FD, just a straight line cruiser??

Grizzly · October 09, 2006, 01:34:04 AM

Buy a Mildly tuned Fd some thing like 300rwhp with decent tyres,Pads and struts

Then let them keep up round a Track in a Mini. You don\'t need 400hp to own all N/A Honda\'s/Mini\'s its not always about power to weight but more about Ballance and CoG and if an FD has been tuned properly it is reliable? its only when you get people bolting on bits and not having the Fueling to cope that problems start to happen. If you buy an FD that has had a Rebuild there is no reason it won\'t last along time if looked after.

People scorn what they don\'t understand.

J.j. · October 09, 2006, 01:53:02 AM

They were on about standard or tuned. FDs are just crap on track full stop :2Confused
The worst thing is that one of them owned one for a short while, then decided it was so ***te at cornering that he sold it :2eek

Jit · October 09, 2006, 07:43:35 AM

it maybe so that an fd is just a straight line cruiser...but where does this leave skylines and supras? Im my experience, skylines (well maybe not r34s nut they got newwer technology) are worse on track as are supras. And how an ITR can own an mildly tuned fd on track i dont understand...

shaunwil · October 09, 2006, 08:00:05 AM

Been out on track a couple of times and you find yourself chasing the super 7\'s, can a mini say it can do that. If the suspension is setup right it goes round a bend like its on rails !

What kind of mini is it, if its a new one they are stupidly slow !

Shaun

Quote from: J.j.They were on about standard or tuned. FDs are just crap on track full stop :2Confused
The worst thing is that one of them owned one for a short while, then decided it was so ***te at cornering that he sold it :2eek

J.j. · October 09, 2006, 08:37:18 AM

QuoteWhat kind of mini is it, if its a new one they are stupidly slow !

not sure, just know its called mini works, some sort of tuned up mini by bmw with 220? bhp :2Confused

Please, can some of you track junkies make it to Donnington on the 11th of Nov? apparently there\'ll be lots of Type Rs (S2000, ITR, ........)
I\'ve been told over and over again that I\'d get my arse kicked by all of them, even by drivers with similar driving skill to me coz I drive a FD:2eek .(hands up, Im rubbish, but I\'ve never taken them out in my car apart from a short cruise one time, so not, they didnt get the ideas from my crappy driving:Hammer :rollin )
Someone please shut them up on track once and for all :cheers

maximtaylor · October 09, 2006, 10:47:01 AM

Theres about five of us going to Donington on the 15th October (this Sunday)?

I think your mates are just trying to wind you up!

Quote from: J.j.Please, can some of you track junkies make it to Donnington on the 11th of Nov?

RemarkLima · October 09, 2006, 01:19:57 PM

Quote from: J.j.What about Brands hatch?
I know a mate who did a 1.01 or 1.00 there in a DC2
FDs ??

I think they must be winding you up, I can get round brands in 1.05 in a standard Mk1 MR2 with 120 bhp and on Yoko A539\'s... Sure it\'s stripped out but still weighs 1040 kg and has cr@ppy McPherson struts.

Now I\'m not the fastest out there by a long way, but the front runners in the racing are putting in 1.02\'s, so would be happily chasing your mate in his DC2 in a car from 1986 with a 1.6 engine

http://www.750mc.co.uk/Racing/results/2006/Brands10-11-06-06/Brands_Hatch_10-11th_June_MR2.pdf

So much circuit speeds comes down to talent! And personally I love the \'ring, but I\'m impressed with peoples times but I\'d never judge anyone on it, it\'s such a dangerous place that just getting round is impressive IMHO!

So for me, I\'m looking forward to getting my FD on the track and giving it some serious abuse

ds2000 · October 09, 2006, 01:35:28 PM

An ITR will not own an FD, its as simple as that.

My prelude vtec gets around every track I\'ve been too quicker than most DC2s, in fact if you look at Honda Revolutions\' forum, you\'ll see how the ITR drivers get upset about the ribbings they get from Lude owners.

My standard FD handled as well as my track prep\'d Prelude so it\'ll be better than the Integra.

As for the S2000.... in standard form they are probably very close.

Tuned, the FD wins evertime

DRAGON · October 09, 2006, 01:45:07 PM

Quote from: maximtaylorTheres about five of us going to Donington on the 15th October (this Sunday)?

I think your mates are just trying to wind you up!

How much is the track time Max?

M@r]{ · October 09, 2006, 01:52:43 PM

I had an S2000 before the FD. Lovely car, fantastic to drive and quite fast as well. But an FD would KILL IT on the track. You wouldnt even put these cars in the same league. I personally didnt think the S2000 had great handling, I found the back end unpredictable. Yeah, the FD can whip the back end out easier, but I find it easier to control. I did regular track days in the S2000 and found for the track it just wasnt all that. I put uprated springs and dampers on mine and took it to a Honda specialist in Daventry to have the suspension set up to try to improve things. It did improve but still not great. Before the S2000 I did have a Lotus Elise, so I suppose I was spoilt for handling, and maybe it isnt quite fair to judge it after coming from an Elise. But going from the S2000 to the FD I felt like I had got the handling of the Elise back. I did an activity day with the Lotus owners club a few months back, it included Caterhams and Elises. I managed the second quickest time on the slalom and pretty sure I got in the top 5 on the top circuit. And remember, the circuit is a tight circuit ideally suited to the Elise, and obviously the slalom obviously suits them well. So anybody who says the FD is just a straight cruiser obviously doesnt know what they are talking about.

and any excuse to post up some pics of said cars

RemarkLima · October 09, 2006, 01:55:36 PM

You didn\'t used to frequent SELOC did you? I\'m sure I recognise that Elise...

Rixio · October 09, 2006, 02:00:47 PM

I have some vids of some supercars and jap cars peggin it out at tsukuba il post them on google video and post the link after they are loaded

P.S If a RX8 can poon a S2000 & DC5 then i think a FD will kill it...

Adriansturgess · October 09, 2006, 02:01:01 PM

Quote from: J.j.They were on about standard or tuned. FDs are just crap on track full stop :2Confused
The worst thing is that one of them owned one for a short while, then decided it was so ***te at cornering that he sold it :2eek

FD\'s are far from cr*p around a circuit, in fact if set up properly they are excellent on the track. Your mate who owned one and thought it sh**e probably had the misfortune to buy a badly sorted one. Also they do take a little more skill than some to drive at the limit. They are also leary in the wet. But it does sound like you are the victim of a mass wind up. As far as I understand, a mini works is an uprated Cooper S and no doubt good fun on the track, but its not an FD beater.

Prof · October 09, 2006, 02:04:35 PM

Quote from: J.j.They were on about standard or tuned. FDs are just crap on track full stop :2Confused
The worst thing is that one of them owned one for a short while, then decided it was so ***te at cornering that he sold it :2eek

It works better when you rotate the wheel shaped thing in front of the instruments :driving :rollin

The best cars for track are things like westfields, ariel atom or other really low slung, low C of G cars with buckets of power and torque and no weight.

For a street car, there isn\'t much lighter and lower than an FD and they corner very well.

On paper an S2000 should pee all over me, but I have yet to be wet as they say ! :Giggle

Adriansturgess · October 09, 2006, 02:07:05 PM

Worth watching how the straightline cruiser performs here

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5KtOMR6csSc