Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: mitchy_b on September 24, 2004, 09:50:13 PM
Post by: mitchy_b on September 24, 2004, 09:50:13 PM
its time for a new car, i have 6k maybe 7.5k at a stretch for a car. been looking at imprezas, supras etc.
what i want to know is what sort of rx7 could i get for my money, good clean car or a bit of a dog? and why should i buy a rx7 instead of say a supra 3.0 N/A version or any other jap performance motor for that matter?
cheers :wave
what i want to know is what sort of rx7 could i get for my money, good clean car or a bit of a dog? and why should i buy a rx7 instead of say a supra 3.0 N/A version or any other jap performance motor for that matter?
cheers :wave
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: ScuttleRX on September 24, 2004, 11:01:21 PM
Post by: ScuttleRX on September 24, 2004, 11:01:21 PM
Against a N/A supra a rx7 would perform much better ,it is at the very least on par with the twin turbo supe, id say better but i am a little biased ;). scoobys/evos are a diff type of car really so depends what you prefer, 4wd drive rally slag or rear wheel drive monster :)
There seem to be some good deals about for that sorta money, couple for sale on here i think for 7500, 8000. If you take your time you should be able to find a good \'92/\'93 in your budget, maybe even with fairly recent re-build if your lucky.
Running cost wise, the services ive had have been about 250, good policy to change oil every 3000, only bad thing is the mpg, if your using it for commuting could prove a prob?
Good points for me, handling, power (amount and smoothness :) ), jaw-dropping looks, and having something that little bit different...theres not another jap marque i\'d choose, if i had to, r34 gtr maybe but then were talking mega-bucks, for what is really not a huge leap forward, and theyre about twice as costly to tune (and no way near as pretty:) )
thats my 2p, hope it proves helpful to ya matey ;)
There seem to be some good deals about for that sorta money, couple for sale on here i think for 7500, 8000. If you take your time you should be able to find a good \'92/\'93 in your budget, maybe even with fairly recent re-build if your lucky.
Running cost wise, the services ive had have been about 250, good policy to change oil every 3000, only bad thing is the mpg, if your using it for commuting could prove a prob?
Good points for me, handling, power (amount and smoothness :) ), jaw-dropping looks, and having something that little bit different...theres not another jap marque i\'d choose, if i had to, r34 gtr maybe but then were talking mega-bucks, for what is really not a huge leap forward, and theyre about twice as costly to tune (and no way near as pretty:) )
thats my 2p, hope it proves helpful to ya matey ;)
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: mitchy_b on September 24, 2004, 11:17:24 PM
Post by: mitchy_b on September 24, 2004, 11:17:24 PM
the car would just be an evening and weekend car, have another run around for work etc (even tho work is only 5 miles up the road :D ) so mpg is not really an issue.
so is there anything i should be looking out for when buying a rx7, at the moment it seems to be my car of choice, just something about them i like. so if all goes to plan end of next month my search will start.
so is there anything i should be looking out for when buying a rx7, at the moment it seems to be my car of choice, just something about them i like. so if all goes to plan end of next month my search will start.
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: ScuttleRX on September 24, 2004, 11:19:41 PM
Post by: ScuttleRX on September 24, 2004, 11:19:41 PM
check out the hints and tips on buying a rotary section, loadsa helpful advice in there mate
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: iiyama on September 25, 2004, 09:16:09 AM
Post by: iiyama on September 25, 2004, 09:16:09 AM
YOu could have Minty\'s red motor for £7500............
Ian
Ian
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Flat_Steve on September 25, 2004, 12:50:04 PM
Post by: Flat_Steve on September 25, 2004, 12:50:04 PM
Utterly gorgeous. Spellbinding handling. Unbelievably rapid. Incredibly rare. Ticked all the boxes for me!
Don\'t worry too much about the MPG. Mine is my daily hack and I drive it all over the place during work, just temper your left foot a little. If you work so close MPG really won\'t be that much of an issue. Myself I\'ve never understood the point of a car you can\'t use! ;)
Don\'t worry too much about the MPG. Mine is my daily hack and I drive it all over the place during work, just temper your left foot a little. If you work so close MPG really won\'t be that much of an issue. Myself I\'ve never understood the point of a car you can\'t use! ;)
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: mitchy_b on September 26, 2004, 11:24:38 PM
Post by: mitchy_b on September 26, 2004, 11:24:38 PM
liking the rx7 better than your wrc look escort then steve. :D
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Flat_Steve on September 27, 2004, 12:32:36 AM
Post by: Flat_Steve on September 27, 2004, 12:32:36 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by mitchy_b
liking the rx7 better than your wrc look escort then steve. :D
Hehe! :D Who\'s this? An Escort Evolution member perchance? ;)
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: mitchy_b on September 27, 2004, 06:57:51 PM
Post by: mitchy_b on September 27, 2004, 06:57:51 PM
more of a mkvregister member but went across to "the other side" from time to time. :D ;) im known as mr_b around those parts, think i even sent you an email or two about buying your old motor when it was for sale.
