Mulling This Over In My Head... 26b

Started by - Fezcat -, September 19, 2011, 05:51:40 AM

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berniec

one more thing for ya dude. learn to weld and fab metal. if you can learn the basics in your spare time then it will cut costs as to what you can do yourself when modifying the shell/firewall to get the engine in.

then anything your unsure of being structurally unsound all you need to do is post a few pics and ask advice.

- Fezcat -

Welding is on my list of things to get better at - right now my welds look like solid chickenpoop mixed with entrails.

Mir

Fezcat mate Thumbs up and you should do it. Its going to be a fun and I am sure you would enjoy it a-lot. I wish I had known your plans in advance, I would have helped you a-lot with parts :(. I would like to suggest that your plans are realistic and you can get what you want out of your four rotor. However, as Adam suggested, speak with Pip, he is only ONE in the UK who built four rotor engine and actually "got it work perfectly". The guy he did the work for is known here as Jantore (If I am not mistaken, he actually drove his 4 Rotor Fd back from Pip\'s garage to Norway).

Do it!!

Wishing you luck with your adventure (you never know, I may join you half way loll)

Cheers
Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

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Lacey

Quote from: Mir;789181Fezcat mate Thumbs up and you should do it.

Even Mir thinks it\'s a good idea. GO GO GO :Laugh
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- Fezcat -

You\'re actually insatiable, like that little creature on my right shoulder dressed like an angel, only what it doesnt realise is I saw the red underneath its gown lol!

Mir - thanks dude :) It would be cool to do it, I guess people in the US do it so why cant we? lol

Anyway - more homework to be done still methinks :)

Mir

Quote from: - Fezcat -;789228Mir - thanks dude :) It would be cool to do it, I guess people in the US do it so why cant we? lol

Off-course mate. Why not! I always loved 4 Rotor with twin turbo-daily driver :eek:. In Australia there is only one guy who is running a four Rotor twin turbo as a daily driver. He is on a Motec Forum and I did speak with him once.

I can\'t see what would stop you from achieving your aim?? But, I would "suggest" speak with Pip on this subject before you go outright on this. The man knows his stuff but the only problem with Pip is that he is very very very Busy man :Ladys-man

Let me know if you need any help. I will be sending some housings next week for PP modification. So, if you need info regarding them, just PM me.

Best of Luck mate

Mir
I am building a Genuine Fastest Street Rotary!
No Cutting and No Removals
Love FDs. Currently own:
20b-Triple Rotor,Single turbo FD
13B- Two Rotor, 2000spec on Stock Twins-FD
13B- Two Rotor, Single Turbo FD
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngone 
It takes some money for engineering a proper 20b

My C

- Fezcat -

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Cheers dude :) If/when you get them done, I wonder If I could sneakily take some measurements ;) Then Id be able to have a go with my friend and DIY our own :D

As I said, got some more homework and a load of research to do before I spend any money, I want to be able to put a price on the cost for milling the E-Shaft and doing our own housings at least before I put big money down.

Oh and its definitely going to be N/A :) I would be MORE than happy with 500bhp, i know you\'re after 1000bhp but thats waaaaaay too much for me :D 500bhp in a car that weighs relatively little (id want to lighten the shell) for about ~400bhp/ton +
 
Muahahahah my ridiculously circuitous plan is one quarter complete :D

Grant Monkhouse

Read this, homemade 4 rotor built engine going in a Volvo.

http://www.ausrotary.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=188420

I honestly think it would be more cost effective time reduced to buy the 4rotor shaft kit from NZ or US. They are a short rotor kit using normal centre plates as opposed to using 2 thick 20b centre plates like the Mazda 787b engine used.

Read the thread in the link and see what you think, that guy us awesome in design and has all ready built his e shaft!!

RamoNZ

Quote from: Lacey;789103which I doubt you would be able to do on a 4rotor without running intensely and dangerously on the lean side of mixture for idle....

Hahahaha - I love it - \'Dangerously lean idle\'! wtf crack have you been smokin?

This cracks me up - old Fezcat is asking a serious question and the person posting the most replies knows the least about it!

Anyways, the Kiwi\'s beat you to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZQX2tzNhI

Buy this car - it is for sale at the moment - import it - job done.

- Fezcat -

Ramon :) Cheers dude, I appreciate lacey\'s posts actually, she\'s been good for bouncing ideas back in my head. Its often the questions asked by people who dont nessecarily know everything, that are the questions that need to be asked :)

Grant - Ill have a peer dude :)

The kiwi shaft kit looks like it would be about £6k landed/tax paid/to my doorstep - If we can do our own similar shaft for less than that, hence why I want to be able to put a price on it before any money is put in.

Again - Not definitely doing anything, just throwing about the pro\'s and cons about in my head while bouncing ideas and opinions off one another :)

Grant Monkhouse

Quote from: RamoNZ;789241Hahahaha - I love it - \'Dangerously lean idle\'! wtf crack have you been smokin?

This cracks me up - old Fezcat is asking a serious question and the person posting the most replies knows the least about it!

Anyways, the Kiwi\'s beat you to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsZQX2tzNhI

Buy this car - it is for sale at the moment - import it - job done.

Is that the FOURRE rotor car?

Grant Monkhouse

I can find another 4 rotor thread from rx7 club too if you want? That build is full race car setup being built by a rotary garage rather than home made. Again using the \'short\' block method whereas tagheim has designed his copying mazdas design.

A 4 rotor can also be made by conjoined 13Bs, think of it as a big bang enine, wouldn\'t sound the same as the the lemans car though

RamoNZ

Quote from: Lacey;789150With the emissions you could always just have an air pump blow \'fresh\' air straight into the exhaust to screw with the burned mixture during MOT\'s and emissions tests, thus give the illusion of a cleaner burn that has more \'fresh\' air than fuel.....

This one is even better! Ha, I wish the car manufacturers had thought of that and I wouldn\'t have to pay so much company car tax - you\'d think with all that money and engineering resource they would have thought of that :2Confused

I think we should create a special section called \'Rotary mis-info and turd breath posts\' and make it members only so the poor general public wouldn\'t stumble across it.

I\'m going to leave this thread now but I\'ll keep my eyes peeled for actual build thread - that I would like to see. A 4 rotor anything would be awesome to see this side of the ocean.

- Fezcat -

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;789238Read this, homemade 4 rotor built engine going in a Volvo.

http://www.ausrotary.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=188420


That is awesome - I wonder if he would let me buy his design :D lol It would safe a :censored::censored::censored::censored:load of work lol!

Grant Monkhouse

RamoNz And if there was such a section, your post would have gone straight into it.:spank:reallymad:p:rollin:D:Nono!:Thumbs-up