Porch GT2

[gsb876]

Errrr

Just dont offer Ross a race too !!!!!

[normski]

I ain\'t racing Ross too!  :confused:

Of course driving a coach is not the same as a performance car, I was saying it\'s driving skills just the same, but in a very differing way. I agree, it\'s very easy to talk the talk but can we walk the walk. We have all had those fools out there, tell us of these fantastic times. we can all do that! my car does the strip is 4.5 seconds. See, it\'s easy! but just don\'t ask me to prove it!

As far as the GT2 goes Ross, I really do think if you check out almost any site you like, and anyone else who feels the need, you will find the average is around 2.1 to about 12.7 runs. They are a avery very good car, not saying otherwise, but they only have 460BHP not 560 or 660. Check most of the time out and I think you will find an F40 ( which is quicker than the GT2) averages very high 11 second runs about 11.9 ish. Lets look at it on papaer anyway, a GT2 is more of lump than the RX7 and I should be pulling at least 50 or 60BHP+ more than that, as a result, at least 150KGs less weight and about 60 ish BHP more push. in a straight line on a rolling start to about 150, he will loose, not by to much, but he should loose!

If talk about drag strips, abig factor is grip and the start, a skill in it\'self. Nothing to do with whose car is better. Rubber also plays good part as well.

If we mention, normal track racing then, although the Mazda has great balance a cornering abilities, I don\'t think it\'s quite up to a Porker GT2, or 3 come to that. Conditions out there also come into it, as we all know the RX is quite famous in the wet, heheheh  :wave   :burnout, then there is the track knowledge, who know that track the best ? Ummmmm! Luck also comes into play to, it could be just a bad day for someone. Even F1 top line drivers scew up at times! So theres lots of veriables. It\'s not quite that simple people. Thats why I said a rolling start in a straight line, good conditions, to about 150MPH it\'s the simplist type of driving, and as you may all recall, it is not about who is the best driver, it\'s about who has the power sheer grunt from 5 or 10mph to 150MPH. then it\'s all about the car, nothing else. Agility the GT2 would cill the RX I recon, but thats not what its all about!  :wave

[normski]

http://www.pr.streetracing.org/whats_new.html


also see this one then! :bandit

[J4P RX]

http://www.pr.streetracing.org/whats_new.html


also see this one then! :bandit

I cant even see the GT2 on the list   :confused:

[normski]

http://www.ssmoparmuscle.com/speedcomp.htm

It\'s on this one.

Turbo s is about as near as you can get, nothing in it!

[Ozz]

Come on boys I\'ll settle the argument, It\'s time for the best test available for those on a budget: GranTurismo4 .  I\'ll let you know the outcome :3gears-rh

[normski]

Now why did we not think of that one! silly me! :3gears-lh  :3gears-rh  :3gears-lh  :wiggle  :god  :god

[kev-yorks]

I am very very impressed :yes . I think your car is the most awesome type of sleeper. I LUV it! good luck with it.

I think my problem is, Pip has already got this T78 in. ready to stick it under the bonnet. Anyway, a T78 is not exactly a small baby blower is it. I think he intends to run about 10lbs of boost in my thing, which he recons it should cope with OK. will still have the water injection system. and the big intercooler. As I broke it last time, and it\'s cost both Pip and me a load of dosh, we thought this is not going to happen again, if we can help it. I think it\'s a very good point about the blower size though. the bigger it is, the less air it\'s got to compress. Very good point!  

I don\'t know, Kev may know with his cosmo, but he recons in an FD running that spect it will awsome! well over 500BHP and enough pull to rip your face off, if pushed!

what do you think....

Pips right about the performance make sure you\'ve a clear 1/2 mile or so in front of you if you\'re going to open it up as corners and traffic come up real fast. Even at 150mph in the heavier Cosmo theres no let up in the acceleration so it should be a intresting race if you can keep the backend under control. I dont know what size rear tyres you\'re going to use 265\'s on the back of mine and its still pretty easy to get the backend out. The noise you get out of the tail pipes is something special as well once you open it up.

