Turbo II....

Started by Brett, April 01, 2005, 12:46:58 PM

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grinder

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Brett

QuoteOriginally posted by grinder
welcome to my world matey

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antnicuk

looks light a great big heak soak to me,   sitting on top of the engine like that just absorbs heat,   good warming your intake air up on a cold morning though!:confused:
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TRex

Had one of those ARC Intercoolers, but flogged it as I have gone a different route now....

 Agreed, placing an intercooler on top of the engine has been proven as being not a very good idea.......
 Mega Heat soak........  remember, Hot air rises etc etc......

 The only reason Impreza, Evos\' etc have them on top is because they were designed for Rally car use and Rally conditions, they\'ll  get fecked in a front mounted position from Stones, rubble, crap etc etc etc.... along with other reasons along those lines...

 A road/street car where the vehicle can be stationary for periods(traffic, corners, driving at 30mph etc) just attracts heat soak!

 rgds
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Brett

Agreed, but my plans revolve around making the car look standard, but go \'reasonably\' well.  I reckon that some work with a few temperature controlled relays and either a water mist or CO2 spray onto the intercooler would work wonders.  
 At the end of the day I dont intend to be giving the car a thrashing all the time, I will run a switchable mapping system that will control the wastegate too, so there will be a \'softly, softly catchy monkey\' map and probably an all out \'turbo nutter 1mpg my god thats fast\' map.  :D

 Buts thats all a year off, I\'ve got to build the block yet....
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colinrx7surrey

\'\'I will run a switchable mapping system that will control the wastegate too, so there will be a \'softly, softly catchy monkey\' map and probably an all out \'turbo nutter 1mpg my god thats fast\' map. \'\'

alright bret this sounds really good!!
  theres a company called revo technick which make exactly wat u have described!! i believe its got three different switches.-standard-fast -faster etc etc my mate has got one in his cupra turbo ibiza and it flys!!
cheers fella colin
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samfc3s

EVO dont have a intercooler on top, is just a vent for the hot air to vent out. It has a front mount intercooler behond the bumper. Only the Scooby has the top mount

Sam
Panspeed tuned FC3S.......

TRex

QuoteOriginally posted by samfc3s
EVO dont have a intercooler on top, is just a vent for the hot air to vent out. It has a front mount intercooler behond the bumper. Only the Scooby has the top mount

Sam

 Wrong, early ones had TMI...
 It was mainly designed for Rally use......

 Every rally manufacturer did a TMI car design.... Nissan, Toyota, Mazda, Subaru etc.... because of conditions....

 Anyway, won\'t press this as it depends on what you really want for the car in terms of performance and usage.
 For instance in drag racing, it won\'t matter much really as for a quick 5-15 sec blast won\'t see a major difference really, a charge cooler is probably best for this application anyway.
 Coarses for horses really.....

 Anyway, fitting a Front mount intercooler in an FC is a \'biatch\' of a job..... :(
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Brett

Ok, standard thicko question here. (And because I cant be bothered to go look it up)

 Whats different from a charge cooler to an intercooler? (I know how an IC works)
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TRex

An intercooler is essentially a radiator tuned for high flow rates and the increasing density of the charge as it cools. Most designs use ambient air for cooling, flowing through the radiator core, and often colocated with other radiators for oil or cooling fluid.
  An alternate design, often referred to as a charge cooler, uses water to cool the charge, then cools the water in a separate radiator.
 While heavier and more complex, charge coolers can often make arranging the engine much simpler.
Having liquid on the cold side of the exchanger results in several very important advantages.

 First, water is over 9 times more conductive than air, so, the overall heat transfer coefficient is dramatically improved...many times per unit fin area over air-to-air. This affords a much more compact heat exchanger design. Compactness allows the cooler to be placed directly "in the run" from the tuborcharger to engine -
  Little to no increase in ducting length occurs so ducting losses are absolutely minimized meaning charge density is maximized.
 Having a reservoir of cool liquid on-hand takes advantage of available thermal mass or storage of the coolant itself, i.e., the vast majority of boost/power demands are typically of short duration, resulting in very little overall temperature rise of the coolant itself.
 As the coolant is continuously circulated, cooled and stored "at the ready" at close to ambient temperatures, the charge cooler is always afforded Maximum Cooling Advantage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Brett

Thanks for the info, I\'ve just downlaoded a nice write up from Vortex as well.  I\'m looking into making one now.  Trouble is looking for a place to put the water tank and the pump.  Theres no way you want to run it from the main water supply that feeds the engine too!  Presuming I can get the pressure right, I\'m considering locating a tank inside one of the boot panels and feeding the CC with some .25" pipe.  I\'ve got lots of time to get it sorted out yet, but its an interesting idea and well worth it if I mak it work reliably. :)
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Brett

More pictures (dubious quality however)

The two FC\'s side by side.
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Brett

Turbo II from the side (Please note the lack of green Sh*t now)
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Brett

(Feel free to play \'spot the rotor housing on the previous picture)

 Interior 1 (Is that a standard colour?)
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Brett

Better picture of the leathers colour.
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