Are they going to go up or down

[mullins]

The thing is when manufacturers make unique cars like ours with the rotary units, people tend to forget about the naff stuff that whent befor it!!!

What exactly are you refering to? :flamed

[JamesFD3]

I remember chatting to a respected prestige car dealer specialising in Porsche 911\'s and NSX\'s etc about 10 years ago and I said I\'d really like a late model RX-7 and he said...."you like your rare exotic cars don\'t you......" and quoted me 20K+ to import a really nice one!!

My,how times have changed!!!!!!

[Jono FD3]

What exactly are you refering to? :flamed

I thought someone would pick up in that.... CR@P
I ment the usual run of the mill shopping cars & family cars, like the old boxy 323 and 626 range that isn\'t that desiarable!!

[Martiny]

WELL EXCUSE ME - WHAT\'s WRONG WITH A 323?

[monkey-fd3s]

Classic Ferrari\'s, break down, slow, heavy on petrol etc. dont rate the 70\'s - 90\'s cars most of them look like dairily slices!!!

Basicaly if its different and looks sweet then prices should increase fingers crossed for all of us!!!
Jono

But the difference is that a classic (80\'s) ferrari is worth about £28,000 and an 80\'s RX7 is worth about £1500.  Lets face it a 308 GTS would still turn more heads (of the general idiot public) than an RX7, even if you would look like Magnum.

Even a nice RX (FD) with a long spec list that probably cost the best part of £35,000 only sells for say £10,000 which is a shame.  :xconfused

[sadgoth]

even run of the mill daily drivers hit a point where their value increases, look at mk1 2 door escorts! Try and find a good-un for under £4k these days.

I still think that in 20 years time the FD will be going up in value as the dogs will have rotted away and there will be fewer on the roads. Thing is then a stock car will be worth more that a modded one!

[Ricco_04]

I\'m not bothored what my car will be worth in the future.  I love it to bits right now, drive it all the time and will spend way more on it than what its worth.  I understand however that this is not what the thread is about!

I think it\'s far better to buy the car you have wanted and actually drive it - not just store it in the garage and hope it will be worth something in the future.  Think of all those people who have never seen one before - I only ever saw 1 on the road in my lifetime which doesn\'t include car shows.  I hate it when cars just dissapear off the planet - let the world see how wonderfull they are!  :cool

[steve b]

Price will go down and down and down, the only Jap car thats a true classic in terms of Astons etc is the Toyota 2000GT and there are only about 10 of them.

The primary reason they will go down is they are expensive to fix after a blown engine, once a cars so old people think why am I spending so much keeping it going, £4000 for a rebuild and the car if I was to sell may fetch £6000? They\'ll notice that they could have alot more modern metal thats faster, better handling, more reliable, may look better for the same cash they are pooring away on their old motor.

Add to the fact the Barry Boys will start abusing the cars, joining the "scene", ruining it, the more mature lot will want nothing to do with them, be associated with them.. there will be more & more sheds, less and less well cared for cars.. downward spiral.  It\'ll be just like cosworths..  

Think of this MGB GT, £90 per year fully comp insurance, no road tax, parts are dirt cheap,  a mate of mine just had one fully restored looks like new full restore cost £2000.  That won\'t even get a blown FD back on the road if the rest is immaculate, unless you fix it yourself....

The only nice cars left will be owned by you guys now that have kept them, you\'ll grown beards, will meet at country pubs to discuss the rebuilds over ale with twigs in, those cars will retain value, none of the others.

[Jono FD3]

WELL EXCUSE ME - WHAT\'s WRONG WITH A 323?

Oooooops, Sorry :spank !!! Nothing wrong with them, their good knock abouts. I was refering to the early ones with breez block styling!! but then it was the fashion at the time for cars to be styled like this!!! I\'m going to shut up now befor I dig my way to Oz!!!!!

My opinion: fingers crossed for all of us, the market for the FD will improove and the prices will start to go up (even if it is 10-15 years down the line) I intend keeping mine for alot longer anyway (unless something seriously major hapens......... New house, wedding and the arrival of triplets all on one weekend wouldnt make me sell mine :Giggle !!!)

Jono

[sadgoth]

Price will go down and down and down, the only Jap car thats a true classic in terms of Astons etc is the Toyota 2000GT and there are only about 10 of them.

