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Title: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 14, 2020, 10:48:44 AM

Morning all
Thought Iâ€™d better start a project thread rather than keep adding to my â€œIâ€™m new here thread â€œ
So after two successful Greddy turbo conversions to my 8 itâ€™s time for the next project ..
After reading Cliveâ€™s race car build thread I was inspired to lose the last bit of hair I have and copy it . So Iâ€™ll be selling the Greddy kit and replacing with an FD engine . I know itâ€™s a lot of work but Iâ€™ll still have my standard engine car for Trackdays in the meantime .providing Trackdays go ahead due to the current pandemic .
Iâ€™ve been trolling for sale pages for the last few months and appear to have bought the basics to make a start , RX8 FD engine mount , engine , manifolds and a few other bits . First thing Iâ€™ll be doing is assembling all on the bench to see how it bolts together and see whatâ€™s missing .
So if anyone has any photos of a fully built up engine with ancillaries on a bench please feel free to post them up . This will help me a lot as I donâ€™t even know how it all bolts together yet .

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on March 14, 2020, 01:26:34 PM

I wish you well with your "new" project and know it will be a lot of work, but it will make an awsome road/track car

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 14, 2020, 02:02:17 PM

Quote from: clive on March 14, 2020, 01:26:34 PM
I wish you well with your "new" project and know it will be a lot of work, but it will make an awsome road/track car

Thanks Clive
Or should I call it copy project

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2020, 09:21:11 AM

I think I got most bits except housings / irons to build another engine (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200315/30972a31c4b3ce122432f58245e697e9.jpg)
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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2020, 09:22:13 AM

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 11:31:51 AM

Looks like a good project you got going on

I wish I was working on oily bits now

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2020, 01:07:19 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 11:31:51 AM
Looks like a good project you got going on

I wish I was working on oily bits now

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Yep got my hands full for at least next 12 months
No oily hands today yet , busy on ewe tube to see how it goes together

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 01:09:16 PM

Lol @ ewe tube... is that like welsh you tube?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 15, 2020, 01:17:08 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 01:09:16 PM
Lol @ ewe tube... is that like welsh you tube?

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Ha ha sure is
Exactly the same only different

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 01:18:03 PM

Ya gotta love a welsh accent

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 16, 2020, 06:17:14 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on March 15, 2020, 01:18:03 PM
Ya gotta love a welsh accent

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Really??
Many will differ lol

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 16, 2020, 06:19:48 PM

Looks like I got away lucky at a track day in Llandow last week (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200316/cbcc11066324d466eb036ff48cd531f2.jpg)
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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2020, 07:26:34 PM

Is it missing or snapped off...
Blimey....i once drove a golf to mot with the track rod end securing nut missing....doer upper between mates....i tore him a new 1!! As he forgot and put the wheel on.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on March 16, 2020, 08:12:55 PM

Wow, I have got to think the shank of the bolt is still in there acting like a dowel and that kept the calliper in place

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2020, 09:22:01 PM

Blimey Wayne you got loads of bits!!!

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 16, 2020, 09:25:46 PM

Nope itâ€™s gone , nowt in there
I donâ€™t , well did t have a torque wrench so when tightened Spanner tight Iâ€™d always stick a spanner and slap it with a rubber mallet a few times .
Done it for years .......

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 16, 2020, 09:28:29 PM

Quote from: boosted on March 16, 2020, 09:22:01 PM
Blimey Wayne you got loads of bits!!!

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Yep none to get me further than this

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on March 16, 2020, 09:33:18 PM

Loom injectors..brap brap...
If your following clives build rx8 loom..electric throttle. Rx8 pcm with a piggy back adaptronic for boost...nice throttle control and idle. Rx8 dash will work then etc...
Thats how id do it!

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 17, 2020, 08:51:51 AM

Quote from: boosted on March 16, 2020, 09:33:18 PM
Loom injectors..brap brap...
If your following clives build rx8 loom..electric throttle. Rx8 pcm with a piggy back adaptronic for boost...nice throttle control and idle. Rx8 dash will work then etc...
Thats how id do it!

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Loom - got 2 of them
injectors - just primary so far
brap brap...ha ha
If your following clives build - unless thereâ€™s another way to do it ?
rx8 loom..electric throttle. - this is where Iâ€™ll need to learn a lot of using the RX8 throttle body
Rx8 pcm with a piggy back adaptronic for boost...- I have the new modular one so will need to find out what special stuff that can do compared to the piggy back one
nice throttle control and idle. Rx8 dash will work then etc...
Thats how id do it!

just like that lol

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 04, 2020, 11:23:55 AM

Done my final bit of aero on my track car before I get the other one up to start the swap
Diffuser - took about 60 hours in total
20 of them was me getting up and down from the floor . If this virus doesnâ€™t kill the economy Iâ€™ll be lifting my garage roof 3 foot to fit a 2 poster (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/986e3f35e7d59be5a38f5d1557f9bf82.jpg)
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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 04, 2020, 11:31:20 AM

Looking at some photography from the last track day I done it seems I have bent the front splitter up in the middle whilst loading it on the trailer
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If you zoom in itâ€™s pretty clear
Whipped the bumper off and found the culprit - a bent metal hanger (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/de20c6b93255902a90f4404112e9afa8.jpg)
Time to invest in some caravan ramps to put under the rear wheels of the van to make the loading angle of the trailer better .
Itâ€™ll be touch and go weather I need to trim the back of the diffuser slightly too (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/e5b30e3b3bfcd7a51c4cc6a30c1dcbe1.jpg)
Got a car to strip in next few days then itâ€™ll be time to start the build
Canâ€™t wait , but also am feeling quite nervous as I donâ€™t know a lot yet . reading about it is one thing - putting it together - totally different

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on April 04, 2020, 11:39:33 AM

Christ you did well in 60 hours, you should come work for me lol.

