V8 conversion....

Grant Monkhouse · December 30, 2010, 08:44:04 PM

Quote from: Rzla;734565Haha good good :Thumbsup!

I don\'t mind v8s... just buy a chevy if someone wants one, it has one in it already!

Would it be wrong then to put a rotor in a chevy? Or is it ok doing stuff that way? converting piston to rotor? but not rotor to piston?

a 3rotor turbo in a manaro? or maybe into a pontiac firebird? which i happen to have in the garden!

i think im getting carried away now,

Mir · December 30, 2010, 08:48:07 PM

No disrespect to anyone,, but love to race v8 with my 20b.. Wanna c how many car gaps do I give to it... V8 are viruses which have been downloaded into the rotary engines... This conversation makes me laugh.....go on mate it\'s ur money so do wat u have to do!!!

Grant Monkhouse · December 30, 2010, 08:53:26 PM

Quote from: Mir;734571No disrespect to anyone,, but love to race v8 with my 20b.. Wanna c how many car gaps do I give to it... V8 are viruses which have been downloaded into the rotary engines... This conversation makes me laugh.....go on mate it\'s ur money so do wat u have to do!!!

I know there would be no comparison in performance, but if a v8 had similar modifications to your 20b what would win?

eg, a turbo, 8,000rpm, big cam, lightened flywheel etc etc.

V8 would win hands down? but obviously the cost in developing the v8 with that spec would cost a lot more so comparisons where 2 cars have different specs would be pointless

johnf · December 30, 2010, 08:55:55 PM

Quotebut love to race v8 with my 20b.. Wanna c how many car gaps do I give to it

I have no issue with any of this but be aware there is a very nice 680bhp V8 FD [before the twin turbos were fitted] which you may surprise you.

Each to their own - I respect them both.

Mir · December 30, 2010, 09:03:38 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;734573I know there would be no comparison in performance, but if a v8 had similar modifications to your 20b what would win?

eg, a turbo, 8,000rpm, big cam, lightened flywheel etc etc.

V8 would win hands down? but obviously the cost in developing the v8 with that spec would cost a lot more so comparisons where 2 cars have different specs would be pointless

without prejudice

well I m sure even if all those mods u mentioned are done to the v8,, I seriously doubt that v8 would even come near to 20b..I m not exagerating.. But trust me once u own a race spec 20b which I had and currently being prepared for a 1000bhp launch at Wgt, u would c my point. I have driven v8 and owned one for 2 years.. I can live with fact that v8 "may be" reliably tuned compared with rotary but I m sorry can\'t accept that v8 would beat rotary... I wud love to b proved wrong but I m sure that wud need some time for piston to grow more...

Regards

Grant Monkhouse · December 30, 2010, 09:04:39 PM

Quote from: johnf;734575I have no issue with any of this but be aware there is a very nice 680bhp V8 FD [before the twin turbos were fitted] which you may surprise you.

Each to their own - I respect them both.

Really? where can i see this beast? is it the one that was in the general section a while ago? as i keep checking for it but no updates? twin gt35 IIRC?

I enjoy both rotaries and v8\'s as they both make awsome sounds (worlds apart though they are) but if any rotor ethusiast that can say they wouldnt have a smile in the corner of their mouth if they watched any main event at santa pod, bracket racers all the way to top fuellers, v8s sound good and the performance is insane!

Pau1 · December 30, 2010, 09:05:19 PM

There is a fair few V8 RX7\'s in the country and most of them get used properly on Track. I have one and love it to bits. If I was to do it again I\'d go for the newer LS3 engine over a LS1/2/6. I researched the conversion for a good while and had the engine before I had a chassis to put it in, the choice was either, Porsche 944 or 968 and the Mazda. The Mazda chassis was a better choice for me and I\'ve always loved the shape of the FD. I looked into all the conversion routes, Granny\'s and Hinson Kits but it was more cost effective and undoubtedly a better job to have it built for me by Craig Taylor ( tinker27 )

Good luck and keep us posted on how you get on.

Grant Monkhouse · December 30, 2010, 09:10:23 PM

Quote from: Mir;734576without prejudice

well I m sure even if all those mods u mentioned are done to the v8,, I seriously doubt that v8 would even come near to 20b..I m not exagerating.. But trust me once u own a race spec 20b which I had and currently being prepared for a 1000bhp launch at Wgt, u would c my point. I have driven v8 and owned one for 2 years.. I can live with fact that v8 "may be" reliably tuned compared with rotary but I m sorry can\'t accept that v8 would beat rotary... I wud love to b proved wrong but I m sure that wud need some time for piston to grow more...

Regards

i will look forward to your 1000hp 20b, maybe the first to reach that in the uk?

surely a race specced v8 would beat a race specced rotor?

rx7boy · December 30, 2010, 09:13:08 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;734579i will look forward to your 1000hp 20b, maybe the first to reach that in the uk?

surely a race specced v8 would beat a race specced rotor?

the Rotor did beat the piston and then all the boinger lovers threw their teddy out the pram and got the 787b banned from leMans :Viking

Rzla · December 30, 2010, 09:13:36 PM

Quote from: rx7boy;734580the Rotor did beat the piston and then all the boinger lovers threw their teddy out the pram and got the 787b banned from leMans :Viking

:flamed
:Thumbsup!
:WaveBye

Grant Monkhouse · December 30, 2010, 09:14:57 PM

Quote from: rx7boy;734580the Rotor did beat the piston and then all the boinger lovers threw their teddy out the pram and got the 787b banned from leMans :Viking

ha good point, i retract my statement and walk away with my head down in shame, how did i forget about that!!:Hammer:Hammer

Long live the 787B!!! Brap Brap Brap

Rzla · December 30, 2010, 09:14:59 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;734579i will look forward to your 1000hp 20b, maybe the first to reach that in the uk?

surely a race specced v8 would beat a race specced rotor?

And why do you think that sir?

Grant Monkhouse · December 30, 2010, 09:16:51 PM

well we have all had it now the damned oil burners are destroying all other cars out there.

Mir · December 30, 2010, 09:18:59 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;734579i will look forward to your 1000hp 20b, maybe the first to reach that in the uk?

surely a race specced v8 would beat a race specced rotor?

As said without prejudice

I hope u r right, but I m afraid that I m not convinced.. It has been mentioned that there is 680bhp v8 so let c if I ever had a race with her. My car need to come out for running in may b next week, I m running a smaller turbo to run it in and waiting for some cash to change my ecu from microtech to motec..if by that v8 680bhp was there I would love to test my car out with it-just c wat v8 would do with my 20b..
As I mentioned above in the first line I m doing this conversation not to cause anyone any offence, just airing my opinion...that\'s all really
hope no one is getting offended by my coments.
Regards

Grant Monkhouse · December 30, 2010, 09:20:24 PM

Quote from: Rzla;734583And why do you think that sir?

Well if we look at the peak performance of a rotor and a piston engine, we have the 787B in rotary corner and either a formual1 car or the audi lemans diesels in the other, which would win? these are the peaks of performance and the piston would win every time, if only rotaries had the same develpoment as what the piston engines have had instead of the aftermarket doing the development with little money.

V8 conversion....

Pau1