Newbi help... Secondary Fuel Rail Kit & 1000cc Injectors

[TomTom]

Heh, yes! Like every Rotary parts shop (You know who you are!) all prices are Ex VAT, Ex Delivery So £470 plus delivery.
 
Not knocking the kit though, I\'ve no first hand experience: prob not braided lines and AN fittings, but I could be wrong (and they are probably overkill anyway to be fair!) - you can deffo trust them as a shop though!

in description it does say "Braided fuel lines and fittings from secondary rail back to firewall included" :Thumbs-up
 
on my current standard injectors injector duty hits around 98% at 8000rpm.... not had any issues and had it mapped at reworx about 3-4 months ago but after reading the shock and horror in some of u guys replies ill be upgrading asap!

[TomTom]

http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65883
 
lol just found a thread on hear... this is the sard kit i was looking at but he has brought down his price a little now!

[paul3944]

Hi,

And thanks to all the responses above :confused:

I bought the rail from Clive (Mazdarotaryparts) still in its box just opened.

The Sard Injectors are still in there Boxes, So I would imagine these are slightly better than "second hand".

I bought the rail and Injectors to match a T04E, I was going to fit to the FD. But was offered a T04R at a price i could refuse.

The rail and injectors are perfect for a T04E or similar unit, but since I got the T04R, I had to change my plans hence the sale.

Take a look at this Sevens Sins FD with Sard Rail and Injectors-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I594HQCHgHc

Make your own mind up...

Regards,
Paul

[paul3944]

Too Add,

This is only the Secondary Rail which consists of -
1 x Rail
Fitting for either end of Rail (Banjo Adaptor)
Fuel Temp Sensor Adaptor.
Fuelt Temp Sensor Bung (If you wish to remove the Fuel Temp Sensor)
You will require a ACV Block off plate.

2 x Injectors with "new" Denso Injector clips to replace you old brittle ones.
I\'ll throw in the mixing plates from my FD that have to be modified as per the Sard Instructions.
I will also throw in some AN4 Braided hose if you like.

Regards,
Paul

[TomTom]

hi paul,
ur kit does look bloody lovely dont get me wrong.... but my concerns are that ill require alot of parts to complete the system, to which i wouldnt hav a clue where to start lol and will potentially bump up the price quite considerably.
 
the mazdarotaryparts kit has everything required, including frp, fuel lines, adapters and fittings back to the firewall! plusas it has 1680cc injectors it would not require me to run 850cc in the primay rail saving on the cost of that too!
 
i found this table on the linked site explaining the total flow to rwhp conversion! http://www.turborx7.com/fuelsystem.htm
 

Primary	Secondary	Total Flow (cc/min)	Appx. max RWHP @ 100% duty cycle	Appx. max RWHP @ 85% duty cycle
550	850	2800	360	305
850	850	3400	435	370
550	1200	3500	450	380
550	1300	3700	475	405
850	1200	4100	525	445
850	1300	4300	550	465
550	1600	4300	550	465

 
using this calculation with 1000cc secondary injectors id require 850cc primary injectors in order to get the total flow to 3700 which would just about give me the 400rwhp at 85% duty cycle im looking for! where as u can see the 550 and 1600 will cover it quite easily!
 
if im completely off the mark with the costing and caluculations here (which is quite possible) please do explain as i am new to this and ill put my hand up, im no mechanic!
 
cheers