Kevin

[BlitzBoy]

okies checked out various magazines and stuff, they mostly quote from 11.8 to 12.2 for the quarter mile. So it will be close, but the 20B should win if the car has been set up right and you launch it well.

But I feel if you gonna race through twisties then the GT2 will walk it easy, you gotta remember the FD Chassis was designed with the 13b and 300 BHP in mind, where as the GT2 Chassis was designed with over 400 bhp from the start, the Grunt/Torque from the turbod flat 6 exiting a corner with the Porsche Chassis will cream you. So just agree on a drag race lol

[normski]

:yes I agree! Corners, I will get creamed big time. I often feel these 360\'s 355\'s Gt3 and GT4 are often over stated. Of course they are very quick, compaired to your average ST220 ford or MGF, and alike. But I still say, in a straight balls out race in a line, a good 600BHP Supra Skyline, RX7, and some others will trounce them. Yes I know they have been worked on and the others are out of the box, but, when you consider they are 100K upwards. and all we have to do. is spend 10K on the car and another 15K on the MOD\'s 25 or so later, and we have agiant Killer. And extra 3 or 4K on the looks

What have we got a Jap exclusive, which is individual, and short of an Enzo or similar there ain\'t nothing gonna get past your ass! Sorry all those red car fans 355\'s and alike, but you are paying 50K for the badge and 30K for the car type thing. Keep the badge, I will take a good Jap motor anyday.

I think thats why sites like tis one exist, Cos we think they are the best! And you can\'t tune a Porch or the (big F) like you can a nice Jap motor! thats a fact.

Ans Kev! Yes I just cannot wait to get my new car back the 20B in it. Pip recons the sound is just out there. A six pot 2 stroke. never listened to one of them. he recons ( sound wise) it\'s not too far off the formula 1 screem, would you agree

[Oedipus Rex]

I\'ve always said rotaries \'howl\' and they do.

I love the noise out of my car, especially in a tunnel.

[J4P RX]

Theres a lot of tuning out there for Porsches.  And look at the times from GT Battle at the weekend.  The GT3 RS\'s out of the box standard cars were only really beaten by Lloyds Cossie and I bet thats had rather more than 75k spent on it to develop it to the spec.  Same with Sumos R34 which only just piped them.  But then the Porsches still have warrenty.  And re-sale value.  

Id definatly have one if I had the money to do so.

[gsb876]

The cossie looked bleedin quick too !!!! saw it go round lapping the Lotus Exige

[Ozz]

Interesting video of Gemballa porsche vs RSG R34 (I know its not a rex, but when it comes to jap vs world we\'re all in the same boat)
http://www.toprpm.com/videos/RSG-GTR34_vs_PorscheGambala.rm

Who\'s the DADDY NOW

[normski]

yea your right there loads of addons for the Porkers, I don\'t know if there is as many as for the Jap scene, but ha, there we go! The truth is, I like the Porkers to, some very nice machines out there, but there are loads and loads about. Stand on ya average street corner, and see a porker go past, and the reaction generaly is, so what! see a nice X7 float by and my experience says it gets more attention. 99% of 911\'s all look the bloody same, alth there are about 14 million models out there.  The Boxster, 924, 944, 928, ( ha well, forget them sorry things ( short back and sides come to mind) that ain\'t happening man! GT3 GT3rs  GT2, GT1 Turbo and the Turbo\'S great cars, the rest are pants! ,  :yes . No doubt, we could ponder such finaries all day long. If I was mega rich I would have a nice Turbo \'S in my little stable along with, a bunch of many others to. I would still have the old RX7 Cos I like them, It\'s classic in it\'s own time. One of the best proper sports cars to have ever come out of the land of the rising sun. Supra\'s  also a sweet car, GTO. Skylines they all the Big boy of the Jap performance. Others are very good to. but. Pulsars, and alike, not my bag baby!

My little baby, will have cost me about 40K when it\'s complete. and will give an F40 costing 150K a bloody good run, it won\'t make me look silly at all. And I have got music, electric windows, and door handles in my car! Ha, and the panels fit better to!  


Anyway! You will please to know in about 3 hours I am off to  Thailand for the next 16 days. So I don\'t care anyway....... :yes  :wiggle  :wave  :wave