"KIMI" - The RPM 1st Gen S2 (with bits of S3...)

[David Nock (RIP)]

Yep S1, should be same fit for S2? Same tyre size?.....Don\'t know my S1 facts properly, sorry.

I would guess they\'ll look brilliant on the car.

[shaunwil]

Thx Shaun - I think we\'ll work up slowly to overtaking manoeuvres then. We\'ll have to remember we are driving Mazdas, but not RX-8\'s :Laugh

It doesn\'t weigh as much as the rx8 so you will be surprised at just how well it goes

They can be a handful

Shaun

[Casey]

^^ Ah, thankyou, syebba & Dave.

So, if we put those on the car we\'ll have a S1/S2/S3 hybrid :Giggle

Either that, or we sell them to pay towards a refurb of the S2 rims! Having said that, I think a couple of the S2 rims might have gone too far to save....

We have also acquired a set of 4+1 (the fifth one a different pattern) 15", 5 hole (S3?) rims with tyres, most of which have loads of tread. If there might be any interest in these I\'ll put up some pics.

[Casey]

It doesn\'t weigh as much as the rx8 so you will be surprised at just how well it goes

They can be a handful

Oooooh, sounds good, can\'t wait for first road outing

[Will66]

It weighs about 350kg less than the RX8.  But the RX8 has 228 bhp whereas the FB has 100 bhp, although I reckon this one will be quite lively with the tubular manifold, I think the emissions gear has been taken off the carb as there are a few vacuum ports that have been capped.

[Ian65]

interesting pictures... series 2 interior with series 3 front seats!
Are you going to return it to series 2 spec or leave it mix and match?
I think Cliff is selling a black series 2 interior, the correct colour for this car.
Those wheels are definitely series 1 alloys. Mazda factory fitted 2 types of wheel to the S1... a 5j x 13" steel and a 5.5j x 13" alloy  ... the alloy being the most common type.
The S2 was this wheel...



Both series 1 and series 2 wheels had a PCD of 110.0 and so are interchangable

The series 3 wheel, as seen in my avatar, was 14" and had a PCD 114.3 so won\'t swap with s1 and s2

All 3 series used 4 studs/nuts per wheel

I see your car has a Janspeed exhaust as well... I haven\'t seen one of those for years... a good mod for more HP they were back in the day!

[Casey]

...... Same tyre size?.....

What is the standard tyre size on the S2 rims? We seem to have 185/70 R13\'s at the moment. Does anyone run with other sizes? I\'m sure I\'ve read of 200/60\'s being used (2.2% speedo over-read), and 195/65\'s (0.91% speedo over-read).

As we may have to source new tyres, it\'ll come down more to price and availability (but none of us would dare opt for "budget" brands!)..

Any recommendations on tyres?

[Ian65]

availability will the deciding factor... wide 13" tyres like 205\'s are hard to get these days.
From the factory, the s2 was fitted with 185/70 HR13 tyres on 5.5J x13 wheels.
Aftermarket wheels are limited for s2\'ss due to the pcd and diameter of the wheels
There is a guy selling a set of Elford turbo sonic alloys, as fitted to the S2.... they are 6J x13 and will take 205/60 x 13\'s

[Casey]

interesting pictures... series 2 interior with series 3 front seats!
Are you going to return it to series 2 spec or leave it mix and match?

I suspect we\'ll just tidy it up as much as we can. Given it\'s an S3 bodyshell it\'ll be a tough job to go "pure S2" anyway.

Those wheels are definitely series 1 alloys..... 5.5j x 13" alloy  ... the alloy being the most common type!

Yep, seems you are all in agreement. They are marked "5.5J" so that clinches it. Reckon we\'ll clean those up and see what they look like on the car.

The series 3 wheel, as seen in my avatar, was 14" and had a PCD 114.3 so won\'t swap with s1 and s2

All 3 series used 4 studs/nuts per wheel

Ah, that\'s strange then, I\'ve just been and checked, we have a set of 4 matching wheels, with 205/60 R15 tyres, (plus one matching rim with no tyre) but they all have 5 stud fixing. The centre caps clearly say "Mazda", so where did they come from? We also have one different pattern wheel, identical size rim and tyre. There was also a bag of 16 wheelbolts, same bolt type as on the S2, but about 20mm (by eye) more thread.

Any idea where these wheels came from?

We have 5 rims like these;

[Ian65]

I suspect we\'ll just tidy it up as much as we can. Given it\'s an S3 bodyshell it\'ll be a tough job to go "pure S2" anyway.



Yep, seems you are all in agreement. They are marked "5.5J" so that clinches it. Reckon we\'ll clean those up and see what they look like on the car.



Ah, that\'s strange then, I\'ve just been and checked, we have a set of 4 matching wheels, with 205/60 R15 tyres, (plus one matching rim with no tyre) but they all have 5 stud fixing. The centre caps clearly say "Mazda", so where did they come from? We also have one different pattern wheel, identical size rim and tyre. There was also a bag of 16 wheelbolts, same bolt type as on the S2, but about 20mm (by eye) more thread.

Any idea where these wheels came from?

We have 5 rims like these;

they are 2nd generation (s4) alloys

[captainbizzaro]

I had a Janspeed on my first FB, it did make a big improvement on performance but I personally didn\'t like how it sounded.

[Casey]

they are 2nd generation (s4) alloys

:god Thankyou. Mystery as to what they are is now solved, but the mystery remains as to why John Odd, who only had an S2, was doing with them in his garage....I\'ll guess we\'ll never know that now, shame.

Maybe he had an idea to add bits of a S4 to the car; what with S1 rims, S2 running gear, S3 shell.......there\'s a pattern in here somewhere.....definately an "Odd" car..........

[Ian65]

I had a Janspeed on my first FB, it did make a big improvement on performance but I personally didn\'t like how it sounded.

my mate put one on his s3 back in the 80\'s when his factory system burnt out and the noise was terrible! It didn\'t half tranform the power of the car though.

[Ian65]

:god Thankyou. Mystery as to what they are is now solved, but the mystery remains as to why John Odd, who only had an S2, was doing with them in his garage....I\'ll guess we\'ll never know that now, shame.

Maybe he had an idea to add bits of a S4 to the car; what with S1 rims, S2 running gear, S3 shell.......there\'s a pattern in here somewhere.....definately an "Odd" car..........

it\'s certainly a puzzler... I would have thought he\'d have used the s3 running gear... the s3 has stronger suspension, bigger brakes, ventilated discs as standard... then again, he may as well have just bought a s3 if he was going to do that.. does the shell still have the s3 stamped in vin or did he change that over too?

[Casey]

Does anyone know where we can source the cover (inspection?) blanking plate (and the two fixing bolts) that attaches to the the rear of the engine housing (passenger side) and allows one to view the flywheel spinning? From memory, the plate would be roughly about 4"x1".

Dave Nock noted it was missing and it kinda worries my that something might drop down in there accidentally. Plus, I\'m pretty sure it is the source of a lot of blavck dust spread on the passenger side engine bay bodywork. Sean vacuumed a load of the stuff out yesterday....