FD\'s with stance!

[Speedworks]

I don\'t.didn\'t bother to put my own car up. I know in those pics it was still a bit heigh. In the meantime it\'s sitting another 2cm lower (back then it was MOT setup.... Belgian style) although my tires are rubbing the fenders in the front.

Stance is one thing and I think Hellaflush is something for big cars that are used mainly for cruising.

The FD is a pure sports car... So higher speeds are more common. I wouldn\'t like to sit that low with my FD and meeting up with an unexpected speed bump or any other bits on the road at the speeds the FD is capable of.

Hellaflush rides wouldn\'t need a good suspension setup as the shock travel at that height will be next to nothing, as well as driving experience. All in al killing the true strenght of the FD... superb handling.

True, the sight of Hellaflush rides is great, and I do too love it, but each car has it\'s function and I never bought my FD to be a slow show queen. Then i could have bought something slower, bigger to cruise around town sitting down low.

Again, nothing bad to either \'stance\' , it\'s just a mather of meeting the cars\' perspective and other than for photograph means, I don\'t think it serves for anything else.


But then again this was meant to be a picture thread.. let\'s go back to that.

[Ada7]

Yay or nah on mine?

Adam

[Nik da Greek]

FD\'S WITH STANCE! - PLEASE KEEP WORDS ON THIS THREAD MINIMAL!

I wasn\'t going to say owt due to this OP statement, but since everyone else has, don\'t see why I shouldn\'t. I agree some of these cars pictured do not have "stance". I also think that if you have to define, explain and categorise "stance" then you probably a) don\'t have it and b) wouldn\'t understand it anyway.

Furthermore, an FD as stock combines outstanding looks with one of the best dynamically balanced driver\'s cars ever to come out of Japan. If you want to turn it into an undriveable trailer queen simply to fulfill someone else\'s criteria for what a good looking car should sit like, you\'ve probably bought the wrong car in the first place.

just my 2p

[ENVYD]

I also think that if you have to define, explain and categorise "stance" then you probably a) don\'t have it and b) wouldn\'t understand it anyway.

 
so your telling me if you have a good stance i you know it along with other people, you not allowed to explain it, as that now means you do not have stance anymore?
 
also what is the correct car for a trailer/show queen? no car has/was built with been completely change in to something other than stock in mind!
people who say, why do that to a rx-7 would probs also look at a corsa and say why waste some much money on that. its only a "corsa", i think it mostly comes down to people being jelous as they can not afford to do it themselves!
 
mine is going to be a show car well a demo car for my business, but hell i am going to track it, who realy cares if its that low ya smash bits up? just fix it!
 
if a rx-7 to such a good racing sporty style of car from stock and should not be made into a show queen, and that is your only views of a rx-7, then ask yourselves, why did yous buy one it if you don’t track it? as there is no way you can get full use on just street roads!

[gavink]

Furthermore, an FD as stock combines outstanding looks with one of the best dynamically balanced driver\'s cars ever to come out of Japan. If you want to turn it into an undriveable trailer queen simply to fulfill someone else\'s criteria for what a good looking car should sit like, you\'ve probably bought the wrong car in the first place.

just for you :guinness on me

[DSNorth]

/me looks for popcorn emote.

[Nik da Greek]

Weeell, first off, it\'s not a personal assault on anyone, just a viewpoint I thought I\'d offer up since others had come out with their own ones first. Just like that on record, I was happy just to look at the pretty pictures and bite my tongue, but if arbitrary views are flying about why not jump in

so your telling me if you have a good stance i you know it along with other people, you not allowed to explain it, as that now means you do not have stance anymore?

No, I mean that it annoys me that everything has to have arbitrary discrete values attached to it. For example, it is apparently not sufficient for a car to look superb in the way it sits, it has to have a silly name and definition stuck on it "Hellaflush" :3Confused Oh, really, puh-lease :rolleyes:. The table posted seems to attribute greater kudos to the more undriveable the car has been made in the search for "stance" and I think that unarguably proves little other than the modifier is simply expressing how great a fashion victim they are.

also what is the correct car for a trailer/show queen? no car has/was built with been completely change in to something other than stock in mind!
people who say, why do that to a rx-7 would probs also look at a corsa and say why waste some much money on that. its only a "corsa", i think it mostly comes down to people being jelous as they can not afford to do it themselves!
 

If you\'re actually asking my opinion rather than just havin a pop ...then there is no correct car for being a trailer queen. A car is designed as transport. Some are designed nearer the stylish end of the spectrum, some nearer the performance end, sometimes there\'s a happy cross-over between the two, but what they all have in common is that they are designed to move one or more people around. If they no longer perform this function then they are no longer really a car as such, just a rather expensive sculpture. IMHO. Show car, yes, fine. The prettier the better, so long as it\'s still used as a car, no problem. Even if it\'s a 30k Corsa with huge ICE, if that\'s what flicks your switch, I can appreciate the work if not necessarily finding the finished product to my taste.

