Dyno sheets and discussion for UK Rotaries!

Started by Glenn Butcher, February 11, 2004, 11:46:16 PM

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mx1311

Quote from: Rzla;559082HKS fcon and powerfc, how do you find those two together ? I think you will see a lot more power at more boost with such a big turbo

hks is piggybacked off the powerfc so does all the work, apexi just does things like omp (which i left on) and fans and intank fuelpump

and yes i prob would see more but that is more than enough powers for a road car and occasional track day :wiggle

mx1311

Quote from: BlitzBoy;559079Spill the beans!!!!!

on private chat on the "other forum" :King

dyno graph ill post tom :)

BlitzBoy

cool just checked it fduk a duck he made good power
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

bnaellis

Quote from: BlitzBoy;555484Final mapping has been done on my car and it survived and didnt break whoohoo lol :D
470bhp at the wheels , 555 at the fly at 1.2 BAR boost, so comparing like for like on Reworx dyno with my old configuration have gained 20bhp at less boost (1.5 psi less)
Thank you Geff,Max,Chris at Reworx :D

Do you think maybe your quenching by injecting too much water, as I would of expected more on a big half bridge and t51 combo at that boost?
What ignition system you running ??


rgds

Brian

BlitzBoy

no water Injection being used at the moment otherwise it would have been more power lol
Its been mapped conservatively , running bosch coils, only 90rwhp behind a certain FD thats running more boost anyways :D
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

lee mills

Quote from: BlitzBoy;559089cool just checked it fduk a duck he made good power

 
come on then spill the beans what power did he make

mattfduk

Quote from: BlitzBoy;559298no water Injection being used at the moment otherwise it would have been more power lol
Its been mapped conservatively , running bosch coils, only 90rwhp behind a certain FD thats running more boost anyways :D

Quote from: lee mills;559310come on then spill the beans what power did he make

the clue is in marks post mate, if mark makes 470rwhp then chris makes...

bnaellis

Quote from: BlitzBoy;559298no water Injection being used at the moment otherwise it would have been more power lol
Its been mapped conservatively , running bosch coils, only 90rwhp behind a certain FD thats running more boost anyways :D

What\'s up with the water injection mate you changing system?

rgds

Brian

bnaellis

Quote from: matt724;559313the clue is in marks post mate, if mark makes 470rwhp then chris makes...

Spoke to Tim this morning I thought he said 589 at 1.5 bar but maybe I got it worng and he said 569 instead.


rgds

Brian

BlitzBoy

Quote from: bnaellis;559329What\'s up with the water injection mate you changing system?

rgds

Brian

nope leaving it off for the first meets next year then activating the 50:50 then seeing if there is a real difference in the terminal speed just want to experiment with system on and off. Want to see real world performance figures, be interesting to see
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

bnaellis

Quote from: BlitzBoy;559349nope leaving it off for the first meets next year then activating the 50:50 then seeing if there is a real difference in the terminal speed just want to experiment with system on and off. Want to see real world performance figures, be interesting to see

Things depend on how much your injecting, but obviously you know water doesn\'t burn, then methanol burns slower than pump fuel, so to see any increase in power will be dependant on what your timing & afr is at already. Increase in power is also dependant on the % your injecting.
Don\'t expect to see much if any gain without either leaning your afrs out some and or advancing your timing.


rgds

Brian

BlitzBoy

well yes I will be changing mixture as I did last time, I have a target afr in mind when I start to inject the 50:50, plus I have the summer from AQ to wire up which replaces the FIA2 module
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

bnaellis

Mark could you post your dynosheet so I can compare with mine. I want to see the difference across the between the half bridge and a street port in spool up, overall power band, and peak etc please mate.


rgds

Brian

BlitzBoy

Will do, left my dyno sheets at Eras, I will get him to take pics of them so I can post them up, its amazing that the T51 regardless of street port or half bridge produces the same peak power at the 1.2 BAR the only difference I can see in terms of peak power mine holds on longer, but will post up to compare properly
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

mx1311

what ecu are you running brian?

regards


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