V8 Rx7

Started by nwo1986, July 06, 2010, 12:36:36 PM

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JamietypeR

Does it have to be a v8 engine, I saw a rx7 for sale with a nissan 200sx engine in it. I\'m sure that would be alot cheaper an user friendly to get fitted and run

Rex_FTW

Quote from: Mir;704188By comparison Roatry is far more better than a Piston Engine.... Everyone says that you have to rebuild rotary after certain millage but I say you have to rebuild any engine after certain millage.... someone said...those who support piston supports a family car (four door) like subru or EVO not a sports car.... I have seen Skylines breaking pistons and RX7 breaking Apex seals.... so this experience tells me that both engines (rotary and piston) engines are breakable then why we degrade one engine and uprate the other.....both engines can break.... I am running 20B 3 ROTOR and I can tell you from my experience...keeping a rotary engine means that you are always on your tows.... you have to ensure that at all times everything is ok with your car i.e. water level..oil etc ....which is the real fun of having a sports car that your head is under the bonnet and you are admiring your engine from each angle.... on the other hand you may get away with piston engine on these issues but you are loosing on the fun of the sports car (see above)....I know different people have different ways of having fun so I am not gona go there:Giggle.... If anyone would say anything bad about rotary engines I guess it should be me not anyone els....as I have broken 4 (four) 13b engines in 3 months but I still decided to stay with rotaries because the fun..the torque the look of rx7 beats everything comes in her way... trust me on this..:WaveBye

 
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Any modified engine will put more strain on it.
 
Those who think a highly modified piston engine won\'t encounter problems, just ask the Evo and Sti boys.
 
Rebuilding a skyline engine? How about 9k please?
 
Firstly instaling a v8 is VERY costly, people don\'t seem to realise this.
 
A good installation will cost at least 10K.
 
Then if it goes, well take out a bank loan.

JamietypeR

I agree the rotary is an amazing engine for pure thrill, but cost wise it\'s crazy a piston engine doesn\'t need rebuilding every year like most ....els do that\'s the catch. Rx7 is by far the most sexiest looking car to come out of japan, it just needs abit more reliability behind it.

BlitzBoy

Quote from: JamietypeR;704229, I saw a rx7 for sale with a nissan 200sx engine in it.

FAIL....

At least with a V8 you have decent noise, the SR20 has the most boring engine note of all time, Ive had two Pulsar and a 200SX zzzz in the noise stakes lol
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old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

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Rex_FTW

Quote from: JamietypeR;704240I agree the rotary is an amazing engine for pure thrill, but cost wise it\'s crazy a piston engine doesn\'t need rebuilding every year like most ....els do that\'s the catch. Rx7 is by far the most sexiest looking car to come out of japan, it just needs abit more reliability behind it.

That\'s why all the research and design in recent years has gone to uprated seals.
 
Try them before you knock them :)
 
And it\'s important to get the map right. Any engine, piston or rotary that\'s not mapped right will go.
 
And you say rotaries need a rebuilding every year like most... WHO?
 
I have known plenty of rx7 owners and they have never needed a rebuild in a year without it being the cause of an ancillary or the person pushing their car to the limit.
 
Where do people get facts like the above from?
 
That\'s what gives rotaries a bad name, this myth about the engines going every year and every 6 thousand miles.
 
Those who look after their car and engine correctly never have the problem you mention above.
 
The car will only be as good as how much effort you put into looking after it.

tinker-27

what some people dont seem to realise is like my self i wanted a v8 powered car to have fun in like a tvr but didnt want a fibre glass kit car so we build a rear wheel drive no traction control fun car and we choose a v8 because they tick all the right boxes . we dont hate rotarys and we dont slag them (i quite like them), but over half my customers buy dead fds to convert and are not already owners , we use fds because they are one of the best donor vehicles about. it does cost money to do but you end up with a car with a 2004-2009 engine gearbox and wiring and 500bhp wheel power is doable and still reliable,

JamietypeR

No one is putting down rotary engines they are good at what they do but u cannot compare there reliability to a piston engine, u never see supras or skylines breaking unless someone has smashed up the car. REX_FTW there not made up storys as quoted by the guy above who you have quoted aswell  MIR (If anyone would say anything bad about rotary engines I guess it should be me not anyone els....as I have broken 4 (four) 13b engines in 3 months) if u had a piston engine rebuilt after it\'s done well over 150,000miles u wouldn\'t need another for a very long time. But having said this I\'m still a rotary fan even tho I have chucked £ssss into my car

Rex_FTW

I have heard of skyline engines going.
 