Yes, it\'s also rare for there not to be areas of compromise in a car that can be improved upon with careful aftermarket modification. It\'s also entirely possible to fduk up a perfectly good car with careless aftermarket modification

mine is going to be a show car well a demo car for my business, but hell i am going to track it, who realy cares if its that low ya smash bits up? just fix it!
 

Good for you. Your car will be a superb demo car for your business, it already looks fantastic even unfinished, whatever silly arbitrary definiton of "stance" you chose to apply to it. Even more kudos to you for being happy to drive it as it was meant to be driven, even if that means risking clattering it. I\'m not saying this to appease your clearly injured pride or anything, I honestly don\'t give a monkeys, but because it\'s true and you deserve the accolades :yes

if a rx-7 to such a good racing sporty style of car from stock and should not be made into a show queen, and that is your only views of a rx-7, then ask yourselves, why did yous buy one it if you don’t track it? as there is no way you can get full use on just street roads!

I never said racing car, that\'s a whole world away, and people who want their car to be like a race car have clearly never tried to drive one, because if they had they\'d know what a horrible thing to try and drive on the road that would be, but that\'s incidental. I think many RX-7s have been developed with a more sporting emphasis, and a side effect of this is to enhance their looks in a purposeful motorsport sort of way.

In fact, the entire nonsense of "stance" presumably developed from people noticing how much better cars look after being lowered and widened for track use. However, one inch ground clearance on a billiard table smooth track is different to the same level of clearance on the road, and claiming that any greater renders you a loser in the stance game because you\'re not willing to regularly smash bits of the car off popping out for a pint of milk does not make one hardcore in my view, but just rather silly.

Much like judging people\'s car on whether it falls into these rather academic deliniations. Just about every car pictured on this thread looks excellent, but alreadythe sneering has begun. "can\'t have proper stance, you can\'t see the wheels from the front" is possibly taking it all a bit too seriously isn\'t it?

As to how I use my car(s), or indeed my sportsbike, on the street, well. You\'ve never seen me drive or ride so I could drive Miss Daisy and you\'d have a point. Or maybe I like to press on a bit :rollin

just for you :guinness on me

Cheers :rollin

At the end of the day guys, a forum is all about cross-polination of ideas and opinions and surely the beauty is we can discuss such things like adults without getting the knock? If you hold true to a radical ideal of perfection then surely you have to accept this will alienate as many as it attracts and therefore be prepared to discuss or defend it? Maybe not, answers on a postcard

[ENVYD]

well i am dyslexic, so allot of words you have said just there i have no idea what they mean, but i think there was i points should say thanks lmao!
 

Weeell, first off, it\'s not a personal assault on anyone, just a viewpoint I thought I\'d offer up since others had come out with their own ones first. Just like that on record, I was happy just to look at the pretty pictures and bite my tongue, but if arbitrary views are flying about why not jump in

no i did not intend on it being a personal assault, as i don’t think my car even comes close to a show queen and i think other people would have the same opinion on that!
 

No, I mean that it annoys me that everything has to have arbitrary discrete values attached to it. For example, it is apparently not sufficient for a car to look superb in the way it sits, it has to have a silly name and definition stuck on it "Hellaflush" :3Confused Oh, really, puh-lease :rolleyes:. The table posted seems to attribute greater kudos to the more undriveable the car has been made in the search for "stance" and I think that unarguably proves little other than the modifier is simply expressing how great a fashion victim they are.

TBH i didn’t even know there was a type of stance called "hellaflush" to me that is a lil sad, i just always thought a car has its own individual stance to its own individual looks, like a person!
 
 
 

If you\'re actually asking my opinion rather than just havin a pop ...then there is no correct car for being a trailer queen. A car is designed as transport. Some are designed nearer the stylish end of the spectrum, some nearer the performance end, sometimes there\'s a happy cross-over between the two, but what they all have in common is that they are designed to move one or more people around. If they no longer perform this function then they are no longer really a car as such, just a rather expensive sculpture. IMHO. Show car, yes, fine. The prettier the better, so long as it\'s still used as a car, no problem. Even if it\'s a 30k Corsa with huge ICE, if that\'s what flicks your switch, I can appreciate the work if not necessarily finding the finished product to my taste.

no that was asking a question mate, not having a pop as i am not a key board basher, or internet warrior lol what every they are called, just something said may seem to come out other ways than meant!
 
