think i am my have disturbed something!

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boosted

my car 93 jdm fd fresh 4 k motor non seq set up only running wg spring pressure 0.5 bar since build (warranty). Car running fine til mods.

I have just fitted front mount IC , new radiator and battery relocate to boot. Plan was then to fit ebc at 0.9 bar.:chat

however flooded her whilst bleedin rad. so fitted new 10 and 9 plugs with leads whilst sortin that out.

i removed the already fitted apexi air filters. to fit the rad and airfilter. I removed the throttle body to fit the new leads.
 

now i get massive cut out and bank fire when trying  to accelerate.... peak boost recorded on boost gauge 0.4 bar, more like 0.25 bar if flooring it. pressure tested ic and pipework and triple checked every coupler joint.....all ok. Not sure doing pressure test right as seems to just vent through the appexi\'s so blanked of and still no visible leak!

Cant hear the turbos either but tbh it cuts before i expected to hear them spool!
Cant think what i have done it\'s only an intercooler install......unsure if fuel cut or  massive boost leak. any help appreciate.

was gonna re-install stock ic and see out ?
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

boosted

92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

clive

This sounds like a boost cut, i.e the ecu is trying to protect the engine by cutting the engine.

When you say put the stock ECU on, yes do it to be safe then my advise would be to get the aftermarket ECU remapped if the car then runs OK

Hope this helps
All the best Clive

boosted

At present only got the stock ECU.  Car was running fine on standard IC cant see why i would be suffering boost/fuel cut now due to front mount install?
Only running the turbo out to waste gate ( 0.5 ) and have not seen boost above 0.4 !  it cuts just as it feels its about take  off ( if that makes sense). The boost pressure sensor is still connected but has no control over wastegate.

Can\'t see why it would be cutting now?

thanks for help.
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

rx7boy

One second, your running the car non sequential on the stock ecu??

If so, that will be your problem !
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boosted

It\'s ran for 4k like it?(stock ecu, non seq 0.5 bar )  No problems at all only fitted a front mount IC ? No intention of car becoming a money trap..........
is this not supposed to work?
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

clive

What ever you have done you have now got either more flow into the engine or out of it which is why you have got boost cut,

If you dont want to spend money , retrace your steps put the car back to how it was and away you go :Thumbs-up
All the best Clive

boosted

Thanks for all the help!  Gonna put standard IC back on make sure its back to normal and then do abit more research. The standard ic is about 1/5 the size of the 1 i fitted! Complete nightmare to do wish i\'d never bothered.....front bumper was fixed by self tappers by headlights! 7 hours to dremel off!
 Even on 0.5 bar car felt flippin quick ! ( owned a  r33 gtr & gts evo 8 scooby s14 s13 s12 ) and butt dyno quick as fq300 and gtr......just wanted more..... DOH!.
 the wifes gonna kill me if i mention ecu remaps and turbo conversions !

OK THANKS FOR YOUR ALL YOUR HELP.
Jon
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

boosted

Right feel a bit silly now. Messed up my AFR readings hence reason cut.
 
What are my choices? Ive come this far !
 
What sort of costs are involved for remap? Can my stock ecu be used....?
 
Jon
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

clive

Once you revert back to how things were, all will be ok
All the best Clive

boosted

Well i returned everything back to normal....and still like hitting a wall at .4 bar. Mis fires and back fires......drives normal out of boost....Have i got a lead wrong? (new leads and plugs at same time).

Drove fine before.....getting quite frustrated now as spent the day putting it back to the standard IC !

Any lead diagrams? Had a google and could not find any?

any ideas.....?

Thanks Jon
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

davehg

im happy to take a look if you pop it over to mine but im only around tonight
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boosted

Hi mate, Could you pop out to your car and just tell me which lead goes where? ....paranoid i got a lead wrong now and just what to eliminate .

Big Thanks for the offer but on night shift tonight.

Jon
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

boosted

Right just checking all the basics......
Dont think i got lead wrong.....just want to eliminate.
 stood at left wing.  outer coil left to top spark left. inner coil left to bottom left spark. right coil inner to top right spark and right outer coil to bottom right spark.
 did not gap spark plugs as told don\'t need to? 9 and 10\'s ngk\'s L & T  
 turbos spooling fine just hits invisible wall and back fire ! WAS running sweet  before mod.....
Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Tick over is fine revs freely no misfire.

thanks Jon
92 FD rx7 Twins 13.5psi.  EX Track car
EAT SLEEP ROTOR REPEAT.

trotter

Has the MAP sensor popped off by any chance? The wee black box attached to the back of the upper inlet manifold.  If that\'s ruined  then it\'ll be burping and farting all over the place.

I don\'t think leads and plugs are your problem, otherwise it\'d be running rough all the time. In saying that however, you don\'t really need 9\'s and 10\'s unless you are running stupid power, i\'ve got 315bhp or so and still running 7\'s all round.

A remap session with Pip @ WGT (closest to you by miles) will set you back around £250

HTH

graeme
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