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Iain C on September 27, 2004, 10:23:22 PM
Post by: Iain C on September 27, 2004, 10:23:22 PM
supra 3.0 N/A is a wee bit lame imo. A supra needs turbo power to hall its heavy ass about.
Arnt they 8 seconds to 60?:rollin
Arnt they 8 seconds to 60?:rollin
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: gsb876 on September 28, 2004, 05:44:47 PM
Post by: gsb876 on September 28, 2004, 05:44:47 PM
I guess in truth you are gonna possibly require more than $7.5k to buy a really good rx, true you may get a decent one for around $8k mark but if your budget starts to stretch at $7.5k then you are probably better suited to another performance car.
Why? - well if you buy a decent rx for $7.5k then it goes and throws a seal you will need a further $3k to rebuild the engine!!! do you have that?? if so keep going bro.
However you can also get a rebuilt engine rx7 for around the $8k mark too so make sure you make a note of mileage of any rx´s you are going to view.
Gurj;)
Why? - well if you buy a decent rx for $7.5k then it goes and throws a seal you will need a further $3k to rebuild the engine!!! do you have that?? if so keep going bro.
However you can also get a rebuilt engine rx7 for around the $8k mark too so make sure you make a note of mileage of any rx´s you are going to view.
Gurj;)
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: mitchy_b on September 29, 2004, 12:07:35 AM
Post by: mitchy_b on September 29, 2004, 12:07:35 AM
the reliability of the rx7 does put me off a bit :( , and your right if the engine went bang straight away i could not aford a rebuild straight up :mad:, couple of months later may be, but not if it went pop in the first month or so. But then i would only ever buy a car after getting it checked and knowing it was a sound motor.
Oh i dont know, think ill just get the money together at the end of next month and see what i have and whats about at the time. :confused: :( :rolleyes: :confused:
Oh i dont know, think ill just get the money together at the end of next month and see what i have and whats about at the time. :confused: :( :rolleyes: :confused:
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: grinder on September 29, 2004, 05:16:21 PM
Post by: grinder on September 29, 2004, 05:16:21 PM
from what i have heard you will have running cost issues with ALL cars
dont wrx throw engines occasionally and the thransfer box\'s can go ??? just what i have heard to i could be wrong
yeah its expensive for a rebuild - but once that is done - they are cheap to run - just change the oil and plugs - and thats not expensive :)
dont wrx throw engines occasionally and the thransfer box\'s can go ??? just what i have heard to i could be wrong
yeah its expensive for a rebuild - but once that is done - they are cheap to run - just change the oil and plugs - and thats not expensive :)
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Dan Norton on September 29, 2004, 07:32:18 PM
Post by: Dan Norton on September 29, 2004, 07:32:18 PM
RX7 = ....................
AWESOME
nuff said,
Dan!!:D
AWESOME
nuff said,
Dan!!:D
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: RX7Speedy on September 29, 2004, 08:44:57 PM
Post by: RX7Speedy on September 29, 2004, 08:44:57 PM
RX7`s sure are gorgeous, but there is a reliability problem. If you`re at the top of your budget buying one then it`s scary to contemplate an engine rebuild soon after. The N/A Supras are indestructable but an N/A is all show and no go. They are quite quick but not electrifying. There is a mega mint one on mkivsupra.net at the minute for 5k, so they`re cheap enough. But with your budget i`d have thought that you`d be more comfortable with a Scooby. Leave it standard and not only will it be quick but it`ll last if you look after it.
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Dan Norton on September 29, 2004, 09:35:03 PM
Post by: Dan Norton on September 29, 2004, 09:35:03 PM
Do not listen to RX& speedy....he could only have is supra turbo on the road for 3 days before it went off the road cos it had fueling problems!!!!!!!!:D :D
Sorry dave, was that the insurance reason aswell????:D :D
At least my car hasnt been featured on cruiselincs.net eh chav?!?!?!:rollin
Steer away from rx7speedys advice everyone.
dan!!
Sorry dave, was that the insurance reason aswell????:D :D
At least my car hasnt been featured on cruiselincs.net eh chav?!?!?!:rollin
Steer away from rx7speedys advice everyone.
dan!!
