Went Dynoing today........ :(

Started by Well-sy, September 12, 2009, 06:45:18 PM

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Well-sy

This is my RX8 231 at the dyno:
 

 
Result :(
 

 
Any ideas people. From looking at the graph my only guess thus far, is that it may need a major service, i.e. plugs/ coils etc.
 
Any help appreciated :)

probedb

Is the graph at the wheels or the flywheel? The 231 is at the fly.

m1tch

Whats that? A supercharger needed? really? AND its shiny? :D

Well-sy

Yes, some form of FI is definetly needed!
 
So what is it supposed to be at the wheels?

clive

This is horse power at the wheels and this figure is absolutely fine  :driving

The 230 figure comes from the flywheel horse power where the engine would be Dyno tested before install, once in the car the gear box, diff, propshaft etc all contribute to frictional loss that brings the wheel horse power down to the type of figures you are seeing    

Hope this helps
All the best Clive

Well-sy

ahhh I see. Thanks, never realised this.
 
Still gunna make that figure bigger tho lol

m1tch

I don\'t know why they unbolted the FI systems off the RX8 anyhow lol its a sports car and it seems to be a step backwards lol They even went backwards reducing the oil injectors causing early engines to fail...silly ford infected cars lol

m4drx

its is very interesting this would come up now as a friend of mine out his 231 on the dyno recently it has:

39k engine
uprated coils (mrp)
uprated leads (mrp)
new 02 (mrp)
Decat (mrp)
Cat back

it made.......


160 atw and 192 at the fly - bit shocking really.
fduk.

RXSpeedy

Ahh so that was your RX8 it was looking very nice only RX7 and RX8 down there yesterday. Next time ill say hello if your aout.

Well-sy

Quote from: RXSpeedy;641100Ahh so that was your RX8 it was looking very nice only RX7 and RX8 down there yesterday. Next time ill say hello if your aout.

oh hello :D
 
yes that was me at the rr day. Did have a nose about the rx7, probably one of the first cars I looked at. I think now I just get instantly drawn to rotary lol :rollin

Well-sy

Quote from: m4drx;641070its is very interesting this would come up now as a friend of mine out his 231 on the dyno recently it has:
 
39k engine
uprated coils (mrp)
uprated leads (mrp)
new 02 (mrp)
Decat (mrp)
Cat back
 
it made.......
 
 
160 atw and 192 at the fly - bit shocking really.

wow not good. espeacially since the only part from that list I can match is the cat back!

clive

Quote from: m4drx;641070its is very interesting this would come up now as a friend of mine out his 231 on the dyno recently it has:

39k engine
uprated coils (mrp)
uprated leads (mrp)
new 02 (mrp)
Decat (mrp)
Cat back

it made.......


160 atw and 192 at the fly - bit shocking really.

Hi Tharik,

You should realise that If this is the case then this cars engine has somthing either seriously wrong with it or the dyno was reading very very wrong ,

For instance We have know these portable rolling road dynos to be wayyyyy out,



If the horse power figure is correct then this car must really have some bad issues like bad starting misfiring etc etc,



If all is well get him to run it up the rad against another 230
All the best Clive

BlitzBoy

Quote from: Well-sy;640943
 
Any ideas people. From looking at the graph my only guess thus far, is that it may need a major service, i.e. plugs/ coils etc.
 
Any help appreciated :)

Guys this figure is FLYWHEEL horsepower, not wheels, if it was wheels it means it has 250 at the flywheel which I doubt for a stock machine.

Most Rx8s (231) on dynos produce around 160 to 180 at the WHEELS
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

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BlitzBoy

Also Clive and everybody with an Rx8 , you will have problems dynoing a RX8 correctly.
Please read this article , it explains the issues well.
http://www.modified.com/editors/technobabble/0312_sccp_mazda_rx8_miata_horsepower_dyno_test/index.html

your cars are probably running fine :D
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

Well-sy

Quote from: BlitzBoy;641334Also Clive and everybody with an Rx8 , you will have problems dynoing a RX8 correctly.
Please read this article , it explains the issues well.
http://www.modified.com/editors/technobabble/0312_sccp_mazda_rx8_miata_horsepower_dyno_test/index.html
 
your cars are probably running fine :D

 
 I think this particular dyno was fairly advanced, my car was done on a \'rotary\' setting, infact it was a twin rotary setting as it has different modes for how many rotors you have.
 
 So does this mean my car is running very well, considering all the other figures iv seen in this thread.
 
also looking at the bhp line, could the initial dip in the curve be cured with a very good full service?