Looks impressive, Iâ€™d be interested to know if all the mods have made a noticeable difference

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 04, 2020, 12:47:11 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on April 04, 2020, 11:39:33 AM
Christ you did well in 60 hours, you should come work for me lol.

Looks impressive, Iâ€™d be interested to know if all the mods have made a noticeable difference

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The wing and splitter did
Could be waiting a while to test the diffuser tho ........

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 28, 2020, 07:00:56 PM

Donor car is in (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200428/1a59a948e83cdf27bdc0d6cbd0ceae30.jpg)
Iâ€™m currently on half days in work so got stuck in earlier
4 hours and itâ€™s out (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200428/d1815b1e67b61dbe2602c2926b563984.jpg)
No idea what Iâ€™m doing next but Iâ€™m optimistic

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 08:16:04 PM

Impressive garage mr spiller :icon_thumleft:

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 28, 2020, 09:15:59 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 08:16:04 PM
Impressive garage mr spiller :icon_thumleft:

Thanks Jamie itâ€™s a tip
Raining next few days so a good clean , clean shed and dump all the shite in there

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 09:19:13 PM

Lol if that's a tip don't venture into mine, constantly looks like a flour factory

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Post by: Casey on April 28, 2020, 10:05:31 PM

Lovely big, open space though :13:

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 10:15:06 PM

Are you using the stock FD twin turbos on this project?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 08:31:12 AM

Quote from: Jamie R on April 28, 2020, 09:19:13 PM
Lol if that's a tip don't venture into mine, constantly looks like a flour factory

yep I bet it does
More like a Columbiaâ€™n garden centre

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 08:32:15 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 10:15:06 PM
Are you using the stock FD twin turbos on this project?

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Single is the plan
Iâ€™m pretty sure I was told that twins donâ€™t quite fit

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 09:10:40 AM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 08:32:15 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 10:15:06 PM
Are you using the stock FD twin turbos on this project?

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Single is the plan
Iâ€™m pretty sure I was told that twins donâ€™t quite fit

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Yeh I would say they don't fit, I just saw you had the twin turbo manifold and parts in your collection.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 09:18:01 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 09:10:40 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 08:32:15 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 28, 2020, 10:15:06 PM
Are you using the stock FD twin turbos on this project?

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Single is the plan
Iâ€™m pretty sure I was told that twins donâ€™t quite fit

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Yeh I would say they don't fit, I just saw you had the twin turbo manifold and parts in your collection.

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The engine came with loads of bits
Not really sure whatâ€™s what as yet

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 11:41:02 AM

Are you going to try keep all the rx wiring and use a DBW throttle of just make the engine standalone?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 11:45:49 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 11:41:02 AM
Are you going to try keep all the rx wiring and use a DBW throttle of just make the engine standalone?

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Grant
Iâ€™m not sure what capacity the adaptronic modular has yet .
Plan for the minute is get it sitting in the donor car , which is just an old 192 which has sat down bottom of drive for last 5 years , put on what Iâ€™ve got , check it fits
See what Iâ€™ve got and do a shopping list .
This will take a while to complete
Oh yeah
And read clives build again ...........

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 01:20:21 PM

Soon as you have mede some engine mounts everything should be fairly straight forward.

The fd engine mounts from the rear and the rx8 mounts from the centre

If you are making this a full on racing car then I would honestly just get rid of most of the rx8 crap you can

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 01:29:43 PM

Stick the Adaptronic part number up Wayne! Ill do some research. Be nice to have working 8 dash cluster etc...Clives is a piggy back Adaptronic works in conjunction with std ecu. Runs everything Rx8 fans hvac dash etc. Then the adaptronic takes care of the engine tuning. Its rather nice and neat.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 05:48:15 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 01:20:21 PM
Soon as you have mede some engine mounts everything should be fairly straight forward.

The fd engine mounts from the rear and the rx8 mounts from the centre

If you are making this a full on racing car then I would honestly just get rid of most of the rx8 crap you can

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Not sure about a full race car but full on track car for now
I hope this should sort the mounts (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200429/23f1f08663ee91b57b4d60ab03a62daf.jpg)
So yeah just keep the best bits from the 8 and bin the rest

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 05:49:34 PM

Quote from: boosted on April 29, 2020, 01:29:43 PM
Stick the Adaptronic part number up Wayne! Ill do some research. Be nice to have working 8 dash cluster etc...Clives is a piggy back Adaptronic works in conjunction with std ecu. Runs everything Rx8 fans hvac dash etc. Then the adaptronic takes care of the engine tuning. Its rather nice and neat.

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Here you go buddy (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200429/d35b6d6bdfefc85b2b169f35e3a21d60.jpg)
I have the piggy back one on T1

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 05:59:42 PM

Cool...same as Clives i believe. Upto you if you use cable throttle or fly by wire...id use Fly by wire...i know the 8 will go into limp if the throttle is not power cycled by the etv relay after ign 2. Whether the adaptronic ignores that im unsure.
Youll get nice idle!! Retain peddle etc...just gotta make a plenum like Clives.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 06:02:25 PM

Now to see what bits are missing from this
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Now to find out how much of the firewall needs a slight hammering

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 06:07:46 PM

Quote from: boosted on April 29, 2020, 05:59:42 PM
Cool...same as Clives i believe. Upto you if you use cable throttle or fly by wire...id use Fly by wire...i know the 8 will go into limp if the throttle is not power cycled by the etv relay after ign 2. Whether the adaptronic ignores that im unsure.
Youll get nice idle!! Retain peddle etc...just gotta make a plenum like Clives.

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Nah this is the modular so standard Ecu is binned

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on April 29, 2020, 07:01:11 PM

But it plugs into rx8 5 pcm plugs?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 08:54:29 PM

Quote from: boosted on April 29, 2020, 07:01:11 PM
But it plugs into rx8 5 pcm plugs?

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Ha ha now youâ€™ve lost me

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 09:01:36 PM

Quote from: boosted on April 29, 2020, 07:01:11 PM
But it plugs into rx8 5 pcm plugs?