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Dan Norton on September 29, 2004, 09:44:08 PM
Post by: Dan Norton on September 29, 2004, 09:44:08 PM
Also....scoobies are small fry for rx7\'s...the 4 i have destroyed wont argue either :D
Dan!!
Dan!!
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Luciano on September 30, 2004, 04:02:02 PM
Post by: Luciano on September 30, 2004, 04:02:02 PM
Be ready for: 16mpg, potential £3000 rebuilds, trouble sourcing cheap parts and high insurance prices.
So why should you buy one?
Because (IMO) all of the above can be forgiven when you look at what the RX7 gives you in return.
You can go down the street racer route, and make an extremely fast car quite easily, thanks to light weight and high power. std RX7 is around 1200kg and 260bhp. std Supra non turbo is around 1800kg and 220bhp. Think of the head start you get when tuning!
Alternatively if your looking for a subtle, classy look, all you have to do is keep it standard. I turn up to work in a suit, get out of my RX7, and feel fine. No offense to Supra owners, but thanks to a certain film and the fact that young chavs can now afford to buy/insure non turbo supras, the image of the supra is nowhere near that of the RX. GTR\'s and supras/evo\'s are great cars, and they look mean as hell, but they don\'t look beautiful. RX7\'s are (most of the time) both good looking and pretty manly. If you get me. :rollin
Another reason is that the interior of the Supra is only a slightly nicer place to be than the interior of a casket. The big slab of plastic that Toyota call a dash is just hideous. All of the older Jap cars struggle with interior design, but the RX is actually pretty good. Certainly a world away from the supra.
Last but by no means least, you buy exclusivity. Although the amount of RX\'s in the UK is increasing daily, they\'re still fairly uncommon, and that can only be a good thing.
Note: all of the above is, of course, my opinion. Go to a supra forum or a GTR forum and you\'ll no doubt get a different reply!
So why should you buy one?
Because (IMO) all of the above can be forgiven when you look at what the RX7 gives you in return.
You can go down the street racer route, and make an extremely fast car quite easily, thanks to light weight and high power. std RX7 is around 1200kg and 260bhp. std Supra non turbo is around 1800kg and 220bhp. Think of the head start you get when tuning!
Alternatively if your looking for a subtle, classy look, all you have to do is keep it standard. I turn up to work in a suit, get out of my RX7, and feel fine. No offense to Supra owners, but thanks to a certain film and the fact that young chavs can now afford to buy/insure non turbo supras, the image of the supra is nowhere near that of the RX. GTR\'s and supras/evo\'s are great cars, and they look mean as hell, but they don\'t look beautiful. RX7\'s are (most of the time) both good looking and pretty manly. If you get me. :rollin
Another reason is that the interior of the Supra is only a slightly nicer place to be than the interior of a casket. The big slab of plastic that Toyota call a dash is just hideous. All of the older Jap cars struggle with interior design, but the RX is actually pretty good. Certainly a world away from the supra.
Last but by no means least, you buy exclusivity. Although the amount of RX\'s in the UK is increasing daily, they\'re still fairly uncommon, and that can only be a good thing.
Note: all of the above is, of course, my opinion. Go to a supra forum or a GTR forum and you\'ll no doubt get a different reply!
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Holmsey24 on September 30, 2004, 04:07:36 PM
Post by: Holmsey24 on September 30, 2004, 04:07:36 PM
Think that just about covers it! :cool
Title: So why should i buy an rx7?
Post by: Donato on September 30, 2004, 04:07:48 PM
Post by: Donato on September 30, 2004, 04:07:48 PM
BECAUSE THEY ARE GREAT!
You should be asking yourself WHY shouldn\'t i buy an Rx7?
;)
You should be asking yourself WHY shouldn\'t i buy an Rx7?
;)
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: sadgoth on September 30, 2004, 04:40:20 PM
Post by: sadgoth on September 30, 2004, 04:40:20 PM
hmmm,
This reliability thing grates! All high performance cars have reliability issues and high running costs, just ask a Ferrari owner if he objects to £5000 services!
Yes the rotary engine has a short ish lifespan but al engines die and of the performance engines the Rotary is one of the cheapest to rebuild!
My V4 STi wagon was good, faster than my FC but nowhere near as much fun! Also in the 8 months I owned it I needed a new clutch, had boost problems, had the limp home mode kick in 12 times and I only covered 4000 miles in the thing! Last thime I took it to a specialist they told me that they had done 2 rebuilds on the same car in 6 weeks (at £4k each!!!!) so not even the legendary Imprezza is bulletproof (although you have to be going some to blow an engine in 6 weeks!).
