New MoT test and cats

Started by no_boingers, December 16, 2011, 08:57:53 AM

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BlitzBoy

Quote from: no_boingers;802801:) I\'m not talking \'bout emissions, I\'m talking about the presence of a cat. You gonna draw one on the floorpan? :D

the cars are grey imports therefore there is nothing on the database proving/saying they were fitted with cats from the factory as original equipment.
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m1tch

Its one of the reasons why I chose an FC, its a 91 so no real issues with emissions etc, mine hasn\'t had a cat for over a decade! Didn\'t have one when I bought it either, emissions are 0.18% CO, so can pass a cat test!

Cat reinstalled


wolfie1

yes its true about needing an mot for the test if 1 was fitted as oe equipment but its not getting implemented until later on in the year, it is going to be an advisory item to allow testers to get used to the idea from jan.
there is another new rule coming in which sucks, see if you have a rubber boot covering a ball joint say as on a track rod end if its split its an mot fail even if there is no play......... how rubbish is that!

Prof

Emissions tests - Exhaust - from dft.gov site:
 
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/In%20Service%20Exhaust%20Emission%20Standards%20-%2016th%20Edition.pdf
 
See this section:
 
Some passenger cars first used during the [/FONT]“transition” [/FONT]period (i.e. 1 August 1992 to 1
August 1995) and some light goods vehicles and large passenger cars first used on
or after 1 August 1994 were not required to be manufactured to the EC standards
requiring advanced emissions control systems to be fitted. For these vehicles the
non-catalyst test will be applied. Owners of vehicles which were first used during this
transition period, are advised to check the entries in the Annex to this booklet or
contact the vehicle manufacturer
 
 
Page 58 is quite interesting though ;)
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787b

Quote from: m1tch;802874Its one of the reasons why I chose an FC, its a 91 so no real issues with emissions etc, mine hasn\'t had a cat for over a decade! Didn\'t have one when I bought it either, emissions are 0.18% CO, so can pass a cat test!

Cat reinstalled


lol:Giggle

m1tch

Its why you get quite a bit of power back when you decat the exhaust system, thats quite a restriction!

wolfie1

i actually caught my cat the other day with his head inside the exhaust of my rx7

m1tch

ive never seen in an OEM FC exhaust in real life yet, seen a video of what one looks and sounds like on youtube lol my FC with just the air pump can pass the cat emissions test :)

no_boingers

Quote from: Prof;802883Page 58 is quite interesting though ;)
Exactly.  If your vin number contains FD13B2 then you are subject to a cat emissions test (and therefore have to have a cat present post 1/1/12).

Ada7

You almost sound happy that you think all FD\'s will fail the MOT :confused:

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no_boingers

noooo, don\'t want that at all :(  Just want to give people a heads up before their cars start getting VT30 notices, and they start crying about how they didn\'t know about it or "my car\'s exempt cos I think it is" etc.

Just \'cos you\'ve got away without a cat emissions test in the past I think you should be concerned about this new EU legislation and whether it will be so easy to get away without actually having a cat fitted (or something that looks like a cat ;) ).  I foresee a lot of exhaust swapping at MoT time coming up... ;)



Mind you, FCs ARE better than FDs :duck:
(But then I also think S2 FBs are better than FCs!)

wolfie1

i am an mot tester and i think all these new rules are a crock os :censored::censored::censored::censored:! sorry for being explicit but i need to be just to emphasis how i trully feel about it!

no_boingers

Totally agree with you wolfie1. All it\'s going to do it whack the price of getting a ticket even higher, which is even more galling when all my cars are over 20 years old and all this new sh*t isn\'t even fitted, yet I still have to pay the higher price.

Just one more way that the govt are surreptitiously getting all cars over 10 y.o. off the road and forcing us to buy new sh*te.

wolfie1

there is talk of brand new cars first mot after 4 years then every second year for its mot after that and vosa are arguing that will be dangerous, well i reckon with this extremely tight legislation will just push the government to introduce the 4,2,2 testing, the exact thing vosa doesnt want to happen

m1tch

My electric secondary air pump is on the way to me :)