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Should have explained myself better
Yes it plugs in , but origanal Ecu is binned and it takes its place , no piggy back like I had In T1
To try and work abs etc ( for us novice drivers) is quite difficult as itâ€™s done in percentages I think rather than real time which the piggy back handled better like the DSC too

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 10:31:25 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 05:48:15 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 01:20:21 PM
Soon as you have mede some engine mounts everything should be fairly straight forward.

The fd engine mounts from the rear and the rx8 mounts from the centre

If you are making this a full on racing car then I would honestly just get rid of most of the rx8 crap you can

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Not sure about a full race car but full on track car for now
I hope this should sort the mounts (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200429/23f1f08663ee91b57b4d60ab03a62daf.jpg)
So yeah just keep the best bits from the 8 and bin the rest

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Yeh I found that mount whilst go ogling, makes thing a lot easier. Wish I had an Fd engine lol

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 30, 2020, 09:51:41 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 10:31:25 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 29, 2020, 05:48:15 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 29, 2020, 01:20:21 PM
Soon as you have mede some engine mounts everything should be fairly straight forward.

The fd engine mounts from the rear and the rx8 mounts from the centre

If you are making this a full on racing car then I would honestly just get rid of most of the rx8 crap you can

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Not sure about a full race car but full on track car for now
I hope this should sort the mounts (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200429/23f1f08663ee91b57b4d60ab03a62daf.jpg)
So yeah just keep the best bits from the 8 and bin the rest

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Yeh I found that mount whilst go ogling, makes thing a lot easier. Wish I had an Fd engine lol

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Iâ€™ve just had a look
Much more difficult for yours

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 01, 2020, 06:45:30 PM

Started emptying the boxes to see what fits . I was told the manifold would need some adapting but itâ€™s a good start .
Had to remove the water filler by the thermostat but Iâ€™m not sure if the electric water pump may help there . Iâ€™ll
Dig that out next (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/62467c200559d0fa8121fc6c642d2d8a.jpg)
Temporary bolted the turbo on
Bloody hell its heavy
Needed a socket extension bar to hold the engine to stop it from toppling . Might need a support bracket (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/7314a8b8947a98c63008a98e65889448.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/6e2e4e03a7678f9b979a1600a195b07b.jpg)
Exhaust pipe is too close but not far off
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Slow progress but plenty of time . Just hope Iâ€™ve put it together correctly , biggest turbo Iâ€™ve played with is Greddy which is the size of a large clenched fist.
Iâ€™ll take the upper inlet manifold off and offer in tomorrow and see how mush of the firewall needs adjustment
Reference what grant said about the rx8 throttle body , seen this earlier
Should do the job (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/f08108963f1f320db0f6c8850b446312.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200501/98fb13c6cf41da5d9845eca3836454a8.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on May 01, 2020, 06:50:08 PM

Looking good Wayne

Should be an animal when it's done

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on May 01, 2020, 06:52:07 PM

Very nice!!

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 01, 2020, 07:05:23 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on May 01, 2020, 06:50:08 PM
Looking good Wayne

Should be an animal when it's done

One day I hope

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 01, 2020, 07:08:34 PM

Quote from: boosted on May 01, 2020, 06:52:07 PM
Very nice!!

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Be better if all fitted

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on May 02, 2020, 05:15:19 AM

Holy crap, thats a big snail

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 09:34:17 AM

Quote from: re japi on May 02, 2020, 05:15:19 AM
Holy crap, thats a big snail

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Ha ha yep
I bought a load of stuff together and that was one of them
Just had a look online , judging by the numbers stamped itâ€™s a
Borg Warner air works S400SX3-75/S475( T4 turbine )
Possibly a bit too big for what I need ,
Worth a try I guess

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on May 02, 2020, 10:14:45 AM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 09:34:17 AM
Quote from: re japi on May 02, 2020, 05:15:19 AM
Holy crap, thats a big snail

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Ha ha yep
I bought a load of stuff together and that was one of them
Just had a look online , judging by the numbers stamped itâ€™s a
Borg Warner air works S400SX3-75/S475( T4 turbine )
Possibly a bit too big for what I need ,
Worth a try I guess

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That a frickin big turbo!

I mean, I reckon its far too big for you...

Boost comes at 6000rpm, and hits you like sledgehammer

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on May 02, 2020, 10:45:22 AM

Adapter is a real easy route. I will confess the reason I devised a different inlet was that I did feel an adaptor didn't flow into the FD plenham properly and would rob power so I devised my own inlet . You will also find that either the engine will have to sit very low (too low), or you will have to modify the bulk head where it sweeps forward.

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 11:22:03 AM

Quote from: clive on May 02, 2020, 10:45:22 AM
Adapter is a real easy route. I will confess the reason I devised a different inlet was that I did feel an adaptor didn't flow into the FD plenham properly and would rob power so I devised my own inlet . You will also find that either the engine will have to sit very low (too low), or you will have to modify the bulk head where it sweeps forward.

Thanks for sharing the info and photo Clive
Iâ€™m going to offer the engine in without it and see how much needs adjusting .
Looks quite a lot so may need plan B.
Where could I get a set of studs /(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200502/cb033b52b3264bc857d8e618d7f5ef84.jpg)
bolts as per following photo ?
Thanks

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2020, 11:25:29 AM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 09:34:17 AM
Quote from: re japi on May 02, 2020, 05:15:19 AM
Holy crap, thats a big snail

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Ha ha yep
I bought a load of stuff together and that was one of them
Just had a look online , judging by the numbers stamped itâ€™s a
Borg Warner air works S400SX3-75/S475( T4 turbine )
Possibly a bit too big for what I need ,
Worth a try I guess

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That is a big turbo, what porting are you running?

I'm running an s366, which is smaller than yours, good for 600hp, I have a full bridge port motor, but I have also got a small 0.88 rear housing as It is a single entry turbine housing.

