Apexi Vs Motec

[BlitzBoy]

So what I gather the Motec offers greater resolution? so the Apexi uses a 20x20 resolution what does the Motec give?

[Fish]

Also in the MoTeC ball park is Pectel and Bosch.

Blitz, depends on the model you buy, but the recommended M800 does 40x21 then add all the additional compensation tables on as well.

Brochure

Fish

[Ant]

That dyno sheet will be interesting.

So from reading the descriptions on http://www.rotaryart.uk.com/acatalog/ECU_s.html would you say that the M4Pro would be the daddy as the others seem to have things that probably wouldnt be needed on a twin rotor?

Also anyone who is in the know, would it be worth fitting this to a standard car and if so would you expect any power gains?

cheers
Ant

[g11ary]

you would get very little power gains from a stock car, not worth it imho.
Just looked up old motec bill and my m800 set up has cost £8559.28 with all the sensors etc, not fitting. So add it up carefully.

[Ant]

That is a lot of cash!!!

[g11ary]

Its got the ADL digi dash and so was expensive, but worth it when done. But it soon adds up with all the sensors etc. Just dont buy a Motec, work out all needed first. And make sure you get a quote for the install, not an estimate, as my estimate was 6k fitting but was invoiced for 9k, they forgot 3k of materials.

[steve b]

Its got the ADL digi dash and so was expensive, but worth it when done. But it soon adds up with all the sensors etc. Just dont buy a Motec, work out all needed first. And make sure you get a quote for the install, not an estimate, as my estimate was 6k fitting but was invoiced for 9k, they forgot 3k of materials.

I don\'t understand how thats so expensive, an M4 installed on on MR2T inc mapping is Under 2K thats including new sensors as AFM gets ditched for MAP etc

[g11ary]

Dont take much
ADL £2700
79 pin connector £ 100
ADL logging £1000
M800 £2000
M800 Adv tun upgrade £300
Single lambda support £500
Dual lambda support £200
2x thermocouple kit £140
2x Thermo amp £200
2X5 bar sensors £100
Can cable £150
can inferface £50
2x bosch connectors £40
3x bosch engine temp sensors £65
2x bosch fast lambda sensor £225
M800 crimps £300
M800 12 cyl support £300

Soon adds up

[Ant]

are all the sensors bought from motec or are they just general sensors? if you know what i mean?


cheers

[g11ary]

most motec with some bosch parts

[Fish]

Dont forget that on most piston engines you can get away with lesser models. The main thing you need is the outputs and software to run a stepper motor for the oil injection.

I ran an M48Pro (on a subaru) for over a year, and loved it. It just gave so much extra refinement over the PFC, proper boost control and the closed loop lambda saved loads on fuel.

Fish

[Ant]

Yeah thats another thing, my uncle is running MoTec on his galant with about 370bhp and he still gets 30mpg (off boost) well, so he claims.

[banned advertiser]

The first Motec I used gave me more power and much better fuel economy, but most aftermarket ecu\'s will do that if mapped

[Ant]

cheers for all the info everyone has put on this thread it been very useful!!!!