget the new porting technique as discussed the other day OJ

Still can\'t find a spyrograph set in the shops

Max

QuoteOriginally posted by Archbish
did you go for the paper mache rotors for the light weight? and using the MFI wooden dowels for lightness. Also, removing the liquid coolant, and using a helium derivatie should help keep the system running cool...

bnaellis · July 07, 2004, 11:04:57 PM

This forum makes some neat entertainment at times:)

antnicuk · July 07, 2004, 11:06:42 PM

talking of turbos, whats a T88 22b like on a streetported 13B, I have a new one and i\'m not sure wether to keep it or sell it. My TO4b wont produce more than 15psi, and i have to keep upwith max:D

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