 

Good for you. Your car will be a superb demo car for your business, it already looks fantastic even unfinished, whatever silly arbitrary definiton of "stance" you chose to apply to it. Even more kudos to you for being happy to drive it as it was meant to be driven, even if that means risking clattering it. I\'m not saying this to appease your clearly injured pride or anything, I honestly don\'t give a monkeys, but because it\'s true and you deserve the accolades :yes.

and as above, i think that’s the part were i am maybe meant to say thanks, have no idea accolades means lol! also i don’t have pride or ego i just build what i think looks okay and how i want it, if i went, or for that matter everyone else went with the same views, every car would look the same!
 
i think when i finish my car, it will have a "stance" that will go with my views and with how the car looks, not by someone else’s say so..
 

sneering has begun. "can\'t have proper stance, you can\'t see the wheels from the front" is possibly taking it all a bit too seriously isn\'t it?.

that’s what mainly just point my view. like i said "they don’t look like they have stance to me" just in my views, as i don’t like a car to look like a hovercraft by the wheels hiding in the arches!
i don’t mean anything to sounds like having a dig! like you said if just everyone’s and anyone’s views clashing and people explaining what they do/do not like and something’s may seem like they come off worse than what they meant!
 
much lovez

[Nik da Greek]

Cool, we\'re all little Fonzies together then :Giggle Not trying to sound up my arse with posh words either, so sorry if it sounded like that. I agree with you on the hovercraft point FWIW to be fair, it\'s good point well made

I think we seem to agree that if a car looks the biz it doesn\'t really matter what you call it, which is kinda what depressed me about the whole thing in the first place, the different classes of "stance" was the final straw. We all know when something just looks right without having to have M*x P*wer write an article telling us whether we can like it or not, and how we should measure it. For example.....

RIGHT:

WRONG:


Two cars essetially the same theme, stockish body with contrasting wheels. one\'s awesome, one loathesome and you don\'t need a diagram to tell which :3Confused

[ENVYD]

Not trying to sound up my arse with posh words either, so sorry if it sounded like that.

thats fine mate, your just better spoken then me i was to lazy at school to learn cool words lol!
 

WRONG:

 

yeah i know what you mean, i kinda like that :rollin, sorry i really should not laff!

[DSNorth]

Cool, we\'re all little Fonzies together then :Giggle Not trying to sound up my arse with posh words either, so sorry if it sounded like that. I agree with you on the hovercraft point FWIW to be fair, it\'s good point well made

I think we seem to agree that if a car looks the biz it doesn\'t really matter what you call it, which is kinda what depressed me about the whole thing in the first place, the different classes of "stance" was the final straw. We all know when something just looks right without having to have M*x P*wer write an article telling us whether we can like it or not, and how we should measure it. For example.....

RIGHT:


WRONG:


Two cars essetially the same theme, stockish body with contrasting wheels. one\'s awesome, one loathesome and you don\'t need a diagram to tell which :3Confused

Your right... that black one is horrible

Just my two cents, as this thread seems to be back on the right tracks.

Your car should look and drive the way you want it to. FDUK anyone else

[L18M]

WRONG:

i think this ^^ is missing some graphics..

[dthebuk]

Stance is subjective

for me it is not silly offset, silly low and silly stretch like this car


it is the right amount of all three. like so


as you can see. the car is slightly higher on the back than the front, this angles it down a bit giving it an aggressive stance, which, IMO is a good stance. Also IMO the key to "good" stance on an fd is to keep it flat as this goes with the lines of the car. Saying that, if you slap 18\'s on the back an have the rim almost in contact with the arch, 17\'s on the front lowered so that the car itself sits flat (or alternatively you could just play with tyre profiles. You can keep the nice stance of the fd whilst still looking aggressive. and once again, IMO, more offset on the rears than front adds to the aggressiveness making what i think is the perfect the stance. But thats just what i think, some people may think a car like this doesn\'t have a good stance and just looks stupid.

here\'s an fd to keep the thread going

[batman]

there nice to look at but the state of our roads at the moment i wouldnt run a stretched tyre for risk of blow outs i dont think there safe imo

[SiH]

there nice to look at but the state of our roads at the moment i wouldnt run a stretched tyre for risk of blow outs i dont think there safe imo

Sorry dude, but that\'s utter junk. Do you know anyone that\'s ever happened to? And not a \'mate of a mate\'.

Thjousands of people out htere are running stretch all the time in extreme conditions with no idssues at all, but please let\'s not turn this into another one of \'those\' threads - there\'s already one going on on SXOC that\'s full of crap.

My personal experience is probably 60k+ on various stretches and I\'m not dead.

I\'m also feeling kind of proud that on a thread about stance, S-bodies start being used as examples :cool:

The Emeral 14a on the massive Works is OTT imho - it\'s offset for offset\'s sake.

Anyways. let\'s get this back to the original point - picies of FD\'s that sit in an awesome fashion!

As an example of how you just can\'t define stance, I\'ll use the below piccy. As said, offset and ride height are key to a stance, but this car isn;t exsreme in either, it just sits so well in MY opinion: