Engine\'s been opened, problem found...

Started by FDAsh, October 17, 2008, 05:25:05 PM

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FDAsh

My engine\'s been taken out today and looked at by Pip. Cause of the problems was a stuck side seal on one of the rotors. Doesn\'t end there though. A previous owner has run it dry of oil, and it\'s completely eaten the bearings. I replaced one in Germany, but the front is even worse.

So the knock on effect is that the eccentric shaft is scrap too, and due to the wobble that resulted from knackered bearings, the housings will need to be replaced along with the rotor as it\'s bashed them nicely.

Sooo, starting next week, it\'s rebuild and improve time, new rotors, housings and so forth, hopefully ready mid November for December. A lovely £5k Christmas present to myself I reckon, but not one that I really wanted yet. :rolleyes:

Pics



The rotor has been bashed where the Hand of God is pointing, jammed the seal and allowed combustion gasses past, you can see the carbon trails on the side of the rotor:



This bit has been contacting the housing, wearing both.It\'s possible to rebuild with the housing but it\'s very weakened so might fail again.





You can see the marks travelling horizontally across the housing where the apex seals have been juddering due to the off balance rotation. The bronzing has occured due to someone using synthetic oil at some point, which just adds weight to the case that I\'m paying for some idiot\'s mistakes and neglect.

Also note the wear on the shaft in the first pic.

All in all, I\'m very impressed with the engine though, considering it got me to and from Germany, and around the Ring when I was over there. Can\'t wait to have it all back together and spot on for 2009\'s trip. :Giggle

FDAsh

Of course, if anyone has a brand new warrantied engine with good history for sale, I might be interested in hearing from you.

Particularly if you\'re up in the North West of England...

fil_auto

wow and holy ****e! - fingers crossed your rebuild all goes smoothly bud and you get her back around the time stated! Just in time to run her in and around whilst doing all your chrimbo shopping! Then again I suppose there\'ll not be much left over for that with a 5k bill for the rebuild!!! still.... it\'ll all be worth it..... and will be a lovely rebuild especially in the hands of the legend.........#;o)

FDAsh

I can\'t praise Pip enough for how he\'s been with me. He knows it\'s my first rotary engined car, and takes plenty of time to explain things to me. My parents gave me a lift down there today so I could see the damage and he was happy to go through it with them too.

Would recommend him to anyone.

Oh, yeah, the twin turbos were goosed too. Primary had a good couple of mm in and out play, so the ones I bought a couple of weeks ago won\'t go to waste!

Kevin

Bad luck mate.  I think that is the main problem why these cars get such a bad reputation, properly looked after they can stand up with the best of them, badly looked after..... well.... your pictures say more than I could.

Pip does fantastic work,  I took my car to him for my first rebuild many years ago, unfortunately his prices are not the kindest.  I didnt walk away with much change from £6K for a basic rebuild with street port.

But then again you know you\'ve paid for peace of mind.

Paul-Tll

Re-build, sounds more like a New-build?, bad luck mate, It\'ll be a great, full engine when all done though:wiggle
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FDAsh

Yeah, I always say that you get what you pay for. There\'s no point doing things half arsed with these cars as it\'ll only bite you later on. I\'ll be having other bits done like alu radiator, so the £5k isn\'t so bad considering it\'ll be a completely fresh powerplant by the time he\'s finished.

Expect a post early next year entitled "Gearbox needed" from me :rollin

FDAsh

Cheers Martin, I\'m gathering offers and will weigh up what the best course of action is early next week.

Thanks for that.

mattfduk

Quote from: FDAsh;545564Of course, if anyone has a brand new warrantied engine with good history for sale, I might be interested in hearing from you.
 
Particularly if you\'re up in the North West of England...

got a cosmo re enigine built by pip with 4 k on it ported and dowled, ask pip about it or ring me 07929077185, you can have it now!

Tim_B

Bad luck mate.  Sounds like a big expensive job, but at least it should be sweet when its done :3gears-rh

FDAsh

Quote from: matt724;545638got a cosmo re enigine built by pip with 4 k on it ported and dowled, ask pip about it or ring me 07929077185, you can have it now!
Excuse my ignorance, aren\'t all Cosmo engines triple rotors?

Kash_

Quote from: FDAsh;545731Excuse my ignorance, aren\'t all Cosmo engines triple rotors?

No you can also get 2-rotor engines on the cosmos, their intake design is slightly different to the FD 2-rotor and allow more power and torque from what I\'ve seen :wiggle

Will66

Cosmo Motors have bigger intake manifold runners, which allows greater flow and more power.
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FDAsh

Ahh I see, interesting.

So what\'s the engine code for these engines? Still 13B-REW?