My FMIC + other small things

[L18M]

i remember you saying u got your pulley from ebay. i cant find any from ebay unlesss in looking the wrong way lol

if u run your fc on an fd alt, what are the benefits?
do u still have the sellers name on your list?

thanks

I got my pulley off eBay - seems to be fine - came from a guy in the US who not only does dual alt pulley, but a dual pulley for use with FD alternator as well.  Was about £30 shipped - so cheaper than Atkins and Mazdatrix who sell for $50 but then there shipping is about the same

[Prof]

i remember you saying u got your pulley from ebay. i cant find any from ebay unlesss in looking the wrong way lol
 
if u run your fc on an fd alt, what are the benefits?
do u still have the sellers name on your list?
 
thanks

It was a user called Banzaitoyota.
 
Banzai Rotary Toys is his shop - doesn\'t look like he\'s got the FC/FB pulles in at the mo, but he has the FD alternator one in stock:
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RX-7-DUAL-BELT-FD-ALT-PULLEY-for-FCInstallation_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262QQcategoryZ33573QQihZ002QQitemZ120290560693
 
as for the benefits - it\'s a newer unit and runs slightly higher amperage, there is a thread on the 1300cc.com site about fitting one and the hassles he had.

[pdtaylor18]

Got mine from Banzai as well but got the blanking plates as well.  Just go on the US Ebay, you are sure to find them or do a search for their website.  
Here you go  http://www.banzai-racing.com/

[L18M]

thanks for the link.

pete, are you running an fd alt also?

doesn\'t look like the have the alt pulley on the site but will email them.
unsure if i want to go with fd alt or fc alt.
maybe fd alt will be better as im running 2 amps for ICE, tho will try to DIY it if i go that route :3Confused

Got mine from Banzai as well but got the blanking plates as well.  Just go on the US Ebay, you are sure to find them or do a search for their website.  
Here you go  http://www.banzai-racing.com/

[pdtaylor18]

Just stick with the FC pulley as otherwise you will need to change all the pullies to the flat multi-ribbed type.  The two belts are completely different being that the FC is v shaped.  I am running/will run the V shaped FC alt pulley and belt.

If you do go down the FD route for alterator then bear in mind your Fuse rating at the main fuse box by the front coil pack.  I have had some rated at 80 amps and 100 amps.  Not sure why and cant even remember what main fuse it was for, i will check for you.

[TeamTotalWankel]

I found this one when looking for similar if it helps?
 
http://www.rotaryinnovation.com/new_products1.htm

[L18M]

i came across that site before but seemed bit questionable.
i\'ve ordered it now along with block off plates from the site pete gave me.

I found this one when looking for similar if it helps?
 
http://www.rotaryinnovation.com/new_products1.htm

[L18M]

has anyone one else here fitted a fmic to their TII?
i think the boost is slightly higher now (but without a boost gauge im not entirely sure, can only judge from teh stock gauge) but i kno that the BOV is not as loud as prior to fitting the fmic.
does anyone know why? or is it due to the fact that there is less pressure due to the higher volume of air that the fmic can take?
 
i think my cold start has gone ka-put as when i start the engine i have to step on the gas to get the engine fully running else it goes ka-put.
the idle also varies quite a lot, either too much or too little

on a good note the short shift is really nice to use, bit clunky at times n hard to get into gear but i think thats due to my clutch, or lack of clutch :rollin

[BenLewisMav]

Hi Liam,
I had the same experience with the BOV being quieter after fitting the FMIC, and yes, I believe it is due to the slower rate that the larger volume of air held in the IC + piping expands.

With the idle and cold start issues, it really is best to try get a standalone ecu or at least a piggyback (greddy emanage being a good value choice).
As you know, the stock ecu (or even remapped/knightsport/etc ecu) has some flexibility, but changing the airflow characteristics and density (enhanced charge cooling through a larger IC = denser air), especially after the airflow meter, has adverse effects. They can be potentially engine damaging (Which is why I said to not push it too hard yet).

You might be able to do a few fixes to get the car running nearly as normal on the stock ecu (as I had to previously), but these really are just a band aid, stealing hp and potentially endangering your engine! a few hundred pound on engine management is probably the best money you\'ll spend on your car. Its also an investment, as it can be adjusted to match the mods you intend to do on your car, aswell as doing a pretty good job of retaining its value should you decide to sell it later on. (aswell as unleashing hp you never knew you had -without changing anything else!)

And you will learn the art of the heel-and-toe double-declutch downshift with the shoft shift kit . -And then you will wonder how you ever coped changing down so slowly before.

[Prof]

Just stick with the FC pulley as otherwise you will need to change all the pullies to the flat multi-ribbed type. The two belts are completely different being that the FC is v shaped. I am running/will run the V shaped FC alt pulley and belt.
 
If you do go down the FD route for alterator then bear in mind your Fuse rating at the main fuse box by the front coil pack. I have had some rated at 80 amps and 100 amps. Not sure why and cant even remember what main fuse it was for, i will check for you.