If I used a dual entry turbine housing I would go up to the 0.96 rear housing.

The turbo should spool really quickly with the porting

However I am looking at getting another turbo, an S480 with a billet compressor wheel, 1.32 at turbine House on a T6 dual entry. Should be OK for drag racing, maybe not so much for track car due to slower response.

What size is the turbine housing? If you got a smaller one you would probably have clearence and it will spool faster

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on May 02, 2020, 12:24:25 PM

Yeah, cause mine is S300 series, even tho its Shwitzer, but basically same as Clive has. With 1,16AR it can do around 530 horses @ 1,6 boost and it spools around 3000-3500 rpm. And with big big D shape exhaust ports and BridgePort...

So, that size turbo wont spool, ever

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 01:06:53 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2020, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 09:34:17 AM
Quote from: re japi on May 02, 2020, 05:15:19 AM
Holy crap, thats a big snail

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Ha ha yep
I bought a load of stuff together and that was one of them
Just had a look online , judging by the numbers stamped itâ€™s a
Borg Warner air works S400SX3-75/S475( T4 turbine )
Possibly a bit too big for what I need ,
Worth a try I guess

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That is a big turbo, what porting are you running?

I'm running an s366, which is smaller than yours, good for 600hp, I have a full bridge port motor, but I have also got a small 0.88 rear housing as It is a single entry turbine housing.

If I used a dual entry turbine housing I would go up to the 0.96 rear housing.

The turbo should spool really quickly with the porting

However I am looking at getting another turbo, an S480 with a billet compressor wheel, 1.32 at turbine House on a T6 dual entry. Should be OK for drag racing, maybe not so much for track car due to slower response.

What size is the turbine housing? If you got a smaller one you would probably have clearence and it will spool faster

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The engine itâ€™s on at the mo is supposed to be full bridge port , with ported inlet and exhaust ports . I bought it cheap without a compression test , just seen videos of it running .
It will eventually be going a different engine which apparently has Cosmo end and centre plates , the inlet ports are much bigger Iâ€™ll get some measurements and photos up over the next week .
That engine hasnâ€™t been run since the rebuild , this is the one I had the turbo with .
As for turbo sizes etc I dont yet have a clue , this is another learning curve for me so Iâ€™m open to any help and advise
Thanks
Wayne

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on May 02, 2020, 01:28:34 PM

Well, same here, Im just learning turbo stuff. But I know one thing, that is one massive turbo

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 02:27:36 PM

Quote from: re japi on May 02, 2020, 01:28:34 PM
Well, same here, Im just learning turbo stuff. But I know one thing, that is one massive turbo

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I totally agree
I can see it being too big , i think it was bought for outright speed not drive ability

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on May 02, 2020, 02:28:19 PM

Wayne, the thread size is standard M8, I just just normal bolts in mine.

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2020, 02:43:28 PM

It think with the full bridge it will be just fine, it's going to pull hard up the rev range for sure I rekon.

Cosmo plates, nice. Wouldn't mind some of those myself. They have the largest stock ports of all the plates

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 06:20:44 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 02, 2020, 02:43:28 PM
It think with the full bridge it will be just fine, it's going to pull hard up the rev range for sure I rekon.

Cosmo plates, nice. Wouldn't mind some of those myself. They have the largest stock ports of all the plates

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Yep
Roughly 13mm on the height, thatâ€™s a lot (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200502/bc8f9c9b3387916b79ade89f92523fd4.jpg)
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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 06:22:02 PM

Quote from: clive on May 02, 2020, 02:28:19 PM
Wayne, the thread size is standard M8, I just just normal bolts in mine.

Thanks Clive
A few different lengths , job done
Appreciate the advice (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200502/9d3933ffd820fd0388fe5d24a16be3e9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 06:25:35 PM

Question
If I use electric water pump like this (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200502/22329767c4f79459c4af4375858fe210.jpg)
I then wonâ€™t have a thermostat .
How long would the engine take to warm up properly without one .
With my RX8 I always make sure I have decent oil temp rather than water temp before I turn it off when starting from cold

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on May 02, 2020, 07:39:41 PM

Wayne, the race car has always had an electric pump and it warms up probably no longer than a normal car, make sure you wire it to run all the time though, as that way you will never run the risk of damaging the engine by forgetting to turn it on.

I see you have a side mount alternator bracket.
That was the biggest mistake I made because a stock alternator wonâ€™t fit because the chassis rail is in the way.

If you read my thread, first of all I ran a small motorsport alternator and it couldnâ€™t keep up with the fuel pumps.
Cost me a fortune having a custom alternator made using the small body with special internals.

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 09:36:16 PM

Quote from: clive on May 02, 2020, 07:39:41 PM
Wayne, the race car has always had an electric pump and it warms up probably no longer than a normal car, make sure you wire it to run all the time though, as that way you will never run the risk of damaging the engine by forgetting to turn it on.

I see you have a side mount alternator bracket.
That was the biggest mistake I made because a stock alternator wonâ€™t fit because the chassis rail is in the way.

If you read my thread, first of all I ran a small motorsport alternator and it couldnâ€™t keep up with the fuel pumps.
Cost me a fortune having a custom alternator made using the small body with special internals.

Clive I remember reading about your alternator , it cost you a small fortune
I plan on using SPA gauges which I had with the electric water pump which SHOULD

kick the pump in and keep it running when it hits target temperature
Sounds good
Not sure yet tho .........
Thanks for the advice

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 02, 2020, 09:48:39 PM

Iâ€™ll keep this short
Iâ€™m knackered itâ€™s late
Itâ€™s in - loads of bits removed
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Will update tomorrow

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 03:02:51 PM

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Not even half way yet
Firewall -1
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Big boy lump hammer -0

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on May 03, 2020, 03:32:50 PM

lol you brute !

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on May 03, 2020, 04:03:06 PM

Get it hot with hot airgun...

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on May 03, 2020, 04:29:28 PM

Pls take the engine out first....if you whacked the engine....the thought makes me shudder.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 04:51:02 PM

Quote from: boosted on May 03, 2020, 04:29:28 PM
Pls take the engine out first....if you whacked the engine....the thought makes me shudder.

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Sorry boss

I did take the alternator off tho for a good swing
I used heat by means of a grinder (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200503/b3e8c9251efefbb60e70c816bec954a7.jpg)
Itâ€™s bloody tight (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200503/cb2be911495104ad611daa3e27f84d82.jpg)
Eventually will be beaten back further and welded
Itâ€™s a bit tight for the upper intake too (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200503/72e6da520ab44d2f21afc21b40774c73.jpg)
Needs to go back another inch yet

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 04:55:06 PM

Question again
If I buy one of these (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200503/35ce837caa60f4d9828c1e5db4e16c0d.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200503/1dac2d42783e6313408cd270d5c890ec.jpg)
Do I then lose the 7 throttle body ?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200503/fe98d4f3a9ffd4441ac59593652140ce.jpg)
Well
Thatâ€™s what my thinking is ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 05:03:06 PM

Yes you will be getting rid of that throttle body if you are converting to an rx8 DBW throttle body

Have you thought of using an fd gear box instead of an rx8? They're longer so engine doesn't have to go back as far or are you having to move it further back to sit on the mount you have?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 05:08:49 PM

Just so you know your not the only one to struggle with clearence,, this is as close as I can get mine, actually wanted it further forward another 20mm but just makes the job harder with more cutting and stuff, my gear box is almost in the stock mx5 position.

If I had an rx8 box and clutch it would require me to do as your doing as the 8s is shorter

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 05:14:00 PM

It's tight isn't it(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200503/5ee8b837ecb388d35ef5fb9345688b85.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200503/5464cdefc23bcf63d9adb1af3e0a415f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 05:18:14 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 05:03:06 PM
Yes you will be getting rid of that throttle body if you are converting to an rx8 DBW throttle body

Have you thought of using an fd gear box instead of an rx8? They're longer so engine doesn't have to go back as far or are you having to move it further back to sit on the mount you have?

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Thanks Grant
It is currently sat on the mount so that would have to be adapted if I put an FD box and I have a selection of 5 and 6 speed boxes here for the 8 .
Good news on the throttle body then as the 7 one is huge .this will mean a lot less cutting of the firewall .
Wow yours is tight , but not that bad , at least you still got room for brake lines .
Thereâ€™s always the option of getting one like Clive had made I suppose
Food for thought I guess
Thanks again Grant

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 06:23:24 PM

I think some of the aftermarket lower inlet manifolds, excessive and elite rotaries, help lower the upper inlet manifold. Would that help if the upper inlet was lower for clearence?

Added benefit of those is also better air flow per rotor and they have 4 Injector ports on the LIM so you just use 1 fuel rail.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 06:27:12 PM

The aftermarket LIM also move the UIM forward

Look at this picture

Just giving you ideas for clearencing instead of pound the 8 to pieces

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 06:34:45 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 06:27:12 PM
The aftermarket LIM also move the UIM forward

Look at this picture

Just giving you ideas for clearencing instead of pound the 8 to pieces

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200503/1f8016bdc8796c6699063a69fd79bcd7.jpg)

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Grant thanks
The beating of firewall was ok to start but my backs in half now
Iâ€™ll look into elite and excessive later or tomorrow , especially if I only need one fuel rail
I donâ€™t think I have one yet nor injectors yet

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 06:41:51 PM

Iv very rarely come across any second hand but they are around.

If you have the rail with 4 injectors then you can block off the Injector ports in the centre iron Or run 6 x 1000cc Injectors OR some 2200 CCs if your looking for some huge power out of that turbi

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 06:47:29 PM

https://xcessivemanufacturing.com/mazda/rx-7/fd.html

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 06:48:52 PM

https://eliterotaryshop.com/shop/ols/products/elite-rotary-shop-rx7-fd-performance-intake-system-pre-order

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 07:03:40 PM

Iv also got the number of a lad that deals in breaking fds too so I could pass on his number and he may be able to help

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 07:04:24 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 06:41:51 PM
Iv very rarely come across any second hand but they are around.

If you have the rail with 4 injectors then you can block off the Injector ports in the centre iron Or run 6 x 1000cc Injectors OR some 2200 CCs if your looking for some huge power out of that turbi

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Grant Iâ€™m not looking for stupid power
If I had 350 and it was really drivable Iâ€™d be happy
Looks like the excessive is way more pocket friendly than the elite
Iâ€™m sure the more expensive is always better

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 07:14:41 PM

I'd go for the excessive too as with the elite you would have to buy the whole Intake instead of just the LIM

You are going to make more than 350 with that turbo for sure, just on how much air it flows, plus the bridge ports, your going to most likely pushing 450-500 at 1 bar at a guess

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 07:18:45 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 07:14:41 PM
I'd go for the excessive too as with the elite you would have to buy the whole Intake instead of just the LIM

You are going to make more than 350 with that turbo for sure, just on how much air it flows, plus the bridge ports, your going to most likely pushing 450-500 at 1 bar at a guess

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Best start soaking my balls in manure to make them grow for that BHP

Iâ€™ll just ha e to check how much lower it is than standard .
But , realistically , itâ€™s needed due to the increased air speed so Iâ€™ll need to order u less thereâ€™s a cheaper / better one on the market .
Iâ€™m all good for saving money but if itâ€™s needed Iâ€™ll just have to bite the bullet and order it
Cheers

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 07:22:38 PM

Right
Current hit rate is 10 hits and a sip of bud
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Be quite Merry soon
Shoulders aching
Nearly there

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 07:45:05 PM

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Ohhh thatâ€™s tight - just fits tho
Needs to be lower , such a waste of space
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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on May 03, 2020, 07:45:39 PM

Couple of things.

