Warming Up an FD

[TRex]

But your not trying to put right are you? if you disagree tell us why and what we should do. Personally I start the car and drive off. I just dont rag it til the oil is up to temp....

 Dave relax, this is exactly what I said/ask..
{QUOTE TREX}Why do you (all) start the car, wait to warm up, drive under 3K for awhile, no boost for 10 mins etc etc etc..
Please please explain...  {QUOTE}

 I asked a question, not disagreeing...
 SO don\'t know where this all started...

[davegttph1]

OK I agree with your explanation (p.s. Im relaxed as can be at work ) that sitting there waiting for it too warm up is bad. never agreed with that, but you must also let the car warm up whilst driving it before giving it high revs

[MillSpeed]

I asked a question, not disagreeing...

But you were making out that you knew better. So do you disagree with driving the car gently until its thouroughly warmed up? Fair enough don\'t let it sit and idle, but from your explanation it sounded like you were saying "dive it hard so it warms up faster".

[nikp]

I think he means don\'t treat it like a delicate flower for the first few minutes - just drive it normally. I would have thought ragging it to the limits straight away is a good plan (But only due to the turbos requiring a nice supply of thin oil that only warm oil can do) - but i may be wrong there, too!!

I also do not agree that treating it delicately right from the start for 10 minutes or so is necassarily giving it the best treatment. I just drive mine normally - as you would any other car. I also do not sit in my drive waiting for it to cool down for 10 minutes - i used to, but don\'t anymore. The reason you\'re meant to is that oil used to get burnt (carbonised) to the oil supply lines of the turbos when hot, but with modern turbos that are water cooled, they will cool down slowly anyway, and therefore not have this problem, so i see little point in sitting in my car for no apparent reason.

I\'m with Trex on this one!

[TRex]

To elaborate a bit more, it\'s better to warm up your car while driving so that everything warms up equally. ie: you don\'t want your engine running at temp. while your transmission, differential, etc. are still frozen. This could cause undo stress should you decide to gun it for whatever reason...

This way the fluid will get pumped up and around theentire engine much faster than sitting at idle. I usually let it idle for about 30 seconds and go. In fact idling longer will be bad for the car. This is the new concept now.
Let your car idle till it\'s warmed up and compare to driving slowly out. You will notice that the latter step will warm the car up faster.

 ALso if you knew how a rotary engine works, and the oil system compared to a piston type is totally different in what needs and what gets lubed you may understand more.
 rgds

[TRex]

Ok yes I think we all understand a bit more...
 1. Idling for long periods is not good, especially when engine is cold.
 2. Drive the car after starting...
 3. Don\'t rag it just yet..  
 4. A rule of thumb is drive easily for first 2 miles.. normally after this the running temps are fine enough to red line the b@stard..  :cool

[MillSpeed]

Ok, so what was your original gripe with the methods suggested previously on this thread?:

"Sorry, but this is mad..
Why do you (all) start the car, wait to warm up, drive under 3K for awhile, no boost for 10 mins etc etc etc..."

[TRex]

It was abit too excessive don\'t you think..

 Abit like the car blows up at 60K..

 I think we need to get some stuff right about the cars as thats what peeps come on here for...
There are hundreds of people lurking and browsing the site on a weekly basis looking for information and they come on and read crazy stuff and they run away, and so to does the appreciation and value of our cars too, they run away!  

[TRex]

I\'ll give you an example as it\'s relevant..
 A couple of months ago when I was fresh on these cars, I asked a question(after searching many many past topics on here).
 I wanted to know what was the average or correct \'Oil pressures\' for these rotary engines..
 Up to now the question has not been answered correctly.  And since then 2 other threads came up asking the same question and still no one can give an answer..  :rolleyes:

 People here mod there cars to the teeth and run them, but do not know the very very basic critical answer to an important question like that.. mad..

[MillSpeed]

Excessive maybe, but it\'s certainly not misinformation. I mean how hard is it to be nice to your car until she\'s warmed up? At the end of the day it\'s entirely your perogative how you treat your car, but like interloper said with rebuilds often costing in excess of £4k, where\'s the harm in being cautious? Although I do agree there\'s alot scaremongering surrounding the rotary engine.

[nikp]

but there\'s harm in being over cautious! Ok, you treat your engine like kid gloves, by warming it up in the drive way on idle - on the gearbox destroys itself cos you go out and give it full throttle straight away because the engine is now warm enough to thrash!

I just drive mine normally straightaway - don\'t thrash it, but normal driving. I have found that the gearbox is much easier to use, slots in very nicely quite quickly. I believe that\'s down to everything warming up all at the same time.

[Jake]

TRex,
       I agree with what you\'re saying about the warming up process.  I was always taught once a car is started to drive it, don\'t just let it sit there and idle for ages before driving away.  Don\'t baby it too much when its cold, just  be more considerate until it\'s up to temp and then go for it. :3gears-rh

[MillSpeed]

No no, I don\'t mean leave it sit on the driveway idling for 10 minutes, just drive her gently until she\'s warmed through without boosting excessively. That\'s essentially the advice that was given at the start of this thread, so where\'s the problem with that? Pretty much standard practice with any turbo car, rotary or not.

On a side note, the oil pressures should be roughly:

~30-40 psi at idle
~60 psi at 3000 rpm
~100 psi + at reline

(although it will vary from car to car depending on wear etc.)

[J.j.]

{QUOTE TREX}Why do you (all) start the car, wait to warm up, drive under 3K for awhile, no boost for 10 mins etc etc etc..
Please please explain... {QUOTE}

Not too far off, no??

1. Start the car, wait to warm up - 30~60 secs
2. Drive under 3k for a while no boost for 10 mins - try avoiding positive boost, let the turbos warm up(no wot for 2 miles),
3. stay below 4k for another 2 miles(no wot).
4. Floor it  

The total warming up time 10 minutes  

[Jake]

haha, is it me or is that maths a little off?  If you sit for 60 secs, drive under 3k for 10 minutes and then do another 2 miles that\'d be more like 15 minutes surely?  I still don\'t agree with the letting the car sit for 30-60 seconds once it\'s started.  Surely it\'s just keeping the car colder for longer as it\'s not gonna warm up very fast sitting on the drive idling.  I would have thought that driving the car with some consideration is the quickest and best way to warm a car up?  Plus as others have mentioned it won\'t help much warming up the gearbox, diff.