HELP!!! water leak from block!!

Started by L18M, November 15, 2008, 01:36:12 PM

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L18M

Hey hey,

So a little background. did a coolant change and since then my fc keeps overheating!
checked water pump, belts etc and finally jacked the car up to look for the leak. seem the leak is coming from somewhere between the eccentric shaft and the shaft for the fan.
not enough space to poke my head in there to have a look but definitely leaking around that area. can see water dribbling out.

anyone know how to fix this or is this quite a big problem:3Confused

cheers for reading.
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grinder

at the front of the engine ??

it SOUNDS like your water pump is shot and its weeping out of the bleed hole

supposed to be really hard to see it though ???


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Gotta agree with Stu,

Only way you will pobably see properly is to take the pulley of and if need be use a mirror to see under the nose of the pump where you will find a small hole.

If you can see it and you have a stain line runing out from the hole, the water pump gland is dead
All the best Clive

L18M

thanks for the replies =)
well.. can see water comming out somewhere but nt sure if its from the weep hole.. thought it might be just the gasket but... not.
 
so who\'s got a good condition water pump..? lol
or better to buy new?
 
if the water pump is shot then, it a bit strange how when i press the acc pedal can hear water swoshing waboutin the enigne bay.
i guess better to replace water pump n be safe than botch job it only for the engine to go pop!
 
grinder: yes its from teh front. somewhere behind the pulleys
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Prof

^^^ What they said ^^^
 
This isn\'t too bad a job do to Liam - you might want to have a go at this yourself :)
 
I suggest a new water pump - they aren\'t too expensive, and get both gaskets, if you move the pump housing whilst refitting the front bit with the pump impeller the smaller gasket at the back can split.
"Plus this engine is probably one of the most volumetric engines going! It passes more air than a herd of cows eating vindaloo\'s" - courtesy of AtomicRex


L18M

Quote from: Prof;554853^^^ What they said ^^^
 
This isn\'t too bad a job do to Liam - you might want to have a go at this yourself :)
 
I suggest a new water pump - they aren\'t too expensive, and get both gaskets, if you move the pump housing whilst refitting the front bit with the pump impeller the smaller gasket at the back can split.


i was looking at the haynes bible n looks ok but jus very time consuming lol
any ideas on price for new water pumps?
my dad said was like 150ish - 200.

think i\'ll fit my twin pulley also while the alt is off lol
tho need to get this done asap as i feel disabled being in the countryside with no car!!
hav to wait an hour for a bus!!!! =\'(
plus a 10 mile bus ride cost me 5.60ukp!!
petrol in my rex dont cost that much!! haha
cheers =)
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Prof

I\'ve seen them on ebay for £60 including gaskets - but that\'s form US - so you can add another £30 to get here.
 
I\'d try the vendors on the site - see what they\'ve got, and then after that try Mazda themselves - they\'d not be too bad on the gaskets - not sure about the pump.  Main problem is getting the fan off, after than it\'s just 8 or 9 bolts.
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philiwily

Quote from: BBCFC;554855i was looking at the haynes bible n looks ok but jus very time consuming lol
any ideas on price for new water pumps?
my dad said was like 150ish - 200.

think i\'ll fit my twin pulley also while the alt is off lol
tho need to get this done asap as i feel disabled being in the countryside with no car!!
hav to wait an hour for a bus!!!! =\'(
plus a 10 mile bus ride cost me 5.60ukp!!
petrol in my rex dont cost that much!! haha
cheers =)

I fitted mine today on my FD don\'t Know if its the same pump, pretty easy job. Pump cost me £120 for a Blue print there was cheaper on Ebay but you never Know how rubbish they are.

Phil

antnicuk

if you get a new water pump and gaskets, bring it round and i will \'help you change it\' its definately gonna be the pump and its easy to do. It will cost you a small drink.  I\'m in essex, so as long as you arnt in south london, its not too far.
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

That\'s the way to do it! :Thumbsup!


L18M

Quote from: antnicuk;554948if you get a new water pump and gaskets, bring it round and i will \'help you change it\' its definately gonna be the pump and its easy to do. It will cost you a small drink.  I\'m in essex, so as long as you arnt in south london, its not too far.

i\'ve decided to get from mazda dealer (if they have) as need it fixed asap! plus as mentioned some ebay stuff u nt sure what you getting.

thakns for the offer but the car is in somerset and:
a) i dunt think the fc will manage a trip to esssex without fillin up at least twice [both petrol AND water] lol
b) gonna stupidly attempt this myself =) hope i wont do moare damage than good lol

thanks for all the advice. will let u kno when its done n if i caused more damaged than fixing it lol
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antnicuk

your location is shown as london,     if you need me to talk you through how to do it or get any problems, pm me and i will give you my phone number
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

That\'s the way to do it! :Thumbsup!


L18M

lol, yeh i was in london but now back in street (somerset). will keep in mind thanks very much =)
actually, just in case might be gd idea to grab ur number jus incase sth stupid happens lol

cheers

ps im liking ur new \'toy\' =)
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L18M

a lil bit of an update. after some tinkering n questioning. new pump cost 280ukp! so as mine seems to be moving still i ordered a new water pump seal n gasket n another alt belt for my twin alt pulley. parts arrive from brussels in about 5 working days.

anyone got any good ideas how to loosen the 4 nuts holding the fan in? the shaft keeps moving so kinda hard to unbolt whilst it moves. =(

also do you need ot take the fan shroud off to take the fan out?
what is the best way to put the alt belts on as its really tight fit. hav to take the alt out to squeeze the belts on.

cheers
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grinder

the fan shroud - yeah that took me a while to get off - its just arkward

i took the fan off mine - just cant think how i did it though

once the shroud is off and the fan out - you will be shocked at how much space there is in there !! :D

im sure the fan on mine came off dead easy ??? only thing i can think off is to use 2 spanners - one to hold it still - the other to loosen the nuts


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L18M

Quote from: grinder;556760the fan shroud - yeah that took me a while to get off - its just arkward

i took the fan off mine - just cant think how i did it though

once the shroud is off and the fan out - you will be shocked at how much space there is in there !! :D

im sure the fan on mine came off dead easy ??? only thing i can think off is to use 2 spanners - one to hold it still - the other to loosen the nuts

haha.. so is that a yes you have to take the shroud out to get the fan out?
i seen how much space there can be so though go elec fan but been told the stock fan is really gd. plus think once i get bigger tubby in then i hope i wont need to stick my head under the bonnet much *fingers crossed* but being a rotarty.. THATS NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!! =(
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