The primary reason they will go down is they are expensive to fix after a blown engine, once a cars so old people think why am I spending so much keeping it going, £4000 for a rebuild and the car if I was to sell may fetch £6000? They\'ll notice that they could have alot more modern metal thats faster, better handling, more reliable, may look better for the same cash they are pooring away on their old motor.

Add to the fact the Barry Boys will start abusing the cars, joining the "scene", ruining it, the more mature lot will want nothing to do with them, be associated with them.. there will be more & more sheds, less and less well cared for cars.. downward spiral.  It\'ll be just like cosworths..  

Think of this MGB GT, £90 per year fully comp insurance, no road tax, parts are dirt cheap,  a mate of mine just had one fully restored looks like new full restore cost £2000.  That won\'t even get a blown FD back on the road if the rest is immaculate, unless you fix it yourself....

The only nice cars left will be owned by you guys now that have kept them, you\'ll grown beards, will meet at country pubs to discuss the rebuilds over ale with twigs in, those cars will retain value, none of the others.

While this is true, there comes a point when the number remaining on the road is lower than the demand, hence prices rise. Also a mint 240z will set you back low end E-type money these days, that is a jap classic.

Cosworths are coming back up in value now, I saw a mint 2wd Cossie whale tail up for sale at just under £14k recently! To think 5-6 years ago that would have gone for less than half of that!

I wouldn\'t say that an RX7 will ever be as collectable as an aston, rarrie or similar, but in time they will become more collectable again.

[Martiny]

:-)

The 323 was conceived in a big hurry, when Mazda was big in the poo. The rotary engined sedans were suddenly "undesirable" , as you put it. The 323 is a huge success !  In the 80\'s it outsold the Toyota Corolla.

If you want 1)a reasonably priced car with 2) excellent reilability - the 323 is it. Is that what a "knock about" is? I agree the styling is very conservative, but 1) and 2) were the foremost design criteria .

[mullins]

The only nice cars left will be owned by you guys now that have kept them, you\'ll grown beards, will meet at country pubs to discuss the rebuilds over ale with twigs in, those cars will retain value, none of the others.

Cracked me up :rollin

"THE FD CLASSIC CAR CLUB" (tweed optional :chat)

[Martiny]

:-)

The 323 was conceived in a big hurry, when Mazda was big in the poo. The rotary engined sedans were suddenly "undesirable" , as you put it. The 323 is a huge success !  In the 80\'s it outsold the Toyota Corolla.

If you want 1)a reasonably priced car with 2) excellent reilability - the 323 is it. Is that what a "knock about" is? I agree the styling is very conservative, but 1) and 2) were the foremost design criteria .

Just to add, in 1995 -  Cumulative production of the Mazda Familia/323 series in Japan reaches 10 million units.

Not bad for an "undesirable knock-about", eh?

:-)

[M@r]{]

I dont know if Cosworths are a good example - You would have to pay in excess of £3000 for a 89\' Sierra Sapphire cosworth!!  And look at the Escort Cosworths - £14000 upwards!!    

I think it depends if they get that \'cult status\' - as previously mentioned - look at the two door escorts?   Even more so look at Capri\'s.  It wasnt so long ago you could pick them up for £500.  You look on Autotrader at the half decent running ones - you wont get one for under £3000.  I see a Brooklyns for £8000 the other day    

Add to the fact the Barry Boys will start abusing the cars, joining the "scene", ruining it, the more mature lot will want nothing to do with them, be associated with them.. there will be more & more sheds, less and less well cared for cars.. downward spiral.  It\'ll be just like cosworths..  

[normski]

Just a thought here, Again, Did anyone see the FD advertised in the classic car mag about 18 months ago. had load done to it and was very nice, So I was told. Anyway, I agree here, it did take about a year to sell it, but it went for about 26K and it was a mid 90\'s version.

Like the 240Z and many others, Early Fords from the 70\'s RS1800. I feel it\'s quite possible for them to worth proper money in few years. For my money, I recon reasonable condition FD\'s have not gone down in value. Think about it 3 or 4 years ago a nice 92,93,94 version would cost around 7 to 9k, to day, the same car in very good nick, will still cost 7 to 9K, if it\'s a bit special, with some good mods, I recon you are looking most of the time, at around 10 to 12K. Something thats had the works done to it, all the way you could be looking at near 13 to 15K. Of course you can find cheaper, but most are bins. that need around 5K spent on them to get them up to scratch. :driving