Anyone seen a Skyline GTR Engine in a RX7 FD before!

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m1tch

Quote from: russellparkerx;641080Yuck.  Why bother.  Must have spent silly money to produce a crazy fast car with a heavy front end.  Understeer a plenty.  Could have done 20b and had same power - but kept it special.

20B would have been WAY more powerful lol Might have made a 26b with that kind of money


rx-dave

I do like this car but i\'d prefer another Porsche Turbo for £35k :3gears-rh
Dave.

carl0s

Quote from: rx-dave;641078I\'ve just sent a blown RX7 FD3S to Poland and the chap is dropping a TT Supra lump into it. How would the handling be on that i wonder considering how light the 13B engine is and also how far it\'ll be sat back in the bay compared to the much longer 3000cc Sup engine??
Dave.

Have you weighed a TT 13b ? I removed mine and the engine with all its ancilliaries (turbo bits etc.) weighs a frickin\' tonne. One thing it\'s not is light.

Prob with the 2JZ is that it\'s cast iron so weighs more than, and is 50% longer than the other option, e.g. all-alloy LSx, and as for how far back the LSx sits:



2jz is a great engine. I have one in my TT sup, and my last TT sup too, but I\'m liking the LS2 a lot.

carl0s

Ooops. Looks like I resurected a historic thread. I was using the search engine ..


rx-dave

Quote from: carl0s;648112Have you weighed a TT 13b ? I removed mine and the engine with all its ancilliaries (turbo bits etc.) weighs a frickin\' tonne. One thing it\'s not is light.
 
Prob with the 2JZ is that it\'s cast iron so weighs more than, and is 50% longer than the other option, e.g. all-alloy LSx, and as for how far back the LSx sits:
 

 
2jz is a great engine. I have one in my TT sup, and my last TT sup too, but I\'m liking the LS2 a lot.

I haven\'t weighed one lately if i\'m honest! The Supra engine must weigh twice as much and as you pointed out is longer so it sits much further forward so i\'d have  thought the handling would be pretty poor? All that said i still love the GTR engined RX7 :burnout
Dave.

Timmy

A 13brew is about 180kgs and a 2jzgte is about 260kgs thats almost 50% more; not to mention the weight is much further fowards.

BlitzBoy

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BlitzBoy

Although some guys in Oz say a fully dressed 13b rew is 148 kilos
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

overboost

I don\'t really see the problem of putting a great relible engine into a well balanced FR sports car. It is a shame Nissan didn\'t make a Silvia with an RB26 anyway. Hell I even thought about putting a RB26 in my E46 M3 but just adding the list of parts and their cost gives me a huge headache.
 
Hybrid creates some amazing cars:
 
K20A Elise;
B18C Mini;
F20C AE86 or E36;
V12 R34;
etc etc etc...
 
I am actually glad some one had the balls and money to do it. After all we all want our cars to be a little bit special. That\'s why companies like Top Secret often do some strange \'down grade\'  engine swaps like 3S-GTE Supra and VQ35 GTR.
 
The only thing I don\'t like about this car is: why do the yankees feel necessary to put the cheating gas on every single otherwise prefect car?

carl0s

Quote from: Timmy;648142A 13brew is about 180kgs and a 2jzgte is about 260kgs thats almost 50% more; not to mention the weight is much further fowards.

So the solution is an LS2 V8 :driving

SiH

Quote from: overboost;648832I don\'t really see the problem of putting a great relible engine into a well balanced FR sports car.

There isn\'t at all.
But putting an RB26 into an FD isn\'t that :D

The RB can be pretty highly strung, and the wieght districution of the block is nowhere near what it is with the 13b. You take out a low slung, short engine, an replace it with a long, heavier engine that has to be mounted higher and further forward.

russellparkerx

Clearly the Americans wouldn\'t know why this is a bad idea.  No corners.
 
Why was the FD RX7 special?
 
Not least because...
 
1. VERY light
2. Rotary technology
3. Sequential turbos
4. Great weight distribution (engine behind the front axle etc)
 
So which of these factors remains once you\'ve stuck an RB26 in?
 
None.
 
But a properly converted 20b?  With the shortened driveshaft and proper revised geometry?
 
All.

SiH

Quote from: russellparkerx;649873Clearly the Americans wouldn\'t know why this is a bad idea.  No corners.
 
Why was the FD RX7 special?
 
Not least because...
 
1. VERY light

Bit of a common misconception this one - it\'s not actually super light - it\'s the same sort of weight as a lot of it\'s peers :)

It\'s where the weight is that is the key part - low and far back, as you say :)