I rest my case! it\'s dodadoodadadad! NUTS

[FD3SNuttah]

lol @ this thread.

I know im going against the grain - how i see it -  perhaps they hit a bump and then it went all over thier lap - then they were looking down and then crash!!!

you would be gutted if the reason someone went into the back of you was because they were eating something

Its easy to say "nothing happened so no foul" but when it does happen say the same thing happened and they killed someone?

Its just not worth it, with the amount of people on the road these days, you cant divert attention for a second.

I suppose that your right we do live in a bit of a nanny state these days, but its probably safer... this is why i can see where the officer was coming from - as always with these stories you dont actually know the full story! so maybe he was weaving all over - didnt admit it to a newspaper?!

[Rixio]

Nas you have gone mad!

[Jono FD3]

That is totaly outragous!! Eating a sandwhich could cause the same distractions as the following:

Scratching your kneck
Scratching your Donger (as you know if you have an itch it must be sorted there or it drives you nuts!!)
Having a fag while driving
Talking to passengers
Looking in the rear view mirrors
trying to stop a wasp flying up your shorts

Are they going to start fining & giving points for all of these???

Stupid!!

Jono

[Crazy Eddie]

Surely the point is they can only do you for what can be seen.
So unless you\'re pulling a moonie out the window whilst scratching your bits you\'re not going to get done!

This guy was eating a sarnie in plain view of a copper so obviously wasn\'t paying full attention to the road or he would have seen the flaming copper in the first place!!!!

Roads are getting more dangerous and so the police have to do something.

If something happened lets say, to one of our cars and the driver was having a swig of his milk as he crashed into it we would all be the first ones to jump on this forum and complain that he wasn\'t concentrating on the road!

The problem seems to be that everybody thinks that their life is the most important, so rather than pulling over to eat for 5 mins in this case he just figured, "oh well I\'m hungry what is the worst that could happen?"
Some of you seem to think the worst is that he got fined, but what if he spilt the thing looked down and hit someone???

Can\'t Poilice everything like radio, passengers etc but lets face it wouldn\'t the roads  be safer if they did?

Just my 2p

[FD3SNuttah]

hey rixio - i might be craazy nuttah - but i aint no fooow!!

see i knew id manage to blag someone onto my side! nice one eddie!

Jono - LOL - when you eat do you look in the mirror - while chatting about something and at the same time have a cig and scratch your balls then try to prevent a swarm of bees going up your shorts? i couldnt think of anything more disgusting than watchin you eat LOL

[Martiny]

I think the discussion , rather than saying whats legal and whats not, is about : whats REASONABLE?

82 mph on a motorway is illegal. But so is stealing my laptop from my luggage. The police fine us for going fast ( when it was safe), but they dont care when you have £1000 plus laptop stolen.

So we have this picture that Kev, who went 82, is FAR more of a criminal that the tw4t who stole my laptop. Thats UNREASONABLE.

[nikp]

I think the discussion , rather than saying whats legal and whats not, is about : whats REASONABLE?

82 mph on a motorway is illegal. But so is stealing my laptop from my luggage. The police fine us for going fast ( when it was safe), but they dont care when you have £1000 plus laptop stolen.

So we have this picture that Kev, who went 82, is FAR more of a criminal that the tw4t who stole my laptop. Thats UNREASONABLE.

Nicely put Martin.

[Crazy Eddie]

I think the discussion , rather than saying whats legal and whats not, is about : whats REASONABLE?

82 mph on a motorway is illegal. But so is stealing my laptop from my luggage. The police fine us for going fast ( when it was safe), but they dont care when you have £1000 plus laptop stolen.

So we have this picture that Kev, who went 82, is FAR more of a criminal that the tw4t who stole my laptop. Thats UNREASONABLE.

Don\'t get me wrong I know that the motorist is an easy target.
But getting your laptop knicked is not going to potentially kill someone is it??
82 in a 70 is only safe if a compitent driver in a modern car is doing it and how can the police know who is a good driver. After all, the only thing they have to go on in that moment that they saw you is that you speed! Now from their way of thinking does that mean that you (not you specifically) also speed past schools at 330pm???
Therfore this is potentially dangerous and could kill someone.
Then what is better? The guy knicking your laptop or the driver that chose the wrong time to speed and killed a family???

Again only my 2p worth (so that makes 4p now )

[Martiny]

Don\'t get me wrong I know that the motorist is an easy target.
But getting your laptop knicked is not going to potentially kill someone is it??
82 in a 70 is only safe if a compitent driver in a modern car is doing it and how can the police know who is a good driver. After all, the only thing they have to go on in that moment that they saw you is that you speed! Now from their way of thinking does that mean that you (not you specifically) also speed past schools at 330pm???
Therfore this is potentially dangerous and could kill someone.
Then what is better? The guy knicking your laptop or the driver that chose the wrong time to speed and killed a family???

