Single Turbo Shopping List

[davefrith]

theres being sensible then theres throwing money away

the fact that you are thinking about it rather than doing it is a good start

[bnaellis]

Originally posted by MintyFresh
290-300 rwhp without upgrading fuelling?

I though the fuelling was one of the weakest links in the FD?

Definitely you would need a clutch for a single turbo, twin plate clutch are around the region of £1500 + fitting
fuelling is a must first. Sugar ray lenoard beat Marvin Hagler by fighting the first 8-9 rounds toe  to toe but it don\'t mean it was the crrect way to go about things, anyway back on track.
Add to your list ht leads, ignition amp, spark plugs, some essential electronic gauges if you don\'t already have them i.e water temp, oil etc etc etc a lot depends on what you want from the car and it\'s intended usage. A torque brace would be hand to stop those 3rd & 5th gear misshifts which will save your 3rd & 5th gear syncros, airpump removal new pulleys and belt. A serious amount of labour cost for fitting and setting everything up.
I know you love your car but it is considerbly cheaper to buy one already done and spend money on the bodykit & wheels of your choice.

rgds

[mr_tim]

Originally posted by MintyFresh
but i like what im reading about the Apexi kit.  Do the roller bearings on a GT35/40 help it spool up quicker?

Is this the RX6 kit? I liked the sound of that - quick spool  and flowing about as high as i\'d like to go. I heard the RX6 kit is no longer available though - and they\'re not rebuildable like the garrett ones.

I was planning on going single but to be honest I\'m pretty much happy with what I have. But if you take the twins as far as you can, as Dave says you\'ll have pretty much all you need apart from the single turbo kit and remap.

[bnaellis]

The only thing with twins is the inumerable boost issues you encounter when running higher than stock boost. Some are easy fixes some are a right pig to track and trace.

rgds

[mr_tim]

Originally posted by BNA_ELLIS
The only thing with twins is the inumerable boost issues you encounter when running higher than stock boost. Some are easy fixes some are a right pig to track and trace.

exactly - if you\'ve got everything in place already and the inclination, it is when issues such as these become apparent that i would go single.

[MintyFresh]

you\'ve given me a lot to think about, thanks for your opinions.

[kevint]

Originally posted by J4P RX
Standard car should be about 210-15 at the wheels.  Think thats about what Ben and Kevin got from theirs on the rollers.

About right Lee, I got 217 rwhp when car was stock, a little more than Ben\'s stock car. Before we went on the rollers Ben said "all I want to do is get a higher number than you",  bless him.

Kevin

[iaint]

Originally posted by Kevint
About right Lee, I got 217 rwhp when car was stock, a little more than Ben\'s stock car. Before we went on the rollers Ben said "all I want to do is get a higher number than you",  bless him.

Kevin

That comes under the \'Mastercard priceless\' category. lol.

Iain

[antnicuk]

Minty, have you had your engine rebuilt yet?
If not, my suggestion would be to get an ecu (apexi pfc) get bigger 2ndary injectors, bigger fuel pump, front mount intercooler, sort your exhaust out, have it mapped, raise the boost to 1 bar and drive it until it pops.  All these mods are faily easy and cheap to do, and you dont need to remove your engine to do them.  When it pops, have it rebuilt with a little porting exhaust and inlet, this will not effect your idle or driveablilty.  At the same time you can throw away all the solanoids and vacume pipes, have your single turbo fitted and your uprated clutch, (act street strip clutch in mine cost $450 and copes with my 360 rwhp.) That way you wont pay extra to have your single or clutch fitted as the engine will be out already. And everything else is already in place.  

i can understand why some of the guys love the stock twins, especially on the track but mine had twins on it and now has a to4E and i managed 2 seconds off the 1/4 mile with only 2psi of boost more. And the slight lag is more than made up for by the sheer power a single produces,  I took a friend at work out in mine, he has a skyline with a couple of mods, and he just laughed uncontollably and said it made his skyline feel like a 2CV.

Also as i did all the work myself, everything is so simple with a single on it and no boost problems.  

As for turbo, i would go for a GT35/40 or a GT40R, both are roller bearing and will spool almost as quick as stock twins and every body who is using them is getting at least 350rwhp. There must be a reason every one is using them.

Just my thoughts, i\'m sure some people will disagree

regards

tony

[sadgoth]

Just to throw a cat amongst the pidgeons (so to speak). Is it not possible to run a supercharger and turbo combination thereby overcoming the lag issue, then you could go a big as you wanted on the turbo side! I know this was don in the 80s on a Sierra XR4x4. I appreciate it would be very costly, but is it possible on a rotary engine?

[mr_tim]

Using nitrous lower down to counter the lag would be far simpler and cheaper

[davefrith]

but then we are back on the nitrous discussion !

:rollin

[Initial-D]

Hi ya guys! Dunno if anyone saw John Yorkes car in Banzai but that was apparently running 385 at the wheels on the stock twins. I\'ve been thinking about going down the single or upgrading the twins route too - so perhaps if we teamed up Minty we could ssave a few quid??

Another option would be to add more rotors!

Three or four! Dunno about how huge a dent that\'d cause in my bank account tho?

Cheers


Ben

[sadgoth]

ask Glenn how much his 4rotor is going to cost!

[Initial-D]

Maybe it was a bargin eh!?

Maybe when he gets bored of it he\'ll let me have it!

Cheers


Ben