Starting a Flooded RX (mainly FD)

[Robin]

Barry,
          Yes, what you say shouldn`t make sense, but studying the wiring diagram suggests that you`re quite right - a relay and an on/off switch aren`t always the same thing.
Anyway, the switch idea seems to work as a very simple precaution, especially when you`ve got short journeys (or a wife with the clutch control of a yew tree) to contend with. Also, (and I know that none of these ideas are new) the 100:1 two stroke thing does seem to make a difference with an older (mine`s got 75,000 on original motor) engine.
We live and learn.....

Robin

[skybusr34]

im a bit confused.  this thread had been jumping between 2nd and 3rd gen rx7.    in simple terms can i put a switch on the 3rd gen to stop the fuel pump. cheers

[andyrose]

After flooding my car I removed the plugs, squirted some oil in, removed fuel relay and fired her up. runs ok whilst stationary revs freely with no probs.
I let her warm up before taking her out for a spin, everything was fine until i went WOT and all she did was loose power and start popping n banging.
Before the great flood she was running really sweetly with no probs at all.
The engine used no oil/coolant so I assume its all ok.
Could it be that i havn\'t connected the ht leads tightly?
It only does it on WOT under heavy loads?
Advice much appreciated

Andy (3rd gen)

[dino]

hmm when my engine is warm if i turn it off and then start again within a few hours (so it\'s still warm) it jus floods. I turn her over bout 3 times then on the third or fourth twist of the key she starts but need to keep revs up. any ideas why it only does it when warm?

[Brett]

A common problem is that your injectors are leaking into the housing after you switch the engine off, hence you effectively have a flooded engine, this is magnified when everything is warmed up, after all you have cast end plates and Alu housings so any wear will now be at its most apparent, e.g. low compression and no combustion!

  A short term fix is to remove the egi fuse and turn the engine over a few times before restarting from warm.  But theres no escaping the fact that your gonna need a rebuild sooner rather than later, and I reccomend doing it sooner.  Its a lot easier to be able to drive your car to a workshop rather than have to trailer it there.

Brett

[airmanuk]

Didn\'t we come to the conclusion that starting the car with the accelerator pedal pushed to the floor cuts off the fuel?

This is what is recommended in the handbook for the FD.

Martin, you suggested this to me and it worked, for which I was truly grateful, as the idea of trying to get to the spark plugs, removing them to cook in the oven didn\'t fill me with joy.

How\'s Meryl doing?

Regards

Neil

[rx7aberdeen]

Believe it or not if you pour 3/4 of a can of coke directly into the inlet manifold pf a flooded rx7 and turn it over the car will start did it myself and witnessed what i thought was a miracle!  has to be coke, cant be diet and has to be an rx7 to work!!!!!!!!!

[scooby_si]

How does that work then? I know coke is good at cleaning stuff like toilets, no really, so could it have negative effects on any carbon build ups or such like?
Si (intreged but paranoid.....http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008\' target=\'_blank\'>http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_6_4.gif\' border=0>)

[scooby_si]

OK seems my car has now flooded at the gagrage, suffice to say it hasn\'t been used on any long runs :rollin did warn them not to turn it on for short journeys (2 garages on opposite sides of road kinda thing) but anyway.
Now presuming it doesn\'t just start up nicely tomorrow http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008\' target=\'_blank\'>http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/17/17_1_10.gif\' border=0> can we confirm if best bet is to try clutch starting it from the word go, although not a lot of nice long streets to try this on, or should removal of plugs be first step?
Have we concluded whether foot to floor is sufficient to cut fuel or does some fuse or wotever definately need unplugging & if so can someone either show me on a pikky or use good english (i know not normally sumin i either do or request) exactly what needs unplugging from where?
Help retard on board but this muppet needs sum good info, not that all isnt already, on exactly what bits to pull from where (plugs i just about have located :rollin lol)
Only spare plugs i have are 7\'s will just putting these in leading side help/work once deflooded?
Cheers
Si (too moist for my liking http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008\' target=\'_blank\'>http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4_2_1.gif\' border=0>)

[rx7aberdeen]

55p can of coke save yourself all the hassle trust me it works and there has been no side effects just let the engine run for a few minutes after the car starts to burn off the coke

[scooby_si]

may try that if it gets desperate but as i say still cant say as it sounds too tempting given the things that stuff can eat thru.....
Looks like mine may not actually be flooded as it was just one of the numpties having disconnected the battery http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008\' target=\'_blank\'>http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_5_49.gif\' border=0> & it had got too flat to start it kinda thing, at least that\'s what i\'m hoping will get some spare 9\'s in just incase thou.........
Si

[tailz]

Hi Glenn,

This will sound a really dumb question, but here goes...

When you earlier advised to add some \'pre-mix\' oil to your tank to help things along, am I right in assuming that you simply get the amount of oil needed in the 100:1 ratio and add some petrol to it and pour it in?

Please no-one laugh if it is as dumb as I imagine it might be!

With the amount of problems I seem to have, the last thing I need to do is to damage it through ignorance!

Thanks

[Draco]

Also another newbie here
it was stated that you can put 2-stroke oil in hte petrol tank every 4th tank full.
I do see the benifits for this but can you answer a few questions for me please!

1, does it effect your emmisions for a MOT?

2, will it damage the CAT?

3, will it oil up the plugs?

thanks
Chris

[yonner]

u dont need to do this unles the omp has been removed for cars that run high end ecus like motec because it cannot control the omp u could do it if u wanted but there is no real reason why it wont damge ur cat but it might give out some more emitions

[Glenn Butcher]

Hi guys,

Sorry I haven\'t replied on this one.

My recommendation for adding oil into the fuel tank (pre-mix) was based on if you are running your car on a track day.  The original thread is out there somewhere.

But when adding the pre-mix, yes it is as simple as working out how many litres of fuel to the pre-mix ratio, e.g. 1 litre of pre-mix to 100litres of fuel, so 500mls to 50 litres.

I wouldn\'t recommend you use it normally, as it could potentially foul your spark plugs.

Yonner - MoTeC controls the OMP now, the software had been written some time ago.