What to do next?

Started by Steve Burnett, October 06, 2005, 01:48:42 PM

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Gerry M

I\'ve got a trust SMIC air temps never seem to go over 40 on pfc. & all the pipes are nice & cool even after a good run. So I\'d recommed it, or there is the group buy on chucks V mounts
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Donato

Right mate, costs..it all depends on your mechanical know how, if you can do the work yourself then you will save a packet. If you read the link then you can see there are not to many parts involved, i made the blocking plates from a sheet of aluminium i got from a friendly metal supplier, cost - £0.

the costs of the other bits i couldnt remember but they were necessary as i was going through a rebuild anyway so all the gaskets were required. I cant remember the exact costs of the gaskets.

It would be an idea to look at a bigger intercooler but its not a neccessity to go front mount for non sequential as far as i know...

Fueling, i got an uprated pump from Pip, if i remember it was around £100 and i have 1300 secondaries again supplied by Pip (check costs with him as i cant remember) I can boost up to 1 bar safely and that does me 300bhp at the wheels is enough for me and my driving abilities..  :3gears-rh

If you do decide to go down that route then i would be happy to lend you a hand as i have done it before..

Cheers

Donato

Rich Cheung

Steve,

Firstly reducing the intake temps is a good saftey measure and is my next mod. There are various views on whats best. I\'ve heard a larger SMIC is not always good because of heat soak. Front mount or V mount can get expensive, same goes for the charge cooler route. Personally I\'m going down the WI route with standard IC. A few guys on here are running this with very good results. Kits start from 200 quid ish. Do a quick search on here as theres a fair bit of info on them.

Re fueling as Donato says a bigger fuel pump and bigger injectors are the way to go. 100 quid ish for the fuel pump from WGT. I was lucky and got a 2nd hand set of injectors but new they weren\'t cheap (check with Pip).

Good luck with your modding.

Rich  :)
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Rich Cheung

One other thing I\'m on a standard sequential setup and running similar bhp to Donato so going non sequential will not really increase bhp just alter the way the power comes in and driveability.

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John Yorke

Steve , save your money on the SMIC/ FMIC and invest in WI and uprate you fuel pump and injectors, if the engine is sound you will see some good results, all you then need is a good boost controller and whack it up to 1 - 1.1bar :guinness

Steve Burnett

Quote from: John YorkeSteve , save your money on the SMIC/ FMIC and invest in WI and uprate you fuel pump and injectors, if the engine is sound you will see some good results, all you then need is a good boost controller and whack it up to 1 - 1.1bar :guinness

John your a man that knows about non seq! What all did you do in order to do it?
Intercooler?
Fueling?
Mapping session?
Boost controller?

Is it worth it?
I don\'t do 1/4 miles, I don\'t do circuits (id crash!) I just like my car and would like more power. Im not too bothered about the performance of it on track as it won\'t see that sort of action. I think I wan\'t to stay as close to the stock set up as possible. i.e. im not interested in going single or getting a charge cooler.

Im sure there is a fualt in the turbo\'s so im gonna have to address that, just thought while I take then out id be better to do something to them at the same time.

John Yorke

Quote from: Steve BurnettJohn your a man that knows about non seq! What all did you do in order to do it?
Intercooler?
Fueling?
Mapping session?
Boost controller?

Is it worth it?

He he  :cheers as yer man Donato says it cuts out all the bits that can go wrong with the seq. setup, port the exhaust out for a free\'er flow and it is just like fitting a TO4e [or better], uprate the injectors, pump, fit a boooost controller + a mapping session = 300+ATW :cool a very cheap way of going single add WI and you have a VERY safe powerfull Rex.

Steve Burnett

#22
Sounds like a plan, shame the funds arn\'t there at a moments notice!
But, this does give me my ideas for future, so thanks.
I think I\'ll see about buying a SMIC, finding out where a set of non seq. are hidding in Scotland (not stealing from Donato\'s car!!) and then price the fuelling mods and get it done.
Like most things I do to this car it will take ages, I have suspension and wing mirrors that I have had for well over a year still to go on the car!!!

I\'ll need to get goods costs on this.
Boost controller = £200ish
SMIC = £450
Fuel pump £150ish?
Injectors = ??? (I had heard bad things about 1300\'s)
Water Injection = £200ish (not sure if I\'ll do that at the same time)
Mapping session = £150ish
Labour = £600ish

How does that very very rough in my head calculation sound?

If any one has more comments please add them, this thread ain\'t closed yet. I\'ll still be thinking.

John Yorke

#23
If you have any engineering skills buy a good set of twins and mod them yourself, you dont need a SMIC- use the one you have and fit WI it will reduce your intake temps from 50\'s down to 20\'s when on boost. If you dont trust 1300\'s go 850 all round, never had a prob with my 1300\'s
Costs:
Set of twins £200 [if you dont use your own]
Porting and change over £250
WI £200
Injectors + pump £400
Boost cont. £200
Mappin ses. £200

Steve Burnett

Quote from: John YorkeIf you have any engineering skills buy a good set of twins and mod them yourself, you dont need a SMIC- use the one you have and fit WI it will reduce your intake temps from 50\'s down to 20\'s when on boost.


Ha ha, youd think a design engineer might have some skills but not me  :p

Sounds like very good results from the WI. I\'ll need to start looking into that further.

Sy.

Ill jump on the WI wagon and might go WI to start with ... sounds the cheapest way to get intake air temps down as i wont be tracking it and only the odd 1/4 mile .

ScuttleRX

For the price, cant fault it, simple way of reducing air temps and reducing detonation. Can drive without constantly worrying about the intake temps :)

Wont be AS effective on 1/4 mile as it is for track days as you\'ll still get the heat soak in the queue, but it will stop the air temps hitting silly figures when you do race so still good :D drop a bit of methanol in there too :D