My FD 2jz swap :-)

[Anh]

Whats worse then sticking a V8 into a FD? yip sticking a 2JZ into it, I think I just threw up in my mouth, at least a LS V8 you have a chance of keeping a 50:50 weight distribution.

An LS1 is nearly as long as a 2JZ - weight difference is negligable when you factor in accessories and fluids.

50:50 weight distribution is a meaningless paradigm, and the worse thing than stating things well out of context is to .... on someone\'s bonfire with misinformation!

If someone one wants a 2JZ, let them!

[Recoy2k]

After buying a rolling shell I have spent the last few weeks researching engine conversions and have now narrowed it down to 2 viable inexpensive options (bearing in mind my neighbour is a toyota/lexus mechanic so getting some cheap work done one rebuild)

1, Toyota 1Jz engine, can be picked up for reasonable money, can produce high Hp figures easily and if you find one out of the right car they are hand built by Yamaha and fully forged from the factory also to fit this into the car all that is needed is for the rear half of the subframe to be removed and replaced with tubular steel a bit further back nothing major to any half decent fabricator.
2, Lexus/Toyota 1Uz Fe V8 this is a 4.0l V8 which if you get a 99 engine has vvti and 300 hp out of the box also with a few select modifications can easily hit 400hp with endless reliability. I have looked and you can get an engine and box for around £900 and have it fully forged for about the same again which would then be capable of 800hp.

I have been reading into this loads and neither is super easy but I will still end up with a 400+ bhp car that owes me less than 5k and I doubt very much i\'d be able to buy a working rotary car and hit those power figures for the same money.

Also when it comes to weight both of these conversions weigh LESS than the rotary in OEM form including gearbox

[BlitzBoy]

An LS1 is nearly as long as a 2JZ - weight difference is negligable when you factor in accessories and fluids.

50:50 weight distribution is a meaningless paradigm, and the worse thing than stating things well out of context is to .... on someone\'s bonfire with misinformation!

If someone one wants a 2JZ, let them!

anybody can do what they like with their cars I dont care it belongs to them , This is a public forum and I can say my opinion, so if I want to p*** on someones bonfire I can, its a rotary forum after all so expect to be flamed when doing a piston conversion.

The LS is all aluminium, the 2JZ has an ali head and an iron block , the LS1 NA is lighter then the 2JZ and does not have the weight of the turbo ancillaries as well, and it is shorter then the 2JZ, the 2JZ is also taller, so where is the misinformation??

And 50:50 is important if you like to go round corners fast and dont want to understeer and go straight ahead into a hedge at speed.

[Mir]

Easy Blitzen,,, today you are really in a mood.. I hope I don\'t bump into you today!!! joking!!

I agree with you!!

Mir

[jackaleks]

50:50 weight distribution is a meaningless paradigm, and the worse thing than stating things well out of context is to .... on someone\'s bonfire with misinformation!
 

 
yeah! you take that Enzo Ferrari! you\'ve been doing it wrong all this time!
 
 
the only reason i can think of for putting one of these engines in an FD is so that you can say "check out my fully sick JZ swap brah".
 
if you want affordable powers tune the rotary. if you want the same powers but with a bit more torque and reliability, put an LS in it (and get some pockets with a deep end).

[BlitzBoy]

yeah! you take that Enzo Ferrari! you\'ve been doing it wrong all this time!

Yeah Colin Chapman what do you know about handling, 50:50 weight distribution is a crock of sh it apparently hahahaha :p:Thumbsup! :flamed

[Mir]

Yeah Colin Chapman what do you know about handling, 50:50 weight distribution is a crock of sh it apparently hahahaha :p:Thumbsup! :flamed

Hahahah :rollin

[- Fezcat -]

I considered a 1jz swap until I realised all I wanted it for was hero points Also realised i only bought the damn car for saying - "yeh ive got a 1.3 but its as fast as a ferrari "

[Nik da Greek]

An LS1 is nearly as long as a 2JZ - weight difference is negligable when you factor in accessories and fluids.

50:50 weight distribution is a meaningless paradigm, and the worse thing than stating things well out of context is to .... on someone\'s bonfire with misinformation!

If someone one wants a 2JZ, let them!

This is simply plain wrong on every point except the last one, although even that might be more accurately phrased as "if someone wants to take a perfectly balanced sportscar with a unique engine and render it pointless and dull putting a boat anchor that cursed plenty of ersatz mass-market alleged sportsters then let them."

An LS1 is nowhere near as long as a 2JZ... fairly obviously by the width of two cylinders, in fact. They also weigh not too much different from a 2 rotor lump with all the manifolds and turbo plus ancilliaries, and thus considerably less than a 2JZ.

To state that balanced weight distribution is a meaningless paradigm shows at least respectable grasp of lanugage but extremely poor understanding of motor vehicle dynamics.

To be honest, if you want to make yourself look daft on the internet, could you not just post a video of youself on YouTube with your c0ck out like everyone else and leave us here on the Rotary forum alone? It\'d probably be better for all of us

[TiddlesRX7]

The above is why I really like this forum. Nik your a star mate!

[rwdwiganer]

I\'m only a couple of junctions up the M6 from you. Its surprising what you can do with the stock twins before they start to get iffy. A good setup with 350bhp on twins can give you huge pleasure !

These cars are so light and well balanced pub bhp figures aren\'t really needed as much. It only weighs 1250kg stock compared to 1600kg for a skyline !

Are you wanting it as a daily or weekend monster ?

Shaun

It\'s only going to be used as a weekend car tbh, my Skyline is 1370kg 2wd with just over 400hp atf... Looking for less weight and up to 600 hp atf with this project and it\'s something different! I\'ll be pressure testing the rotary at the weekend and putting the engine and box up for sale if anyone is interested?!... I don\'t hate rotary engines at all, but only bought the FD as they are much more rust resistant and lighter than the Nissans i\'m used to and one came up for sale! I wanted to tune a 2J for my RB25 replacement and could of put it in an S-body Nissan if they wern\'t so ....e :-) but got the car I wanted, even if what i\'m doing isn\'t to everyones taste...

[Mir]

Nik.... Go on mate.. Nice one!

Mir

[shaunwil]

It\'s only going to be used as a weekend car tbh, my Skyline is 1370kg 2wd with just over 400hp atf... Looking for less weight and up to 600 hp atf with this project and it\'s something different! I\'ll be pressure testing the rotary at the weekend and putting the engine and box up for sale if anyone is interested?!... I don\'t hate rotary engines at all, but only bought the FD as they are much more rust resistant and lighter than the Nissans i\'m used to and one came up for sale! I wanted to tune a 2J for my RB25 replacement and could of put it in an S-body Nissan if they wern\'t so ....e :-) but got the car I wanted, even if what i\'m doing isn\'t to everyones taste...

Its your car and your choice what you do with it. When I stuck LPG on the FB I didn\'t get completely positive replies !

Definitely will be an interesting project for sure !

Shaun

[merlin2002]

I will keep an eye on this as I was thinking of something down the same route!
 Shame the wrx engine is too wide for engine bay...short low engine
Rob

[Lil-Steve]

Someone should tell Ferrari they\'re doing it wrong :Giggle
 
Enzo Ferrari weigh dist.  43.9/56.1
458 Itallia weigh dist.    42/58
 
But I digest....
 
I think you should stick with the 2JZ it\'s different at least, just no more V8\'s.
 
And please for the love of all that is god and holy deffiniatly no flat four Sub(standard)aru engine, wait I think I\'ve just been sick in my mouth :2Rolleyes