1 rotor running?

ash · March 27, 2007, 09:12:46 PM

Hi guys,

Well its not good, i took the plugs out dried them off, Egi fue out and cranked it over (only for 15secs). Put the plugs back in, and tuned the key and hey presto - NOTHING, just engine turning over. So i did the same, still nothing. Did the same again it caught but couldnt stay running?? Anyway, decided to get a pull start. It was weird cause at 20mph i released the clutchand the revs rose bu it idnt sound like it was firing???

Well, i tried one more time and it really struggled, then the battery was flat. I only bought a new halfords one 2 weeks ago. So its on charge tonight. I took the plugs out and cranked it for 15 secs until the smoke went. Plugs back in,so will wait until maybe tomorrow/Thursday to try again.

By the way, i am getting really good at changing the plugs now!!

One other question: The bottom leading black plug leads, what would happen if you got them the wrong way round?

If it doesnt start, its new plugs and leads - but the plugs look really new?

Ash

Grizzly · March 27, 2007, 11:19:38 PM

When you turn it over with the Plugs out does it Make Nice loud Pssh Noises?

Also The Main engine loom passes very close to the Front Plugs, have a Quick look if you have knocked a Plug whilst taking the Spark Plugs out.

Another Trick to check if its Electrical is to put an Old (but working) plug in a lead and turn the engine over with a Third party watching for a Spark.

All said i still lay money on its Flooded. I sugest you Take all the plugs out and crank it for a good Minute to clear it well (with the EGI out) then get your self a set of New plugs and try again.

You know you need to Tow a Flooded FD in second with the Clutch out don\'t you? I know it sounds dumb but its not like a Piston engine, you need to let the Clutch out for a good period of time and you\'ll know when its thinking about it becouse it will disapear in a Cloud of Smoke (plus it will do lots of Poping and banging)

I\'d be checking you have the leads on the correct way round too.

ash · March 28, 2007, 09:11:55 AM

Hi Grizzly,

The engine does make that kind of Pssh noise yes, as if its pushing loads of air out the holes - presume this is good then?

I will try it again Thursday night now. I will also check that im getting the spark by doing the plug in lead thing.

When i towed it, i put the car in 2nd, foot down on clutch and then released the clutch is that the right way then?

I have no markings on the bottom spark plugs, they just hang but it seems one is longer than the other so i believe its natural route is to the furthest.

Ash

ash · March 28, 2007, 10:08:39 AM

The insulator (only the insulator) is all black not white but, the electrode and metal outer parts look like this:

(The insulator in this pic is white but mine are black)

Are my plugs fouled??

Ash

Grizzly · March 28, 2007, 01:11:03 PM

Spark plug wise, Don\'t worrie about the Colour too much (oviously carbon won\'t Help matters) you want to look at the electrode in the center, if its Rounded off Bin it and get fresh (they should be Square at the end if there in good order)

Ok Bump starting the car, What i tend to do is while its being towed WITHOUT!! the Ignition on drop the Clutch in second and WOT it (doing about 20-30mph), do this for a Hundred yards or so, You will notice the revs will be alot higher than Cranking in on the Key which will help with Compression and clearing some of the fuel out the exhaust, Now with very little Throttle (if any at all) do the same again but this time Turn the Ign on, You want to be Covering the Clutch at all times (incase it Fires and shoots forwards) It may start poping and banging so if you want to tell if its running or not Dip the Clutch and it will run or die.

Just remember when your Towing it when it fires don\'t panic and hit the Brake becouse one of two things will happen, You\'ll miss and Hit the gass

or you\'ll snap the tow rope :rollin I only say this becouse i\'ve seen it done.

Grizzly · March 28, 2007, 01:13:15 PM

Quote from: ashThe engine does make that kind of Pssh noise yes, as if its pushing loads of air out the holes - presume this is good then?

Its sure helps, Thats Pssh noise is an Indicator that its got enough Comp to start. If there is Nice even Pssh noises (louder the better) you stand a Fighting chance.

ash · March 28, 2007, 01:55:37 PM

Cheers Grizzly, my plugs look a bit rounded so im going to buy some new ones i have decided. Each time i take them out there is fuel and oil all over them, and carbon deposits covering the centre electrode. So i cant see this helping!

The tow start thing was funny, it didnt work but i was being pulled by a 1.5 Nissan Almera which struggled, plus we have some huuuge speed bumps to clear. So battery is on charge tonight as well, so fingers crossed for thursday!

Thanks
Ash

ash · April 02, 2007, 02:13:23 PM

For the sake of people doing searches and having the same symptoms that i have had with the car, i changed the plugs for a set of BUR7EQP in the leading and a set of BUR9EQP in the trailing and the car started first time. Lots of blue smoke but once that had cleared it was running very well!

Thanks to all those that helped!:Thumbsup!