And they cost a shed load more to repair than a rotary.
 
As for your woes with the engine, I am sorry to hear that.
 
However it can\'t be a coincidence that you have done that many engines in such a short space of time.
 
Check your loom etc as there is a deeper reason to what has happened to you... and it is not the engine.
 
Check you ancillaries too and who maps your car?

BlitzBoy

Ive heard of plenty of Skyline engines going bang.

Jamie if you had so many engines going in such a small space of time like has been said before check your ancillaries,mapper etc

I\'ve had my Drag spec engine for the last three years over 550bhp,over 10000 miles, many many full blown high rpm drag runs, not a peep of a breakage.

Any engine is only as reliable as the bits around it and who maps it.
The reason why a lot of rotary engines break is because they are more sensitive to ancillaries around it going wrong. A piston can take some abuse if things are not 100% on the ancillaries front.

And a NA engine will always be more reliable then a force fed engine
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

SiH

Quote from: JamietypeR;704430u never see supras or skylines breaking unless someone has smashed up the car.
Utter tripe. You need to dig deeper into RB reliability, espeically when tuned ;)

Quotebroken 4 (four) 13b engines in 3 months)
Who built the engines?

I\'m bored of this argument, I really am. I love the 13b, and I love V8\'s. I\'d happily have a V8 RX7. In my fantasy garage my whire FD would sit beside an LS\'d Black Burnout FD with ridiculous cams and very little silencing.
Rotaries are great, V8\'s are great.

So, remind me, who\'s dad was better than whose? And was it the PS3 or XBOX that pwns y0?

JamietypeR

It\'s not my enigine that has popped four times guys, I\'ve only had the 1 rebuild, I was quoting (MIR) from this threade he has had four rebuilds in that space of time. I\'m keeping my engine standard in the hope that it will run all normal for me.

SiH

If someone has had 4 engien rebuilds in 3 months, I\'d suggest it was time to look at either:
a) Their builder
b) Their tuner
c) their ancilliaries
d) their mechanical sympathy

Grant Monkhouse

i never realised how touchy people can get over this discussion. Im sure everyone has seen this video i am linking to but whoever says that they wouldnt want an engine like this in their car then they dont deserve one at all. LOL
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB1Wrv0SiyQ
 
I know it is not an FD RX7 but sure as hell is awesome, expensive and funny.
 
When i have looked for information on V8 conversions, you are looking at £15000 for everything, including a t56 gear box or something like that.

Rex_FTW

If there were thousands of rx7s I don\'t think it would be a problem. But there are not.

The fact is that people hear silly myths about the engine, then think oh I can\'t keep that in its going to blow up in 1000 miles.

There are hardly any rx7s to begin with, and as more and more people think they need to change the engine, there will hardly be any rotary rx7s left. There is no need to change it if you look after engine like it should.

When doing a rebuild, get a new loom. People seem to forget these cars are 15 years old and so ancillaries will inevitabley go and it won\'t cost much to replace them.

Grant Monkhouse

Quote from: Rex_FTW;704550If there were thousands of rx7s I don\'t think it would be a problem. But there are not.

The fact is that people hear silly myths about the engine, then think oh I can\'t keep that in its going to blow up in 1000 miles.

There are hardly any rx7s to begin with, and as more and more people think they need to change the engine, there will hardly be any rotary rx7s left. There is no need to change it if you look after engine like it should.

When doing a rebuild, get a new loom. People seem to forget these cars are 15 years old and so ancillaries will inevitabley go and it won\'t cost much to replace them.

I do agree that they need to be kept as is, I have one of the uk rx7s sold in this country out of 125 originally sold and around only 50 left. The rotary engine is an amazing piece engineering and there is nothing else that makes that very distinctive soun