Use the RX-8 box as the first four ratios are the same as an FD box with fifth just a little higher.

Donâ€™t use the 6 speed box, I broke 4 and 2 while mapping !

Grant you can use an FD box in an 8 or visa versa, by changing the bell housing and tail shaft cover, so every thing stays in the correct places.

For 350 brake, stay with 1680 secondaryâ€™s and the lilac coloured 550cc for primarys (you will also find good MPG when off boost)
You wont need any more injector for that and I only use 1680 / 850's for 520 brake

p.s. have 5mm off each flange face and that would help but I still think the sump will sit too low. ( I flattend two sumps on track)

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 07:54:13 PM

Quote from: clive on May 03, 2020, 07:45:39 PM
Couple of things.

Use the RX-8 box as the first four ratios are the same as an FD box with fifth just a little higher.

Donâ€™t use the 6 speed box, I broke 4 and 2 while mapping !

Grant you can use an FD box in an 8 or visa versa, by changing the bell housing and tail shaft cover, so every thing stays in the correct places.

For 350 brake, stay with 1680 secondaryâ€™s and the lilac coloured 550cc for primarys (you will also find good MPG when off boost)
You wont need any more injector for that and I only use 1680 / 850's for 520 brake

p.s. have 5mm off each flange face and that would help but I still think the sump will sit too low. ( I flattend two sumps on track)

What do you have to change if you use an rx8 gear box bell housing on the fd gear box? Will the clutch need changing?

I'm definately going to get an rx8 5 speed gear box as fd ones sell for a lot more

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on May 03, 2020, 08:05:20 PM

You use the stock RX-8 push type clutch with the RX-8 belhousing or FD bellhousing if you want the pull type .

Also RX-8 boxes have a kinder life with less power going through them.

I worked out that you are forever hearing about S1 and R3 boxes dieing but not 192 boxes.

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 08:09:24 PM

Quote from: clive on May 03, 2020, 07:45:39 PM
Couple of things.

Use the RX-8 box as the first four ratios are the same as an FD box with fifth just a little higher.

Donâ€™t use the 6 speed box, I broke 4 and 2 while mapping !

Grant you can use an FD box in an 8 or visa versa, by changing the bell housing and tail shaft cover, so every thing stays in the correct places.

For 350 brake, stay with 1680 secondaryâ€™s and the lilac coloured 550cc for primarys (you will also find good MPG when off boost)
You wont need any more injector for that and I only use 1680 / 850's for 520 brake

p.s. have 5mm off each flange face and that would help but I still think the sump will sit too low. ( I flattend two sumps on track)

Clive
Good idea
You mean shave the bush on the engine mount ? I like that Iâ€™ll try it . Sump is currently same height as the Greddy on my 8 . so itâ€™ll run another 10 mm lower , I could get some harder compound bushes made I guess .
I donâ€™t suppose you kept any templates for the the intake manifolds you had Built . Judging by the photo you added it seems to work a treat ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 08:12:42 PM

Quote from: clive on May 03, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
You use the stock RX-8 push type clutch with the RX-8 belhousing or FD bellhousing if you want the pull type .

Also RX-8 boxes have a kinder life with less power going through them.

I worked out that you are forever hearing about S1 and R3 boxes dieing but not 192 boxes.

I agree
Iâ€™ve been through 2of the 6 speed boxes in my 8
3-4 gear starts grinding / falling apart
Iâ€™ve used the 5 speed box and it was brilliant , real strong .
Only problem in the 8 , the jump between 3 and 4th was huge and it struggled to gain momentum in 4th

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 08:17:39 PM

Quote from: clive on May 03, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
You use the stock RX-8 push type clutch with the RX-8 belhousing or FD bellhousing if you want the pull type .

Also RX-8 boxes have a kinder life with less power going through them.

I worked out that you are forever hearing about S1 and R3 boxes dieing but not 192 boxes.

Just looked at ebay for how much GD gear boxes are up for sale, 500 quid.

5 speed rx8s are 100-150

6 speeds are 250

Think I need to look at running rx8 stuff and sell the fd gear box

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 08:18:10 PM

Another question
Is it shorter clutch slave cylinder or oil filter housing location ? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200503/ca0337d9fe41216e60d6b53dc3457457.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 08:18:40 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 08:09:24 PM
Quote from: clive on May 03, 2020, 07:45:39 PM
Couple of things.

Use the RX-8 box as the first four ratios are the same as an FD box with fifth just a little higher.

Donâ€™t use the 6 speed box, I broke 4 and 2 while mapping !

Grant you can use an FD box in an 8 or visa versa, by changing the bell housing and tail shaft cover, so every thing stays in the correct places.

For 350 brake, stay with 1680 secondaryâ€™s and the lilac coloured 550cc for primarys (you will also find good MPG when off boost)
You wont need any more injector for that and I only use 1680 / 850's for 520 brake

p.s. have 5mm off each flange face and that would help but I still think the sump will sit too low. ( I flattend two sumps on track)
Clive
Good idea
You mean shave the bush on the engine mount ? I like that Iâ€™ll try it . Sump is currently same height as the Greddy on my 8 . so itâ€™ll run another 10 mm lower , I could get some harder compound bushes made I guess .
I donâ€™t suppose you kept any templates for the the intake manifolds you had Built . Judging by the photo you added it seems to work a treat ?

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I think Clive using a lower inlet manifold from racing beat? Then custom upper?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 08:20:06 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 08:17:39 PM
Quote from: clive on May 03, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
You use the stock RX-8 push type clutch with the RX-8 belhousing or FD bellhousing if you want the pull type .

Also RX-8 boxes have a kinder life with less power going through them.

I worked out that you are forever hearing about S1 and R3 boxes dieing but not 192 boxes.
Just looked at ebay for how much GD gear boxes are up for sale, 500 quid.

