Increase max steering angle?

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James H

I installed my dtss elimenators just last month, depends what you want out of your car but if your after a perdicable solid back end, then get shot of them!

yiug412

Quote from: James H;711580I installed my dtss elimenators just last month, depends what you want out of your car but if your after a perdicable solid back end, then get shot of them!

Is the car always in oversteer mode or understeer mode then?
1984 Honda Civic EF single carb 1.4
1989 Nissan Cefiro A31 RB20DE
1990 Toyota MR2 Turbo SW20 3SGTE
1990 Mazda RX7 TII FC3S 13BT
2004 Mazda RX8 231 SE3P RENESIS!
1974 Leyland Mini Mk3 1000
1994 Mazda MX5 1.8i BP
2003 Mazda RX8 231... something with turbo.
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dthebuk

ive got a prothane total kit that cost around £70 and covers the entire front of the car, want solid bush the rear though.

Personally i\'d delete the rear steer. Ive had two fc\'s with it, one which was tight and one which was loose. Tight one was fairly predictable but i found it to be unpredictable at high speed cornering, specially on the limit. Also the required steering input is very different depending on how much you\'re accelerating. The loose ones were a night mare. Though i found that with a welded diff, you can put alot of power down earlier in the corner. As for skidding with them, i just wouldn\'t bother, its hard to tell what the car is doing, and its hard to judge which way youre going to go when you regain grip.

With the rear steer eliminated the car is so much nicer, its more predictable and the rear end is solid. You can through it into a corner and only have to worry about understeer when you\'re going to fast.


Oversteer understeer is more down to you\'re tires and centre of gravity


\'91 FC TII - Drifter... Under construction :D
:burnout

yiug412

Thanks for the info dthebuk ! :)
 
as the FC is mainly for drift purpose i guess is good idea to get rid of it.
 
side question here. I\'m putting up my FC to 300hp and after calculation the fuel injectors will be on the limit. On the ebay is all from the states. Anywhere i can get aftermarket ones from UK? or will the FD 850 secondary fit on the FC secondary?
 
thanks
 
Louis
1984 Honda Civic EF single carb 1.4
1989 Nissan Cefiro A31 RB20DE
1990 Toyota MR2 Turbo SW20 3SGTE
1990 Mazda RX7 TII FC3S 13BT
2004 Mazda RX8 231 SE3P RENESIS!
1974 Leyland Mini Mk3 1000
1994 Mazda MX5 1.8i BP
2003 Mazda RX8 231... something with turbo.
Always put a smile on you when the \'beep\' goes on :chat

James H

QuoteWith the rear steer eliminated the car is so much nicer, its more  predictable and the rear end is solid. You can through it into a corner  and only have to worry about understeer when you\'re going to fast.


Oversteer understeer is more down to you\'re tires and centre of gravity
Would agree.... loose those rear steers!

dthebuk

if your\'re staying stock turbo. you dont NEED to change the injectors, though you have a pfc don\'t you? No idea about what fits, but im pretty sure you can just crank up the boost to 0.9 bar and it\'ll be fine. Just make sure both of your fuel filters are in good condition and that you have a map. Oh and you also might wanna rewire the fuel pump. Should be a write up on fc3s pro. Ive heard of people running more boost but there wasn\'t a massive advantage


\'91 FC TII - Drifter... Under construction :D
:burnout

yiug412

Yea I have seen people here making 300 without changing the fuel system from memory, correct? Yes i have a PFC, still need to sort out the faulty datalogit when im back from Shanghei tho.
 
I did some calculation I will need at least 600cc injectors each to make 300hp. altho thats for the piston engine and i assumed mine is a 2.6 litre in the formula. And on FCpro they said 250hp is max from the stock FC pump. definitly rewiring the fuel pump tho. If im sticking with stock injector I will give it a clean and flow test as well to be on the safe side. At the end my target is 300hp at flywheel. enough for a stripped out FC :)
 
soooo many confusion moving from piston to rotary :2Rolleyes slowly building up my knowledge.
 
thanks
 
Louis
 
Quote from: dthebuk;712117if your\'re staying stock turbo. you dont NEED to change the injectors, though you have a pfc don\'t you? No idea about what fits, but im pretty sure you can just crank up the boost to 0.9 bar and it\'ll be fine. Just make sure both of your fuel filters are in good condition and that you have a map. Oh and you also might wanna rewire the fuel pump. Should be a write up on fc3s pro. Ive heard of people running more boost but there wasn\'t a massive advantage
1984 Honda Civic EF single carb 1.4
1989 Nissan Cefiro A31 RB20DE
1990 Toyota MR2 Turbo SW20 3SGTE
1990 Mazda RX7 TII FC3S 13BT
2004 Mazda RX8 231 SE3P RENESIS!
1974 Leyland Mini Mk3 1000
1994 Mazda MX5 1.8i BP
2003 Mazda RX8 231... something with turbo.
Always put a smile on you when the \'beep\' goes on :chat

dthebuk

well you could uprate the fuel stuff for piece of mind but it isn\'t fully needed. not sure on the calculations but that sounds wrong.

Also i\'d suggest running bigger secondaries and standard primaries if you were to upgrade. And don\'t forget you\'ll need it all mapped. tbh on the stock turbo, there\'s not much need for the PFC. Plently of piggy back plug and play solutions that can take you to 300bhp on the stock system


\'91 FC TII - Drifter... Under construction :D
:burnout

yiug412

I\'m looking at putting the Sard 800cc at the secondary. 140 pounds for 2 with p&p, sounds right?
 
I got the PFC thot its a good investment, as well when i have the money i will upgrade to a bigger turbo as well. all depends if i can get a good pay job during the placment year tho :D waiting for the engine to die then I can rebuild and port it. but it seems pretty healthy atm tho lol.
 
thanks for the info :)
 
Quote from: dthebuk;712480well you could uprate the fuel stuff for piece of mind but it isn\'t fully needed. not sure on the calculations but that sounds wrong
 
Also i\'d suggest running bigger secondaries and standard primaries if you were to upgrade. And don\'t forget you\'ll need it all mapped. tbh on the stock turbo, there\'s not much need for the PFC. Plently of piggy back plug and play solutions that can take you to 300bhp on the stock system
1984 Honda Civic EF single carb 1.4
1989 Nissan Cefiro A31 RB20DE
1990 Toyota MR2 Turbo SW20 3SGTE
1990 Mazda RX7 TII FC3S 13BT
2004 Mazda RX8 231 SE3P RENESIS!
1974 Leyland Mini Mk3 1000
1994 Mazda MX5 1.8i BP
2003 Mazda RX8 231... something with turbo.
Always put a smile on you when the \'beep\' goes on :chat