D2 brake kit

[TRex]

That is the start of the auction price. Be interesting to see what they go for at end of auction.

Shaun

 It won\'t go actually, this is the 3rd time it\'s been relisted at the very same price!

 

\'Clive\' -- but if you buy something this safety related on a group buy and god forbid something goes really horribly wrong, who would you sue for compensation ?

Even with a straight warranty claim where no harm was done you would need to go back to the "company" and not the manufacturer as you would not have brought the goods from the manufacturer ,

 I think that says it all.... ^

 My early teens learing about Cars and fixing them etc, something I always remember my old man telling me, \'Brakes and Steering\', never feck or cut corners with these 2 things, everything else maybe, but never Brakes and Steering!!!!!

[Speedworks]

I\'m with Clive on this. Being in the OEM manufacturing on daily basis, I can\'t agree more.

Asian companies flood the market with their cheap stuff, And I don\'t mind too much as long as they are offering cheap gauges, bodykits or whatever for that matter.

But  when it comes to safety, the choice wether too live another day... I would NEVER mess with the brakes of my car

[AshRX]

As anyone used the D2 gear on a quick track car on a FD?? Probably most havent but I have in my Time Attack car so I can answer it not like some on here who are slagging them off without using them properly.

The calipers and discs are great and the do the job as well as a set of 6 pot Ap Racing ones. The only thing you need to change is the pads and brake fluid to some decent stuff. I used Carbonne Lorraine pads and fluid and all i can is the brake set up is fantastic. There have been a few on here who have driven my car on the road and track and they have all commented on how good they are how quickly it stops with no juddering and more importantly straight.

If they were that rubbish as some of you are saying why are there many Time Attack cars, EDC and BDC using these brakes??

Cant be that crap

[Colin]

Thanks for that ash, out of interest have you had any problems with disc\'s cracking?

[AshRX]

nothing at all, had the same set for last 18 months and are just as new

[MaLicE]

As anyone used the D2 gear on a quick track car on a FD?? Probably most havent but I have in my Time Attack car so I can answer it not like some on here who are slagging them off without using them properly.

The calipers and discs are great and the do the job as well as a set of 6 pot Ap Racing ones. The only thing you need to change is the pads and brake fluid to some decent stuff. I used Carbonne Lorraine pads and fluid and all i can is the brake set up is fantastic. There have been a few on here who have driven my car on the road and track and they have all commented on how good they are how quickly it stops with no juddering and more importantly straight.

If they were that rubbish as some of you are saying why are there many Time Attack cars, EDC and BDC using these brakes??

Cant be that crap

sponsorship, i know a few time attack people and edc/bdc and for using products and sticking stickers on the car they get cheap/free parts

when it comes to brakes i would want something i know isnt likely to fail, when i get around to uprating mine i will get some brembo calipers (even ones off of cars like 350z\'s etc and get a custom bracket made up) i think someone on rx7 club said the brembo\'s off of a certain evo fit straight on with a certain disk... or save and get some grex/project mu/alcon/ap i want to go for a big brand one cos im a badge whore and i know they work and i wont have to worry about dust seals or having to rebuild every 1-2 years.

[clive]

If they were that rubbish as some of you are saying why are there many Time Attack cars, EDC and BDC using these brakes??

Cant be that crap

Hi Ash, pleased your brakes were fine

I had actualy said above/
 
"My personal feeling is that if your racing these cheaper kits are worth a go"

My real reservations are road use,

Hopefully !, armed with my post above and this below people will be better informed to make their choice when it comes to parting with hard earned cash, not forgetting that these cheaper kits are still a lot of money !!,


If using these calipers on the road here in the U/K,  personally I would look for//


Stainless Steel pistons, double seals, i.e. that there is a dust/muck seal as well as the fluid seal as many don’t have a dust seal, and lastly, have a good look at the caliper to check that it has enough meat everywhere because after prolonged use the caliper may warp causing  the pistons to stick or worse if the metal is too thin it may fatigue and break.


Hope this helps

[stacy]

Right, here\'s where I become unpopular I guess.

I have never seen the logic in buying cheap brakes on either the road or the track.

On the road think wheel nuts. On a race car they are on and off non stop. On a road car they get torqued up and then taken for granted for two years until you need a new tyre. It\'s the same with brakes for me, when I\'m dozy and slow and listening to the radio pottering down the M4 in the rain I\'d like to know that they will work when I need when it\'s been so long since I saw them I couldn\'t tell you what make they were..

The trouble with cheap brake kits of any description is that the profit margins will be the same by and large, so you are left with lower materials cost to achieve it.

So what tends to go wrong with them?

Well, calipers bending is a good one I saw when a full race E36 M3 decided to forego the obligatory AP route and save himself a few quid. Of course when you\'re not leaning on them as hard the same happens, but imperceptibly slower..

Unfortunately (those of a sensitive nature avert your ears) just being on the grid with them in Time Attack is not necessarily an advertisement. There are those (hey, just like in full circuit racing) who aren\'t necessarily shall we say /leaning/ on the equipment as much as they might like to make out, and we don\'t know of the maintenance they are undergoing or indeed the track mileage or indeed any sponsorship deals and replacements. Putting them back to back with a set of top spec equipment after a full seasons running might be a more accurate test..

There are tuners and then there are professional motorsport teams (WSR, Team Dynamics etc), and it would be interesting to see if they are using anything surprising. Probably not but I\'ll tell you soon because I\'m writing a technical brakes feature for a magazine shortly.

All brakes should be able to stop you with no vibrations and pulling, what changes is their ability to do that over long periods and mileage and for given heat ranges.

After messing around with "fast road" brands in the past, it got to the stage where if you cut me down the middle I\'d have AP stamped through me like a stick of rock. However, I moved to Alcon due to a disc sizing issue and can report they are every bit as good for a similar price point. Effectively my race cars brakes are the same as Sebastian Loeb\'s WRC car.

However for a road car app I wouldn\'t do either of these. As has been mentioned I\'d just work out what other (faster) cars OEM set would fit my car, get the thing properly setup and off I go at less money and more likely less concern over its ability to handle road car mileages.

S.