5 speed rx8s are 100-150

6 speeds are 250

Think I need to look at running rx8 stuff and sell the fd gear box

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5 speed youâ€™ll pick up for Â£50.00 , easy if not cheaper
6 speed are Â£150.00 normally as they stick them in Mk 2 escort rally cars

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 08:41:12 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 08:20:06 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 08:17:39 PM
Quote from: clive on May 03, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
You use the stock RX-8 push type clutch with the RX-8 belhousing or FD bellhousing if you want the pull type .

Also RX-8 boxes have a kinder life with less power going through them.

I worked out that you are forever hearing about S1 and R3 boxes dieing but not 192 boxes.
Just looked at ebay for how much GD gear boxes are up for sale, 500 quid.

5 speed rx8s are 100-150

6 speeds are 250

Think I need to look at running rx8 stuff and sell the fd gear box

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5 speed youâ€™ll pick up for Â£50.00 , easy if not cheaper
6 speed are Â£150.00 normally as they stick them in Mk 2 escort rally cars

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Â£50? From lads that are breaking cars?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 09:02:48 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 08:41:12 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 08:20:06 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 08:17:39 PM
Quote from: clive on May 03, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
You use the stock RX-8 push type clutch with the RX-8 belhousing or FD bellhousing if you want the pull type .

Also RX-8 boxes have a kinder life with less power going through them.

I worked out that you are forever hearing about S1 and R3 boxes dieing but not 192 boxes.
Just looked at ebay for how much GD gear boxes are up for sale, 500 quid.

5 speed rx8s are 100-150

6 speeds are 250

Think I need to look at running rx8 stuff and sell the fd gear box

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5 speed youâ€™ll pick up for Â£50.00 , easy if not cheaper
6 speed are Â£150.00 normally as they stick them in Mk 2 escort rally cars

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Â£50? From lads that are breaking cars?

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Yep
Let me know if you need one
Pete on RX8 OC struggles to sell them
Heâ€™s a good friend , they donâ€™t break so no one buys them

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 09:39:10 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 09:02:48 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 08:41:12 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 08:20:06 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 03, 2020, 08:17:39 PM
Quote from: clive on May 03, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
You use the stock RX-8 push type clutch with the RX-8 belhousing or FD bellhousing if you want the pull type .

Also RX-8 boxes have a kinder life with less power going through them.

I worked out that you are forever hearing about S1 and R3 boxes dieing but not 192 boxes.
Just looked at ebay for how much GD gear boxes are up for sale, 500 quid.

5 speed rx8s are 100-150

6 speeds are 250

Think I need to look at running rx8 stuff and sell the fd gear box

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5 speed youâ€™ll pick up for Â£50.00 , easy if not cheaper
6 speed are Â£150.00 normally as they stick them in Mk 2 escort rally cars

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Â£50? From lads that are breaking cars?

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Yep
Let me know if you need one
Pete on RX8 OC struggles to sell them
Heâ€™s a good friend , they donâ€™t break so no one buys them

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I think I got my subframe from him, comes from stroud?

As for the oil filter, if its tight for space I would get a relocation kit, as you don't want to be struggling to change filter, which we do often on these, even more so on a track car.

I remember changing the oil on my rx8 and it was a pain in the arse and that was a stock engine bay

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on May 04, 2020, 08:02:47 AM

Yeah, 6 speeds are crap. Even tho its based on mazda box, its not, its built by Aisin. 5 speed is basically the same that FD has. However, 6 speed from R3 is built by Mazda and its quite strong, but they are rare.

Clive had a good point on those clutch types. I recommend that you choose RX-8 type. Reasons :
-its easier to modify
-you can buy 8's bellhousings cheap
-with that power, 6speed it is not an option
-with that power, you will destroy boxes, so its better to destroy cheap 5 speed boxes than FD boxes

Also, some one said, Im not sure tho, that 8's boxes PPF mounting area is stronger than FDs box

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on May 04, 2020, 08:19:46 AM

I meant 5mm off the lower inlet and 10mm on the upper flanges.

You will need to pull the engine to make a bulge in the bulkhead to get the oil filter in , never said this was going to be easy ;)

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 04, 2020, 09:07:07 AM

Quote from: clive on May 04, 2020, 08:19:46 AM
I meant 5mm off the lower inlet and 10mm on the upper flanges.

You will need to pull the engine to make a bulge in the bulkhead to get the oil filter in , never said this was going to be easy ;)

Ha ha
Honestly I thought thatâ€™s what you meant
However graham who was down last night for a cuppa was convinced you meant the engine mounts .
Iâ€™ll look into the filter , seems to clash with the slave too
Thanks Clive

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2020, 09:20:51 AM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: clive on May 03, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
You use the stock RX-8 push type clutch with the RX-8 belhousing or FD bellhousing if you want the pull type .

Also RX-8 boxes have a kinder life with less power going through them.

I worked out that you are forever hearing about S1 and R3 boxes dieing but not 192 boxes.
I agree

Only problem in the 8 , the jump between 3 and 4th was huge and it struggled to gain momentum in 4th

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Morning Wayne,

Interesting point on the gap between 3rd n 4th.
I bought a 5 speeder for the rotus, and obviously if youâ€™re running a huge turbo you probably wonâ€™t notice the gap so much with super torque delivery.

Iâ€™m hoping the lightness of the rotus will overcome that gap a bit. I was just wondering what diff you were running while you had the 5 speeder in? If you had an r3 diff or the earlier rx8 diff.

Again I bought an r3 one to close the gaps up a bit. But Iâ€™ve not ran anything yet do I donâ€™t have anything to compare it to

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 04, 2020, 09:34:31 AM

Quote from: Jamie R on May 04, 2020, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 03, 2020, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: clive on May 03, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
You use the stock RX-8 push type clutch with the RX-8 belhousing or FD bellhousing if you want the pull type .

Also RX-8 boxes have a kinder life with less power going through them.

