my rebuild thread

leeincivic · April 05, 2009, 12:43:19 PM

ola!!!

right after driving my car round on standard ports and and 470fwhp it has finally given up the ghost:( i knew it was coming but i hoped it would not be needed till next year,

anyways the other week i gave it some stick and when i cam to a stp it was running mega lumpy, it felt like it was a tractor basically! also i noticed the oil catch tank was full of water?

so i decided to go for a rebuild and started to strip the engine down

it was a cold night without a duvet!! haha

all i had was some old rope and when it got near to a good height to pull it out it started creaking!!!! was mega scary!!! haha

think i missed a bit when i painted the bay the other month!! haha anyways it ooooot!!!!

right on to the things i found when stripping the block (ps big thanks to lindop for getting the crank nut off:Thumbs-up)

i dropped the oil pan to find this lot along with alot of metal filings, i was baffled to say the least

then after some hunting when the block was totally stripped i found the offending item!! it has one in the other side but this pic shows the threaded hole where the oil pan find should be?

?? anyone else had this problem?

and also one of my housings is mega fooooked!!!! (note the deep scrape? think this was casued by massive failure of the apex seals, 2 out of the 3 came out in bits!!!!

i also noticed that i was missing 1 corner seal spring and that the front rotor had 2 piece apex seals and the rear did not?

anyways feel free to help me figure out wtf went wrong?? ha:Laugh

jackaleks · April 05, 2009, 01:34:49 PM

Quote from: leeincivic;596308ola!!!

i also noticed that i was missing 1 corner seal spring and that the front rotor had 2 piece apex seals and the rear did not?

maybe whoever had it before you did a diy rebuild :rollin

leeincivic · April 05, 2009, 01:57:19 PM

thats my thoughts and a crap one at that! ha

DR SCHNITZEL · April 05, 2009, 10:33:37 PM

Wowzers lee that did give up on ya didnt it. Have you figured what happened then?

karl_tate · April 06, 2009, 07:40:52 PM

looking good mate, hope you find out what happened, could be a number of things though.

so what are the plans then??

leeincivic · April 06, 2009, 08:06:52 PM

Quote from: DR SCHNITZEL;596413Wowzers lee that did give up on ya didnt it. Have you figured what happened then?

negative ghost rider!! lol

Quote from: karl_tate;596655looking good mate, hope you find out what happened, could be a number of things though.

so what are the plans then??

big vastness where money used to be, big ports, big boost, big grin haha

the plans at the min is that am gonna spend some time tryin to figure out what the hell happened and also clean everything up and get it all nice so i dont have to pick it up with 3 layers of gloves on! lol

am defo gonna take my time tho and get everything as i want it first time so its gonna be a long process me thinks, plus am gonna have to get bits as i get dollars, just hoping that my end plates are re-usable to keep some sort of costing down, the housings are knackered tho so will make a nice mantle piece item:Giggle

anyone have any ideas where i could get an oil nozzle for the ecc shaft? (the piece that ended up in the sump)

karl_tate · April 06, 2009, 08:15:16 PM

stick it all in the dishwasher, although i got my dad to put mine through a shot blaster, i have a housing with a rotor inside it as a mantle piece but it didnt stay there for long :rollin

so are you going to be rebuilding it your self or getting some one to do it??

yeh, no point doing things twice, well thats the way i think anyway and non of this, that will do lol, i got a bit carried away with mine though

just ask some of the vendors for the nozzle.

leeincivic · April 06, 2009, 08:20:45 PM

yeah your rebuild thread is awesome, gonna be doin a bit of a wire tuck but nothing as extreme as yours,

cant afford these at the minute like you can http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=4 haha

up to now am gonna rebuild it myself but am considerin what my options are i.e. renew parts and do it myself or buy built engine to my specs off hayward or dragon, wanting large streetport so not to easy to come by as a built block,

might just settle all my worries and bang a disease-al engine in it! haha

karl_tate · April 06, 2009, 09:20:26 PM

cheers mate, its been quite a big project, was only going to replace the engine :Giggle

brass balls :rollin :rollin

i was going to rebuild it my self but then though, what am i thinking, its my first experience with rotaries. pistons engine, ok but i wanted piece of mind.

doesnt take long to strip the motor down though does it lol

DIEsel ftw :p

leeincivic · April 13, 2009, 10:35:13 PM

no mate it dont, took about half hour to strip it after getting the uber tight shaft nut off, and also crap loadsa pics so i know how to put it back together,

takin some of your knowledge tho karl and am gonna be moving some of the fuse boxes from out of sight, not gonna go to the extremes as you tho coz am scared!! ha

well last week just consisted of me degreasing everything i have removed and getting it all semi clean to check for damage, borrowed a degreasing bath off my mate and what a handy bit of kit it is!!!!

started off like this

and finished like this after 10 mins of cleanin with a brush:chat

and then i have started this weekend with stripping down the engine harness coz all the old sheething (spell???) was falling to bits in my hands

started off looking like this, all covered in oil with plastic covering just snappin off

and ended up with this :xconfused not as bad as it looks, also removed the unused connectors from going single turbo, anyone see any connectors av left on by mistake?

oh and this is the mass of crappy oem conduit and tape etc etc that took 4 hours to rip off:Laugh

DR SCHNITZEL · April 13, 2009, 11:00:35 PM

can i have your harness lee lol?

karl_tate · April 14, 2009, 05:43:37 PM

looking good mate.

what did you use to degrease everything?? has come up really well.

it goes all brittle and just falls off doesnt it, crappy stuff, i found it easier to get them all plugged in the ones i needed and then just chopped the rest out but having the loom laid out would of been an easier approach lol

slingo · April 14, 2009, 06:33:21 PM

what are you going to use for trunking the wires ? i was wondering if theres somthing to use thats good with heat ? nice work btw :Thumbs-up

leeincivic · April 14, 2009, 10:43:17 PM

Quote from: karl_tate;598958looking good mate.

what did you use to degrease everything?? has come up really well.

it goes all brittle and just falls off doesnt it, crappy stuff, i found it easier to get them all plugged in the ones i needed and then just chopped the rest out but having the loom laid out would of been an easier approach lol

haha yeah it is really crappy stuff when ya start pickin it out eh!! i was however to stupid and keen to rip the engine out that i forgot to mark everything up that was not connected! haha

as for the degreaser i got it off me mate and it was already full so unsure what he filled it with, it does however smell very very similar to that gunk engine degreaser:yes

Quote from: slingo;598980what are you going to use for trunking the wires ? i was wondering if theres somthing to use thats good with heat ? nice work btw :Thumbs-up

i used a company with good recommendation from karl on his rebuild thread^^^^ (cheers matey :Giggle)

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/sleeving/sleeving.php#conv

its got absolutely everything that you could possibly need, i am just gonna use the flexible convoluted tubing as hopefully once its all back in it will never ever come back out thus never notice problems caused by heat lol

slingo · April 14, 2009, 11:11:44 PM

sweet thanks i will store this site it looks handy