My Fd sideways at the roundabout

[samfc3s]

i m not 100% sure i got a 2 way...but all the signs hinting it has a 2 way as u prob know my ae86 had a 2 way too.......anyway i will get it checked by wgt nx week


sam

[ScuttleRX]

Probably down to the fact that, at 23 you just haven\'t gotten enough miles in with high performance cars to understand how to approach things. It tqakes a few 100k to settle in properly

But we\'re the gran turismo genereation, been practising since we could hold a joypad

[Gman]

Ended up facing the cental reservation on the A14 when i drove mine back from Scotland - new tyres but heavy right foot, i drive with more respect now!

[bill shurvinton]

Originally posted by ScuttleRX
But we\'re the gran turismo genereation, been practising since we could hold a joypad

In which case you will have no problems loading up an FD, setting the track to wet and practising entering a corner on the brakes with

a) stock car
b) car with very stiff LSD (non-torsens can and will lock under braking)

And see what happens. GT3 is accurate enough that you can play with car setup and get close to real world results with patience.

Aside: Trail braking in the wet is a very aquired art and one I do not have. I remember at le mans in 1994 watching JJ Lehto in the maclaren coming up to the esses. Brakes a glowing (in pouring rain) the inside front would stop rotating for about 1/4 second before he turned in. At the time he was lapping some 11 seconds faster than the rest of the field.

[Dan Norton]

Fappin hell.......in some ways i wish i\'d never had read this thread......i\'m scared sh*tless now:eek:

So when mine comes over, i shall deffo get the tyres sorted and the allignment etc.

Crikey.... only been used to FWD cars.


Dan!!

[scooby_si]

lol tell me bout it i\'m guna be picking my first rear wheel drive car which has not got traction control & a loada BHP in January when it\'s bound to be wet &/or icy
Si (+ the power of fear lol)

[BabyNSX]

Originally posted by samfc3s
i wasnt even bootin it at all....i was just brakin into the roundabout and i just turn and the tail comes out big way........my foot is even not on the gas pedal at all!!!


sam

there\'s your answer then
RX7 is FR car in Gran Turismo terms (front engine / rear drive) which is how cars are supposed to be. Problem is that 30 years ago manufacturers found out it was cheaper to build FF cars instead, so most people have grown up driving FWD cars, like hot hatches etc. Problem is they handle completely differently and you can get away with alot more in a FWD car, such screaming into a roundabout, slamming on the anchors and torque steering through it.
The best way to learn how to drive a RWD car is to learn how to ride a motorbike, as the rules are the same. It\'s all about weight distribution and centre of gravity, as you brake all the weight goes forward, when you need it at the back. Brake in a straight line well before the roundabout and then power through it using smooth progressive motion with both gas and steering. Thats both the fastest and safest way.

[ScuttleRX]

GT3 is accurate enough that you can play with car setup and get close to real world results with patience.

Definately, you learn very quickly that braking mid corner on a FR is not a good idea:)  and benefits of left foot braking, etc..

Not a real world substitute of course but helps build a little knowledge, which is always a good thing.

Now, if only my RX was the same spec as my GT3 one....

[fd3s_rx7]

what do you guys mean jap rubber tire!

[J4P RX]

As 99% of the FD\'s here come from Japan (shipped over), they have japanese tyres on them.

Japanese tyres are rubbish, or rather they just dont work well on UK roads.

Cheers
Lee

[g11ary]

Originally posted by g11ary
either braking to hard, should not be on the brakes in the corner.

and as mr big mouth said, yesterday at brands off the straight into padock 100mph very low formula r\'s on rear had had several scary moments when 2x 360 degrees and into the beach at paddock bend. ripped side skirts off but no damge as such. Note to self, must get new wet tyres. Nice set of the new dunlop sport. And I was braking to hard, slaps that forehead.

[BabyNSX]

best wet tyres (by a long way) are Goodyear F1 Eagles

[g11ary]

I was talking rd legal race tyres not road tyres.
John Yorke and James Baring was with us yesterday, the instructor came over and chatted, took me over the the tyre guy there, apparently follows the rarri and porker clubs to varrious venues, at there request and between the 2 of them edumacateded me on tyres. Left the notes at home, will post them but basically all the stripped out rarris and pokers yesterday (some serious kit) where all using the new dunlop race super sport tyres, great in wet and very good in dry, apparently superseeding the forumlar r\'s myself and several other guys on here using and for dry if you want or can have 2 sets Mich pilots, but crap in wet.
Came accross with some interesting points and gave me a conversion guide from mich, what tyres on what rims how to upgrade in size etc.

Sorry bit of a thread highjack. Sorry.

[GaryS]

Originally posted by g11ary
and as mr big mouth said, yesterday at brands off the straight into padock 100mph very low formula r\'s on rear had had several scary moments when 2x 360 degrees and into the beach at paddock bend. ripped side skirts off but no damge as such. Note to self, must get new wet tyres. Nice set of the new dunlop sport. And I was braking to hard, slaps that forehead.

So I\'m not the only one who\'s gone backwards in to the Paddock gravel :o

Sorry to hear about teh skirts though.

[GaryS]

Originally posted by Dan Norton
Fappin hell.......in some ways i wish i\'d never had read this thread......i\'m scared sh*tless now:eek:

So when mine comes over, i shall deffo get the tyres sorted and the allignment etc.

Crikey.... only been used to FWD cars.

Dan!!

The trick is to quickly learn that the throttle is not an on/off switch and that you can move forwards without flooring it :rolleyes:

I\'ve still got the Jap tyres on mine, and in heavy rain, booting it will cause it to try and drift sligtly to the right, but moving steadilly off and round corners/roundabouts, there\'s no trouble.