Again only my 2p worth (so that makes 4p now )

Well, lets change my argument a little then. So its about safety, is it?

So, its ok then, to :
not signal at roundabouts,
drive right up the back of the preceding vehicle at 70,
change lanes without signalling,
have a dog in the car,
cross the road aywhere you like ( when there is a pedestrian crossing 10 metres away ),
Not stop at red lights if you\'re on a bicycle,

etc, etc, (you get what I mean)

Why dont the fuzz care about any of that? We see this every day, all of us who drive.

We agree on your first statement, the motorist is an easy (money making) target. All I have to do is set up a camera, in the NAME of safety, and watch the bucks roll in.

Actually, stealing a Laptop COULD kill someone, I would be tempted to kill the tw4t who stole it if I ever found him !! :-)

[Crazy Eddie]

Well, lets change my argument a little then. So its about safety, is it?

So, its ok then, to :
not signal at roundabouts,
drive right up the back of the preceding vehicle at 70,
change lanes without signalling,
have a dog in the car,
cross the road aywhere you like ( when there is a pedestrian crossing 10 metres away ),
Not stop at red lights if you\'re on a bicycle,

etc, etc, (you get what I mean)

Why dont the fuzz care about any of that? We see this every day, all of us who drive.

We agree on your first statement, the motorist is an easy (money making) target. All I have to do is set up a camera, in the NAME of safety, and watch the bucks roll in.

Actually, stealing a Laptop COULD kill someone, I would be tempted to kill the tw4t who stole it if I ever found him !! :-)

:rollin Yes I know what you mean about the laptop.
As for the others, tailgating, having a dog in the car (not harnessed or in a cage) and bicycles running red lights are dangerous and illegal and so if the police did spot this they would get fined / cautioned.
The others on your list are anoying but not dangerous and so would not get fined / cautioned.
All about safety

[Nuk Su Kow]

As for the others, tailgating, having a dog in the car (not harnessed or in a cage) and bicycles running red lights are dangerous and illegal and so if the police did spot this they would get fined / cautioned.

But the problem we have is that the police are NOT fining/cautioning these other offences nearly as much as nicking people 12mph over the speed limit and the like.....and to me they are much more dangerous to be brutally honest.
 
I don\'t condone driving at speeds outside schools etc nowever I don\'t agree with nit-pick-nicking either.....
 
"If you see me on your block, call the Police, let the muther fcukers know here comes the beast....." :Thumbsup!

[Crazy Eddie]

But the problem we have is that the police are NOT fining/cautioning these other offences nearly as much as nicking people 12mph over the speed limit and the like.....and to me they are much more dangerous to be brutally honest.
 
I don\'t condone driving at speeds outside schools etc nowever I don\'t agree with nit-pick-nicking either.....
 
"If you see me on your block, call the Police, let the muther fcukers know here comes the beast....." :Thumbsup!

They can\'t fine / caution everybody\'s driving issues they would need thousands more officers.

Lets face it how many times have we all been guilty of speeding and not been caught??? We just don\'t complain about that do we?
"Bloody police I was doing 90 in a 60 and I didn\'t even get fined!!!!!"

[Martiny]

D1 daddy sees my point. if its in the interest of safety, why dont they fine for this other stuff (as often as they do for speeding).

Lets ask this " is it more dangerous to go fast around a corner or on a straight?"

Obviously on a corner... so... have you ever seen a camera on a corner?

Luckily for me, I havent! Its MUCH more fun to go fast around a corner ( and requires skill), than on a straight.

:-)))))))))))))))))

[Nuk Su Kow]

Again:
 

"Bloody police I was doing 90 in a 60 and I didn\'t even get fined!!!!!"

No-one has used this example because, quite rightly, doing 90 in a 60 is a bit OTT.....
 
Getting done for 12mph over the 70mph limit on a clear road is just nit-picking. Unfortunately it\'s never going to be clear cut.....you\'re saying wrong is wrong but what we\'re saying is there seems to be a massive grey area where the Police seem to be getting that wrong.
 
Please don\'t think i\'m saying i\'m a golden boy.....I pretty much rag it whenever I get the chance but two things you gain with getting a high performance car....
 
1) You realise the more BHP you get, the more braking you do :Laugh
and
2) You get fcuking good at spotting the white and blues

[normski]

Common sense, and being reasonable is what it should be all about. We are not chickens, and don\'t have a brain the size of a pea! No Jokes PLEASE! cos I know what some are thinking! :flamed