Pete - there is a pulley kit for use with the V belts and an FD alternator - but the alternator itself is a \'snug\' fit apparently

[L18M]

i love the short shift!! thought hard to get in some gears at times (think more to do with either clutch or gearbox) i tried to double declutch the other day but feels really weird n not used to it... yet!!
bit more time n will be 2nd nature.
heel n toe i can do ok though.

ideally i wanna get an apexi pfc but not sure if i can souce one any time soon. i know you can use a fd PFC in an FC with the use of a harness. have anyone tried this combo?
im assuming that if you have a PFC or similar then you dont need a AFC?

think tuning wise im thinking if i cant find a PFC then go for bigger turbo with uprated fuel pump and using an AFC and AVC-R to tune. would that be any good?

(Im too impatient to wait n find a PFC!! lol)
\'MORE POWER MORE POWER\' i say

oh finally (i know this is loong but its all about learning) but other than removing the air pump and ACV what other crap is not need in the engine bay and can be taken out?

[Prof]

think tuning wise im thinking if i cant find a PFC then go for bigger turbo with uprated fuel pump and using an AFC and AVC-R to tune. would that be any good?
 
(Im too impatient to wait n find a PFC!! lol)
\'MORE POWER MORE POWER\' i say
 
oh finally (i know this is loong but its all about learning) but other than removing the air pump and ACV what other crap is not need in the engine bay and can be taken out?

You\'d probably get away with AFC / AVC-R, but it\'s less than ideal - be patient and get a PFC - or you might end up in my club :Nono!

[pdtaylor18]

You should have had a good hard look at Furbs engine bay at the RS5. His is about as simplicistic as you can really hope for.  I have taken some close up pics, when i can i\'ll send them to you. If you look at my project thread then that too has almost gone similar routes but i have kept the rats nest as a just in case.  However I may well change my mind and get rid of it completely. If you are running decat then get rid of the airpump and associated crap that goes with of it.  I think you need to be very careful with what you do, do the research and get to know the engine, what all the bits do and when and truely understand how they all relate to one another.  When you understand then you will know what you can do and what you cant do.  Its all been tried and tested so many time and the pitfulls are there in very big bold stories of rebuilds and blown engines etc.  Research and not wasting money is the whole key. You need to map out how far you want to go and how much your engine will reliably take, its not a fresh engine rebuild so you must factor this in at all times.

[BenLewisMav]

You\'d probably get away with AFC / AVC-R, but it\'s less than ideal - be patient and get a PFC - or you might end up in my club :Nono!

-2nded. An Apexi AFC is just another band-aid solution, had one fitted to my car originally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQs76AwDd4Y) and its full adjustment range made hardly any difference. I think it\'s aimed more at N/a, Honda, etc owners who want to get the most out of their exhaust, induction kit and maybe mild cams setups.
I wouldn\'t trust them on something as big as a larger turbo, probably wouldn\'t even trust them on the stock turbo running 12psi.

Unfortunately its false economy to think that little add-ons like this will save money if you plan larger upgrades later. Really a proper standalone or full featured piggyback is the way to go, It\'ll improve your power, driveability, reliabilty, fuel economy and will never stop being useful when you want bigger power later.

If price is the problem you can get a solution like this;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/greddy-emanage-blue_W0QQitemZ280256513477QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280256513477&_trkparms=72%3A636%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Which isnt much more expensive than an AFC, and not a great deal more work to fit. (Dave uses an Emanage Ultimate)
Of course the attraction of the Power FC is it\'s Plug n Play ability.

[Prof]

-2nded. An Apexi AFC is just another band-aid solution, had one fitted to my car originally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQs76AwDd4Y) and its full adjustment range made hardly any difference. I think it\'s aimed more at N/a, Honda, etc owners who want to get the most out of their exhaust, induction kit and maybe mild cams setups.
I wouldn\'t trust them on something as big as a larger turbo, probably wouldn\'t even trust them on the stock turbo running 12psi.
 
Unfortunately its false economy to think that little add-ons like this will save money if you plan larger upgrades later. Really a proper standalone or full featured piggyback is the way to go, It\'ll improve your power, driveability, reliabilty, fuel economy and will never stop being useful when you want bigger power later.
 
If price is the problem you can get a solution like this;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/greddy-emanage-blue_W0QQitemZ280256513477QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280256513477&_trkparms=72%3A636%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Which isnt much more expensive than an AFC, and not a great deal more work to fit. (Dave uses an Emanage Ultimate)
Of course the attraction of the Power FC is it\'s Plug n Play ability.

I know of people who have successfully used the blue emanage on FC\'s, but the Ultimate has some extra tricks up it\'s sleeve - independant sizing of Primary and Secondary Injectors - add/cut fuel in injector map (no messing with Airflow map), advance/retard timing, and independant control of leading/trailing spark.  Also has water and inlet air correction maps, acceleration adjustment maps (injection and ignition) - and there are spare outputs to control additional injectors, relays (for electric fan), WI etc.  It\'s almost as capable as a Power FC - but it isn\'t plug and play.  Howerver, I\'ve documented everything I\'ve done so far to get the thing to work, and it\'s been in the car 2 weeks, without being mapped and running fine - it was my taking the stock ECU to the limit of RPM/Boost that almost certainly cost me the engine - which is why I wouldn\'t rely on the stock ECU or some band aiding.