And i thought i had won! - Cutout problems, cont.

nikp · September 18, 2007, 02:31:52 PM

your logic sounds reasonable. Not sure if i\'ve ever heard of a relay getting stuck half way, so go check out the circuit relay.

Brett · September 18, 2007, 02:58:09 PM

A relay has a mechanical compenent so it is possible, but they should be good for about 50million operations or more.

nikp · September 18, 2007, 03:44:20 PM

It\'s not unknown for relays to fail though either. In operation, they\'re not a million miles away from solenoids, and they fail.

leon · September 18, 2007, 03:57:24 PM

But its back to the intermitant nature of things, It could be a relay with it being so intermitant. something thats teetering on the edge of death. i think i need to check the wireing and give the relays a good look over or just replace them! because how do you test something thats intermitant? :3Confused

m4drx · September 18, 2007, 11:46:12 PM

a friend of mine EVO RAY on here had the same issues cut out dead over and over. a sparky found some immediate problems with the wiring to the ecu and ignition area behind dash. sorted for a while then but kept blowing the extra fuse to the ecu (power) that the sparky had put in.

then the under headlight area caught fire! this was due to wiring for a hid kit going through a metal hole with no grommit and after chaffing for months every time the headlights went up etc it caught fire but luckily he was removing the front splitter just as the blaze started. another fix by the sparky and car is 100% and even been mapped.

leon · September 19, 2007, 11:20:33 AM

So your friends still having problems? Do you know exactly what the cause of the problems were? Or were they just \'problems\' i seem to remember reading about the HID post a while ago. I guess im going to have to face the prospect of potentialy re doing the loom at somepoint, once the more easy accessable parts have been looked at.

i guess what im getting at are they the kind of problems if i run the engine and stick my hand up there and start wiggling around manicaly im bound to either get shocked or the car die?

m4drx · September 19, 2007, 01:26:49 PM

nope all his problems are now solved after the repair to th dodgy wiring to the headlights, it wasnt so much and old loom problem it was what some japanese guy had done when he fitted - Tvs ariels, his kit etc had a ton of excess dodgy wiring thats all. get a good sparky to check it and it should hopefully resolve it if it is electrical.

the way my mate knew it was electrical and not mechanical is everytime it cut out the apexi lost power and turning the ignition on didnt turn the commander on

leon · September 19, 2007, 02:11:21 PM

Ahhh! something like that would make this easyer to diagnose, the only diffrence is my car will start back up stright away.

When the car does go splat the rest of the electrics are running fine, I\'ve just had a thought however i have a knightsports EBS3 in the loop which has its own ecu harness but the wiring last time i had a look was just stright through for most of the ECU and in good condition.

Wonder if its worth spliceing a bulb onto the wire so i can see if that goes dead...

m4drx · September 19, 2007, 11:15:51 PM

Quote from: leonAhhh! something like that would make this easyer to diagnose, the only diffrence is my car will start back up stright away.

When the car does go splat the rest of the electrics are running fine, I\'ve just had a thought however i have a knightsports EBS3 in the loop which has its own ecu harness but the wiring last time i had a look was just stright through for most of the ECU and in good condition.

Wonder if its worth spliceing a bulb onto the wire so i can see if that goes dead...

maybe not a bulb but use a tester on it when it happens. anything at all aftermarket should be a suspect assuming its electric which it seems to be as car runs normaly otherwise.

leon · September 20, 2007, 09:07:33 AM

I think best bet for me is if i replace these relays first. The annoying thing is that the car ran perfectly this morning, i wanted to do a few little diags when it died on me.:Tongue1

Jit · September 20, 2007, 09:16:08 AM

As brett sid before, if it was the fuel pump, i think youd feel it stutter first before it died.
IT does sound more like either a spark related problem (maybe a dodgy coil pack, lead, ignitor or ground for the ignitor).

RemarkLima · September 20, 2007, 09:51:02 AM

Quote from: leonI do however have a HKS Turbotimer that has lost a cap! (but it runs fine, i think) im going to remove this anyway.

Get rid of that ASAP! It sounds like ignition cut, which is exactly what these do

Where about\'s is it? You sure you\'re not kicking it with your leg?

Either way, get that out of the equation IMHO.

leon · September 20, 2007, 09:58:47 AM

it\'s under the steering colum, i\'ll hike it out. The only way it could get knocked would be if i knee\'ed it while changing gear etc. id laugh if all this was caused by a faulty Turbo timer :rolleyes:

RemarkLima · September 20, 2007, 10:51:28 AM

Stranger things have happened!

A mate of mine thought his TVR was playing up all the time, with the throttle sticking sometimes, sometimes not being able to go all the way down and it feeling stangled... He changed the air filter, lubed the linkages, made sure it was all OK, pulling his hair out!

Turned out sometimes he was pushing the floor mats forwards under the pedal and causing all this greif for the want of a couple of mat pins

ianelvar · September 20, 2007, 04:54:48 PM

Do the guages do anything weird when she cuts out? On mine the oil pressure goes particularly crazy if there are electrical problems. The more elctrical gremlins I fix the more stable and reliable it becomes.

Good luck finding your problem.