What bushes to check next

[Grizzly]

Stu try this place //www.mmr-direct.com I\'ve just been told they do the whole T2 suspension bush set for $190 inc DTSS bushes etc.

[grinder]

thanks chris - these prices seem to be going up not down !! LOL

Stu

[antnicuk]

i used the prothane kit,  some of the bushes didnt fit very well and i ended up getting some from Burtons and lathing down to fit.

[Grizzly]

Yeh, I personaly used an Energy kit from Mazdatrix, they fit well but i don\'t exactly know what i payed for them as i bought lots of other stuff at the same time (Saving Shipping costs )

TBH if i was going to rebush a car i would seriously think about using OE bushes, mainly becouse for the advantage the Polly bushes give you it does\'nt make up for the fact the OE ones will last three times longer.

[Kron]

I thought the whole point of polyurathane ones were the enhanced durability?

[Grizzly]

Nope, The hole point is to remove unwanted movement from the suspension when you Brake hard or at WOT. Racers arn\'t Worried about them lasting in terms of years rather in terms of Races.

Basicly so when you set your Geo up it stays in the same place under load. There for the car will Handle better and be more Predictable.

If you think about it the Harder the Bush the move Vibration that it will alow through the Car and also with it being harder they have less shape returning Propertys (Basicly when the suspension is hit hard the Rubber bush will allow a set amount of movement and will return to its orignal shape where the Polly Bush will move less without distorting, So if the Polly bush is put under on off load for long periods the bolt hole in the middle elongated and the nush may also become slack in the Mounting hole)

The reason that its good to change you bushes is becouse after 10 years the std Bush will start to crack and seperate causing exesive Suspension Movement which will act like the Car is steering its self under load. The main reason people use Polly bushes is the Price !! OE bushes arn\'t cheap.

[Grizzly]

Did you get your Poly Bushes Stu

[grinder]

nah not yet matey ... still not sure where to start - im now slowly getting convinced i have knackered shocks

im sure the car sits at slightly different heights at the front

i need some really level ground and a ruler

the bushes - there is no real rush to be honest

Stu

[Grizzly]

well if its not sat level it\'ll be your Springs, But that will make it drive funny.

TBH if your car is still one its first Stuts and springs it would not suprise me at all  they are a bit tired.

[grinder]

yeah its all orig

i have a full set of lowering springs - i could try fitting them i suppose - it just looks a big job !!

Stu

[Grizzly]

Not that big, Two bolts at the base of the Strut four at the to and its off, if you have some Spring compressors it\'ll take five minutes to swap the springs. While the springs off you can see how much resistance there is in the Struts.

TBH the rears are the worsed to do becouse you have to remove the Rear Speaker covers and speakers...   :Thumbs-up Its more time consuming than Hard , you\'d do them all in a day if you took your time.

[grinder]

ah right - i thought it would be a pain to do

its already insured with the lowering springs - just not fitted them

Stu

[paul3944]

Hi All

I\'ve just finished fitting my energy suspension kit to the front and there is a difference in handling, while i was there i found a knackered ball joint, brake disc covers corroded, and just about every bolt frozen :mad:

The kit wont do all the rear there are lots of bushses missing (see pic), as mentioned Iam looking at MMR direct who also sell on ebay US :Typing

Paul

[shaunwil]

The red ones may not be be bushes, if its like the 3rd gen they coupld be sperical bearings and usually you need to get mazda oem. Does it feel like a ball joint ?

Shaun

[grinder]

im convinced its now a front end prob - so the kit may do the job

Stu