The RX7 is one of the most attractive cars in the world (at any price) the Supra is a bit fat to be honest and in N/A form is no match for a tuned 206GTi let alone an RX7. If you mod the pants out of a N/A you\'ll be spending £££££ and shortening the engine life. Not sure but I suspect the rebuild cost on a 3.0 Supra block would be a hell of a lot more than the 13b REW!
I\'ll get off my soapbox now
QuoteBECAUSE THEY ARE GREAT!about does it!
This reliability thing grates! All high performance cars have reliability issues and high running costs, just ask a Ferrari owner if he objects to £5000 services!
Yes the rotary engine has a short ish lifespan but al engines die and of the performance engines the Rotary is one of the cheapest to rebuild!
My V4 STi wagon was good, faster than my FC but nowhere near as much fun! Also in the 8 months I owned it I needed a new clutch, had boost problems, had the limp home mode kick in 12 times and I only covered 4000 miles in the thing! Last thime I took it to a specialist they told me that they had done 2 rebuilds on the same car in 6 weeks (at £4k each!!!!) so not even the legendary Imprezza is bulletproof (although you have to be going some to blow an engine in 6 weeks!).
The RX7 is one of the most attractive cars in the world (at any price) the Supra is a bit fat to be honest and in N/A form is no match for a tuned 206GTi let alone an RX7. If you mod the pants out of a N/A you\'ll be spending £££££ and shortening the engine life. Not sure but I suspect the rebuild cost on a 3.0 Supra block would be a hell of a lot more than the 13b REW!
I\'ll get off my soapbox now
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: RX7Speedy on September 30, 2004, 06:54:33 PM
Post by: RX7Speedy on September 30, 2004, 06:54:33 PM
I`ll never win this battle but 7.5k will just buy a Supra Twin Turbo. UK ones are 326bhp as standard. As for reliability, a well known Supra specialist services one that has over 300k on the clock. If you`re stretching to spend that much i wouldn`t have either. It`ll only take a problem with either car and you`re talking big money. Set your standards slightly lower and work your way up.
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Luciano on September 30, 2004, 09:02:26 PM
Post by: Luciano on September 30, 2004, 09:02:26 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by RX7Speedy
7.5k will just buy a Supra Twin Turbo. UK ones are 326bhp as standard.
Maybe an automatic, but I don\'t think you\'ll get a manual turbo for £7.5..
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: MikeLMR on September 30, 2004, 09:10:17 PM
Post by: MikeLMR on September 30, 2004, 09:10:17 PM
you should buy an rx7 because YOU want to no one else can tell you why
P.S moving to the correct forum
P.S moving to the correct forum
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Matt.Wild on September 30, 2004, 10:14:22 PM
Post by: Matt.Wild on September 30, 2004, 10:14:22 PM
Doubt you\'d get a UK Supra Twin Turbo for £7.5k. I\'d be suprised if you saw much change from about £12k maybe 13k :eek
TBH, i\'d be happy with any of the cars you\'ve mentioned and personally recently considered them all too. I\'m prolly going down the Rx7 root as they are IMO the best looking car and most exclusive (read rare) of the jap performance cars in the UK.
My other choice was a WRX scooby. Prolly is a better choice for me thanks to the naff Welsh roads around me :(
TBH, i\'d be happy with any of the cars you\'ve mentioned and personally recently considered them all too. I\'m prolly going down the Rx7 root as they are IMO the best looking car and most exclusive (read rare) of the jap performance cars in the UK.
My other choice was a WRX scooby. Prolly is a better choice for me thanks to the naff Welsh roads around me :(
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: MikeLMR on September 30, 2004, 10:20:11 PM
Post by: MikeLMR on September 30, 2004, 10:20:11 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Matt.Wild
naff Welsh roads around me :(
you are joking right :eek: say that on a road rally forum and you\'ll get lynched !
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Matt.Wild on September 30, 2004, 10:23:39 PM
Post by: Matt.Wild on September 30, 2004, 10:23:39 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by MikeLMR
you are joking right :eek: say that on a road rally forum and you\'ll get lynched !
Maybe ideal for a scooby but no so for the rex!
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: Flat_Steve on September 30, 2004, 11:51:04 PM
Post by: Flat_Steve on September 30, 2004, 11:51:04 PM
I think I\'d kinda agree with that! Most low-slung sports cars with stiff suspension prefer flat smooth asphalt...
Title: so why should i buy a RX7
Post by: MikeLMR on October 01, 2004, 12:08:06 PM
Post by: MikeLMR on October 01, 2004, 12:08:06 PM
all the more reason not lower a car and put rediculously low profile tyres on it