\'Wing\' Mirrors?

[Nik da Greek]

lol, It\'s not theft if it\'s freely given. :confused:

[Ada7]

Boot.. Trunk. Hood... Bonnet, ahh lets call the whole thing off. :p
But seriously, your bothered that wing mirrors are called that when they\'re not on the wings. Think you\'ve got to much spare time to think :rollin

Adam

[Nik da Greek]

I think it\'s a fascinating metaphysical conundrum, actually. Is something defined by what it\'s called, does its function define its name, or is it the other way round? So, if you were to mount an actual wing mirror, for example from a Morris Marina (*cough*) to the door of a different car, would it then become a door mirror, despite having a microfiche part number that calls it a wing mirror somewhere in the dungeons of British Leyland? (OK, probably not a microfiche, probably a note scrawled on the back of a fag packet or beer mat, but the idea holds true.)

Is it then defined by its purpose, or is its identity constant no matter what role it performs. If you used it to shave in, would it still be a wing mirrror? Where does it leave us if this isn\'t the case? If you drive buses for a living, are you only a bus driver only whilst actually driving a bus? If so, what do you become when you walk home? If you\'re a parent, do you cease being a father or mother as soon as you put your baby down to sleep?

This of course leads on to lots of other imponderables that have kept philosophers busy since time immemorial (many of whom of course were utter layabouts with far too much time to moon about thinking of pointless idioms to annoy other people with). Like, if you can only see a star when the light from it shines on something, does it not exist the rest of the time? Does a tree falling unobserved in a forest still make a sound? And how is it that MASH lasted eight times longer than the actual Korean War?

[Ada7]

Why do hot dogs come in packs of 10 when the buns come in packs of 12s?
Whys it called a television set when there\'s only 1 on them?

As for the tree falling. Yes it does make a sound. But then a sounds can only be called that if it heard :confused:

Maybe i\'ve got to much time on my hands to :rollin

Adam

[Nik da Greek]

It moves air in a way that correlates to what we interpret as sound waves. But is it a sound if it isn\'t heard? And of course, you can\'t actually prove it even makes sound waves, according to Heisenberg\'s Uncertainty Principle that by measuring something you also change it.

the time is later than you think

[Ada7]

If olive oil is made from olives, vegetable oil made form vegetables... what about baby oil

Adam

[Nik da Greek]

I\'m not sure if that one actually works :confused:. If it did, Mars bars would have to be made from Mars, and that would be very unpalatable. And expensive. Fduk alone knows what Snickers would be made of .

That\'s the same argument as all herring are fish, therefore all fish are herring. It seems logical at first glance, but is, of course, poo :rollin

[jackaleks]

It moves air in a way that correlates to what we interpret as sound waves. But is it a sound if it isn\'t heard? And of course, you can\'t actually prove it even makes sound waves, according to Heisenberg\'s Uncertainty Principle that by measuring something you also change it.

the time is later than you think

ooh, i know this one...

\'sound\' is what happens between our inner ear and our brains, it\'s purely perceptual, everything up until that point is just various bits of matter vibrating.

so, if nobody is there to hear it then it doesn\'t make a sound!

[Nik da Greek]

So by the same argument, time is just as irrelevant. If sound is only what we call something that happens all the time at the point that it affects us directly, then time can be considered similar? Since it\'s merely an arbitrary value that we apportion to the fact that everything in the universe moves irreversibly towards greater entropy (according to Hawking, anyway), then it actually means nothing because it\'s purely a construct of human definition?

So, it doesn\'t matter if I turn up an hour late to work tomorrow, yeah, so long as I don\'t look at my watch between now and then?

[AMH]

I may unsubscribe from this thread - way too random! :Giggle

[Ada7]

You lost me somewhere between .... oh look a puppy!

Adam

[Nik da Greek]

Where :3Confused? Ooooh, I loooooove puppies Love their pink snuffly noses........

[Ada7]

..... tickle his chin, tickle tickle.... bored now.
Where\'s the sandpit

Adam

[Nik da Greek]

Where\'s the sandpit

Adam

Is that a euphemism for something? I prefer messing around in the council gritter, meself :Giggle

[Ada7]

Sorry, i was told not to talk to strangers. MUUUMMMMM!!!!!

Adam