Thinking of stripping engine

Started by MrHanky, June 20, 2010, 09:52:47 AM

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TiddlesRX7

That vid just made my 21 month old son smile and say "noisey,   Daddys pap pap"
Think he might be a rotorhead :)
I don\'t need to upgrade my stock turbo to beat your ass!

Get your finger out, get it on the road and start driving it then!!! (B.Martin 25/2/12)

MrHanky

Quote from: TiddlesRX7;700854That vid just made my 21 month old son smile and say "noisey, Daddys pap pap"
Think he might be a rotorhead :)

Lol, good boy!
My 23 month old has only just strung 2 words together (daddy car), so yours is doing well :)
 
Mark

dthebuk

N/a rotaries are rediculous. Had 2decent silencers on mine and it made my ears bleed!  Have you considered fueling? I\'m under the impression you can run a street port on stock components. Bridge port or pp may require an aftermarket ecu(or carbs), pump and injectors. Though the TII stuff will take 300 bhp which would be around the max a pp 2 rotor will put out


\'91 FC TII - Drifter... Under construction :D
:burnout

MrHanky

Quote from: dthebuk;700938N/a rotaries are rediculous. Had 2decent silencers on mine and it made my ears bleed! Have you considered fueling? I\'m under the impression you can run a street port on stock components. Bridge port or pp may require an aftermarket ecu(or carbs), pump and injectors. Though the TII stuff will take 300 bhp which would be around the max a pp 2 rotor will put out

The sound thing might put me off going all out as it would be pointless if I could not use the car on the track.  As for ECU etc, I have started to consider the costs of these requirements.  
 
I keep thinking I should just buy a TT (like the red one for sale that looks liek it needs a rebuild).  Financially it would make a lot more sense.  I will have to have a good hard think about whether to go expensive NA or cheaper TII.
 
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L18M

this thread might come in handy and inspire you
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61960

104 db at 2/3 revs. so is possible :)
2 doritos on a stick woohoo :rollin

dthebuk

Quote from: MrHanky;700976I keep thinking I should just buy a TT (like the red one for sale that looks liek it needs a rebuild).  Financially it would make a lot more sense.  I will have to have a good hard think about whether to go expensive NA or cheaper TII.
 
Mark

depends how far what you want to take it really and your budget. Bang for buck, there\'s not a lot that\'ll beat a TII. You could always just run a street ported n/a and spend more money on weight loss. If you speak to stavfc on here or driftworks he might be able to give you an idea. His fc is around 1000kg i belive, maybe a bit more, with a full cage in it. He\'s didtched to pop up headlights and is running a rear lexan hatch etc


\'91 FC TII - Drifter... Under construction :D
:burnout

MrHanky

Cheers for the input guys.  My head is spinning at the minute as im really not sure what to go for.  To be honest if I could get hold of £800 right now, I would be seriously tempted by monterx7\'s TII, as it does look like a very clean car.  But on the flipside a ported NA would be cool.  It just costs a bit more to do.
 
Mark

L18M

wallet said TII but heart sais PP :p

this might help with the weight loss.
is interesting read.
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/how-fat-is-your-car?imageNo=7
2 doritos on a stick woohoo :rollin

MrHanky

Lol Liam, thats pretty much how I feel.
That TG piece was interesting but is making a mockery of my current weight loss program.  Essentially its not worth doing, according to that....... cheers Liam......... walks away all dispondant ;)
 
Quote from: L18M;700995wallet said TII but heart sais PP :p
 
this might help with the weight loss.
is interesting read.
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/how-fat-is-your-car?imageNo=7

L18M

lol, no not no point, just make sure the car is set up properly for it.
i think camber, ride height would make a difference as the weight would shift from stock f/r 51/49 to stripped out 55/45 as most parts taken out would be carpets etc from centre to rear of the car, unless you take out some stuff form the engine bay to balance out the 50kg or so taken out the back.
maybe a bit more downforce on the rear required to compensate for the loss of weight?

clive would be a good man to talk to given his racing exp and also tonyc i think it was on here.
also casey / stacy on here races so might be able to help on the handling front?
2 doritos on a stick woohoo :rollin

MrHanky

Thanks again Liam.  If only I knew someone who was selling coilovers ;)
Im at Finmere tomorrow (unless wife goes into labour between now and then) so will get my first real chance to see how it handles :)
 
Mark

L18M

lol, hope it all goes well.
heres another for reason to go PP n/a. can run 95 ron happily so save you money on petrol :p
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65197
2 doritos on a stick woohoo :rollin

MrHanky

Quote from: L18M;701121lol, hope it all goes well.
heres another for reason to go PP n/a. can run 95 ron happily so save you money on petrol :p
http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65197

lol, I have seen that thread already.  Suddenly the proposition of a PP engine seems like an economical and sensible thing to do :D

MrHanky

Just resurrecting this thread, seeing as I now have a spare engine to play with :)
Just reading as much as possible about everything to do with rebuilds, before I start pulling my old EGI apart.
One question I have is to do with ECU\'s etc.
 
Now I am lead to believe that if I went for a street port then I could carry on using the stock setup, but once above this I need to factor in a few other things like ECU\'s.  But I also noticed having just been looking around the Hayward site that Carl uses carbs a fair bit.
 
So my question is what are the pros and cons for each of these methods?
 
Thanks
 
Mark

RamoNZ

By a duff turbo motor and use the plates from it - the 6 port plates are not really great to port unless its just a clean up which if you are going to the trouble anyway, not worth it. Get them bridge ported and get a second hand carb set up.
 
No ECU hassles then, driveability is reduced a bit, as if fuel economy but peak power and the all important fun factor should be the same!