F**king Emissions,F**king Mot\'s

[rico2k_uk]

agree with brambles point - all i have ever heard is with imports 95 onwards is the issue (95 being slightly grey as may be maybe not type thing)...

[Bramble]

Ok from 01/08/1995 all FD\'s will need a full cat test. Until then ALL JDM imported FD\'s are exempt.

I put it in bold for all the blind gits

[rx7veilside]

i thought that was what i had said
also my v5 only states first used 1995 it doesnt state when in 1995 as i think japan uses different syst to uk

[Bramble]

i thought that was what i had said
also my v5 only states first used 1995 it doesnt state when in 1995 as i think japan uses different syst to uk

Indeed after I had said it already. :Tongue1

[Mave]

Do you guys need glasses or can you not fduking read?

I AM AN MOT TESTER. READ MY ABOVE POST.

There is no grey area its ALL in \'in Service Exhaust Emission Standards for Road Vehicles\' thirteenth edition. I just need to finish reading the appropriate segments thats all. NO JDM FD RX7\'s up until august 95 need an MOT - I CAN GUARANTEE THAT. Its the 95 on cars I am interested in.

Fduk me! So my 1993 JDM doesn\'t need an MoT? Don\'t need to worry about fixing my pilow balls then :rolleyes:

[Jono FD3]

93 is when they started bringing in the cat test, but I think its got to be present on the car if it is 95 on!! You could always bang out the inturnals of the cat... then as far as Mr MOT man is conserned it\'s there on the car!!

Jono

[Eddie]

Hi all I was wondering if someone can help me please,
My Sep  92 regestered FD failed an MOT today on emmision I have
FMIC, decat, hks super dragger, apexi and pfc, no air pump, just changed the oil, plugs, leads, and took it for a blast. (not been mapped yet)

6.93 co failed
1442 h failed
lambada 0.860 failed
I talked to the MOT guy who said he had to check it on the full emmisions test.

I treid to reason with the guy stating imports before 95 only require the 3.5 co test at idle and not fast idle.
He then got out his VOSA book and showed me the page which states any car regestered after aug 92 requires a full test.
I then added yes UK regestered cars need this but I am sure imports do not, can you re check please

He then said he would put it in the computer and what it shows on screen he will have to check against that, he disapeared and i did not see him again till the test was done.

He says if I can get prove he does not need to check the fast idle he will not, anyone know what page in the vosa book its staes imports only need3.5 co so I can point him in the right direction

He would not even let me tweak the PFC to try and get me readings down, but he will next time he says as long as it only requires the idle test of 3.5 co.

Any one help me please

[chrno]

As I have said before,

Use 10litres of gasoline, and about 1-2 litres of ethanol, or as we use in Sweden
isopropanol(don\'t know if it\'s called that internationally) This has given me 0 on Co,and HC,  lambda value will not be changed much, but might be enough for you.

Trust me, this works, people MOT 6-700hp supras,rotaries,skylines and all sorts of tuned cars with this. Without any problems.

[Eddie]

So how to get hold of that today then for a retest tomorrow?

[Bramble]

Hi all I was wondering if someone can help me please,
My Sep  92 regestered FD failed an MOT today on emmision I have
FMIC, decat, hks super dragger, apexi and pfc, no air pump, just changed the oil, plugs, leads, and took it for a blast. (not been mapped yet)

6.93 co failed
1442 h failed
lambada 0.860 failed
I talked to the MOT guy who said he had to check it on the full emmisions test.

I treid to reason with the guy stating imports before 95 only require the 3.5 co test at idle and not fast idle.
He then got out his VOSA book and showed me the page which states any car regestered after aug 92 requires a full test.
I then added yes UK regestered cars need this but I am sure imports do not, can you re check please

He then said he would put it in the computer and what it shows on screen he will have to check against that, he disapeared and i did not see him again till the test was done.

He says if I can get prove he does not need to check the fast idle he will not, anyone know what page in the vosa book its staes imports only need3.5 co so I can point him in the right direction

He would not even let me tweak the PFC to try and get me readings down, but he will next time he says as long as it only requires the idle test of 3.5 co.

Any one help me please

That MOT tester is wrong. If its a 92 import, it doesn not need a full cat test, he is not reading his book correctly. Get him to ring me and ill set him straight as to MOTing early FD\'s. You can get my phone number on my website //www.stertegarage.com  im happy to help people out with this problem as it REALLY annoys me that so many MOT testers cannot understand this information.

[lockwood77]

That MOT tester is wrong. If its a 92 import, it doesn not need a full cat test, he is not reading his book correctly. Get him to ring me and ill set him straight as to MOTing early FD\'s. You can get my phone number on my website //www.stertegarage.com  im happy to help people out with this problem as it REALLY annoys me that so many MOT testers cannot understand this information.

OK, just for absolute clarity for a numpty like me, which of the following is correct?

a) A 92 import (brought into the country 2005) does not require any kind of emissions test;

or

b) A 92 import as above needs to meet a 3.5 CO reading?


If it\'s the latter, it doesn\'t sound like those of us running without cats stand much chance of passing anyway!

[rx7veilside]

ONCE AND FOR ALL TIME
uk car after 92 full mot emissions test incl cat test(must have a cat)

uk car pre 92 emmisions test idle only 3.5c0  no fast idle test

IMPORTS
up to june 1995 mot test 3.5% co no fast idle test
after june 1995 full mot test emmisions and cat have to be present

[Eddie]

Got onto Pip after posting and Pip advise I rang the guy back up and advise he contact the ministry for clarification or I will do it:) as I believe you have performed the wrong test for my car, his reply was you failed the test anyway and would have failed the idle test, I then clarified why it should not have been a full test as my vin was not shown on the database and he should have then followed the rule for the 3.5 co test. To which he agreed (YES getting through now)
The guy still did not cooperate and said I have to show him proof if I want my car testing at idle for 3.5 co I will be contacting the VOSA after the re test, only have to tweak the pim settings to try and get below the 3.5 now as I found this (pic attached) to show as proof so the guy wont do a fast idle test again

Bramble I will be giving the guy your number tomorrow so the tester can talk to you, not sure if he will call though seems like I pay 50 quid and have to supply info for the test he should know about.

Thing is I may not even pass after tweaking the PFC settings so it may all be for nothing, if he would have just le t me play with the PFC the first time I would at least know if I would get near the 3.5 co level I need to pass.
Anyone got any other tweaks (not sure who sells ethanol so looks like that’s out for the short term).

Cheers for your help guys

[chrno]

I still don\'t undestand why you won\'t add a small amount of ethanol to your car..  Is it called something else in England(the thing used in most "green" or hybrid cars nowadays) It\'s soooo easy, and you don\'t have to change anything in your pfc...

Guess it\'s all up to you if you want to do it the easy or the hard way.

[RobbieRX-7]

It\'s not that we dont want to use it. I would love to try it but i don\'t have a clue where to get the stuff from. We only have liquid petroleum gas, diesel and unleaded in our petrol stations.