Swirl Pots - whose got one fitted - where from etc?

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clive

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All the best Clive

DRAGON


clive

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Quote from: cliveGood responsible answer from a car builder
Dont be a plonker Rodney!


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All the best Clive

AtomicRex

He who lives by the sword usually dies by it.....he who plays with fire usually gets burnt.

There is no point in treating this like a game....its not!  All it does is bring the sport into problems and get the nimby\'s out in arms.

Its like racing, you don\'t mess with fuel, you have a fire system, electrical cut outs, roll cage, wear fireproof overalls, boots helmet, gloves.  And basically comply with everything the blue book demands.  Its not just yourself you are affecting, its those around you as well.  Even if you take a risk which ends in you dieing in a ball of fire....some poor paramedic has to come and box you up, not very nice for them.

clive

Sorry all,

Something I feel quite passionately about, and as a responsible car club I feel we should present ourselves to the world as such.

I said this a while ago,

When I was racing as a warning we were shown film of a guy dieing in a banger racer at Northhampton,

The tank had ruptured in the car and the whole interior was ablaze, the guy tried to get out of the window but got caught up in his belts and had to get back in the car to free himself, apparently he actually died of a heart attack rather than the burns.

Ross you have told us you only cruise MRC to get your funnys,jollys or whatever, trouble is this one ain\'t funny!
All the best Clive

andysmee

Alright, leave it!
 
Honestly, I can\'t see anyone interpreting Ross\' comment as advice. Chill out man.

AtomicRex

I disagree with you about chilling.  There are too many cars put out on the road with swirl pots mounted in the boot.  This is usually on the pretence that they do it in Japan so thats OK.  Well frankly some of the racing they do in Japan is awfully managed, there are unnecessary deaths due to a lack of care.

This isn\'t funny as Clive points out, but the problem is that there are a lot of implied experts on this forum, and people listen to them.....in some cases rightly but other cases blindly.

Those people who enjoy driving their cars or haven\'t the time to prep their cars and need an expert to do the work trust their judgement...This becomes serious when it is potentially life threatening.

sadgoth

As AtomicRex has said, while it may have been a throwaway comment, it is a very serious issue, any way we can reduce the risk of serious injury or death through fuel fires should be highlighted and pointing out the risks of having fuel systems in the passenger compartment is one way to do this. Yes it may look cool having a swirl pot on show in the boot, but you don\'t look so cool in a burns unit do you? Even if you aren\'t taking the car on the track an it is a styling thing, you get rear-ended and it is one more risk to add to the mix.

Let\'s keep this thread on track shall we? The topic was who has a swirl pot, what do we know about them and where from? Let\'s not allow this to degenerate into irrelevance eh? Mark was asking a valid question and I suspect as he is considerong installing one he needs good advice.
Mark
89 Black FC3S Turbo II
1/2 Bridge port   Microtech LT10s   TII Conv Aluminium Bonnet & Leather seats   Koni Shocks Pi Springs   De-catted 3" exhaust  
GT4088 turbo   Walbro fuel pump   1000cc injectors   custom V-Mount   Blitz Boost Controller (ok so the boost controller is still to fit)

Loud? Hell yes! :D

andysmee

Alright, alright, my point was that both Clive and John had made the point twice already, surely there comes a time when saying it for a third time is just argumentative.
 
We not fffing idiots you know.

M@r]{

Against the advice given to me from Mark to keep out of it .....

Why, if it is such a serious issue, which I believe it is particularly in the light that Mark will be fitting one at some point, was it necessary for a response to an off the cuff remark be loaded with such sarcasm?

I\'ve seen this before and it starts arguements like this one, puts people on the defensive and makes people feel almost afriad to have their say.

Mark sorry, but people on here always seem to miss the \'catalyst\' comments that cause arguements, and perhaps as an outsider (in terms that I don\'t own an RX7 myself) I see a differing, more balanced perspective as to why arguements are so easily caused??

Mrs Mark
Cheryl

sadgoth

i think the answer to that Cheryl, is that it is an issue which some people have strong feelings about. Simple as...
Mark
89 Black FC3S Turbo II
1/2 Bridge port   Microtech LT10s   TII Conv Aluminium Bonnet & Leather seats   Koni Shocks Pi Springs   De-catted 3" exhaust  
GT4088 turbo   Walbro fuel pump   1000cc injectors   custom V-Mount   Blitz Boost Controller (ok so the boost controller is still to fit)

Loud? Hell yes! :D

DRAGON

Hi, Mrs Ross here,
I know its sad that I hang out on a rotary forum, but to be honest I have no life of my own and have to invade my boyfriends man time to keep an eye on him.
Anyway, have you considered that the Only fools and Horses comment was simply another way to look at the problem, and in this nanny state that we live in, were everything seems to be banned because it is \'deemed\' to be dangerous. The quote has some relevance to the swirl pot issue? Or is that beyond your comprehension?
Are they really that dangerous? Think about it for yourself, instead of jumping on the its so dangerous, ban them, ban them!!!
In summary, sorry if my lover has offended you by a different view point, put across using a quote form 80s sitcom.
Mrs Ross.
Gertrude x x

sadgoth

Ross (or Gertrude when you are wearing the dress ;) ) , no-one said ban them, just choose the right place to put them. Having had a bit of a near death experience yourself recently I\'m assuming you will be using a stronger housing for you tranny on the drag car? That is a safety issue as is the placement of a swirl pot surely?
Mark
89 Black FC3S Turbo II
1/2 Bridge port   Microtech LT10s   TII Conv Aluminium Bonnet & Leather seats   Koni Shocks Pi Springs   De-catted 3" exhaust  
GT4088 turbo   Walbro fuel pump   1000cc injectors   custom V-Mount   Blitz Boost Controller (ok so the boost controller is still to fit)

Loud? Hell yes! :D

rx jamie

sorry to go off track but... what are the legalities of having a swirl pot in the boot for road use?  the underside of my car is ram jammed pack full of all sorts and i can fit one under ( pulsar).  but the bugger cuts out on left hand bends.  its driving me mad.
my friend uses one in his boot.  he says it his best mod, uses the standard in tank pump as a lift pump and a walbro in line as the feed pump.  lift pump on standard ignition/relay supply and feed pump on manual switch.

pot cost around £70 off ebay, got his foam filled tank off there quite cheap too.

M@r]{

That was a bit harsh!  She was actually on your side of the fence!  

Quote from: DRAGONHi, Mrs Ross here,
I know its sad that I hang out on a rotary forum, but to be honest I have no life of my own and have to invade my boyfriends man time to keep an eye on him.