I worked out that you are forever hearing about S1 and R3 boxes dieing but not 192 boxes.
I agree

Only problem in the 8 , the jump between 3 and 4th was huge and it struggled to gain momentum in 4th

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Morning Wayne,

Interesting point on the gap between 3rd n 4th.
I bought a 5 speeder for the rotus, and obviously if youâ€™re running a huge turbo you probably wonâ€™t notice the gap so much with super torque delivery.

Iâ€™m hoping the lightness of the rotus will overcome that gap a bit. I was just wondering what diff you were running while you had the 5 speeder in? If you had an r3 diff or the earlier rx8 diff.

Again I bought an r3 one to close the gaps up a bit. But Iâ€™ve not ran anything yet do I donâ€™t have anything to compare it to

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Jamie
Youâ€™ve made my day
This is something I do know a bit about

Standard 4.4 diff with 5 speed box will show around 112 mph on the dash speedo in 3 rd gear
I tried the R3 diff with the 5 speed and itâ€™s down to around 95 mph
Iâ€™d stick with the 4.4
I done a comparison in Mallory park where Matt had R3 diff and 17 inch wheels which then roughly equates to a 5.1 .
From the tight hairpin Iâ€™d be first gear with the 4.4 diff
He was second gear . From there we would change gear near enough in same place but I was always one gear lower
So bottom of straight he was 5th gear and I was 4th
Gerardâ€™s bend he was 4th I was 3rd
Iâ€™d that makes any sense ????
What size wheels will you be running ?
And what weight will routs be ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2020, 09:38:33 AM

Iâ€™m running 17â€ steels I canâ€™t remember the tyre size off top of my head but wasnâ€™t a million miles away from the stock rx8 circumference. Maybe just a taller sidewall.

Iâ€™m aiming for around 850kg. Slightly lighter than a stock lotus elan.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 04, 2020, 09:41:10 AM

Quote from: Jamie R on May 04, 2020, 09:38:33 AM
Iâ€™m running 17â€ steels I canâ€™t remember the tyre size off top of my head but wasnâ€™t a million miles away from the stock rx8 circumference. Maybe just a taller sidewall.

Iâ€™m aiming for around 850kg. Slightly lighter than a stock lotus elan.

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I donâ€™t think youâ€™ll notice the drop from 3rd to 4th with that weight .
Could save some money and use standard diff and 6 speed box I suppose

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2020, 09:43:17 AM

Iâ€™ve got both options

The 8 Iâ€™m driving round in will be a parts doner eventually

Got 2x 6 speeders and 1 x 5 speeder

Got 2 x 4.4 diffs and 1 x R3

The world is my oyster lol

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 04, 2020, 09:57:54 AM

Quote from: Jamie R on May 04, 2020, 09:43:17 AM
Iâ€™ve got both options

The 8 Iâ€™m driving round in will be a parts doner eventually

Got 2x 6 speeders and 1 x 5 speeder

Got 2 x 4.4 diffs and 1 x R3

The world is my oyster lol

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For road use Iâ€™d stick with 4.4 and 6 speed box

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on May 04, 2020, 10:10:43 AM

Noted

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 04, 2020, 07:26:31 PM

I always know the manifold needed to be adapted slighty
Maybe quite a lot or Iâ€™ll never get around a corner (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200504/54e4856c298add8a44d66b8fa9ec380a.jpg)

So I do I bite the bullet and get turblown or similar cast one or is a made up one just as effective
I can get this one adapter and welded very well

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 04, 2020, 09:29:24 PM

You've noticed the steering rack is in the way of the turbo manifold? I also have this crap problem. Mine is hitting on the universal joint.

My solution is going to be to put a "dimple" into the rear housing pipe where the UJ hits. My pipe diameter is quite large so should be perfectly fine, what diameter is your piping as you don't want to choke it too much if the piping is small.

Solution 2, get a left hand drive chassis

The turblown ones are very expensive

I don't know if they will even work on rhd still

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2020, 11:25:53 AM

I have this issue which I'm guessing is same as yours? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200505/f192e650902b554897c160222b46ea5d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 05, 2020, 11:45:23 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2020, 11:25:53 AM
I have this issue which I'm guessing is same as yours? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200505/f192e650902b554897c160222b46ea5d.jpg)

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Mine much tighter than that , Iâ€™ll get a better photo later
If itâ€™s the same UJ as the RX8 I shaves the corners off on my Greddy kit
Saved a good 10 mm and I was not that bothered it it did touch it slightly
That was on the inter cooler pipe tho

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 05, 2020, 08:58:27 PM

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200505/56493f7e163caa4c31327a5945e787d3.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200505/045ba4a4983b7cf807231138161d6b5f.jpg)
Itâ€™s a bit tight
One bolts snapped so itâ€™s off now re drill - tap and loosen up
It was a bit stiff too

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2020, 10:32:38 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 05, 2020, 08:58:27 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200505/56493f7e163caa4c31327a5945e787d3.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200505/045ba4a4983b7cf807231138161d6b5f.jpg)
Itâ€™s a bit tight
One bolts snapped so itâ€™s off now re drill - tap and loosen up
It was a bit stiff too

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I rekon you can modify that a little bit? Cut the straight piece out and use some 45s to negotiate around the UJ?

What diameter is that UJ, it looks slimmer than mine as mine was off the mx5 rack

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 06, 2020, 10:25:32 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 05, 2020, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 05, 2020, 08:58:27 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200505/56493f7e163caa4c31327a5945e787d3.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200505/045ba4a4983b7cf807231138161d6b5f.jpg)
Itâ€™s a bit tight
One bolts snapped so itâ€™s off now re drill - tap and loosen up
It was a bit stiff too

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I rekon you can modify that a little bit? Cut the straight piece out and use some 45s to negotiate around the UJ?

What diameter is that UJ, it looks slimmer than mine as mine was off the mx5 rack

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Grant youâ€™d be surprised how far out it is
We will modify to suit as itâ€™s only the rest pipe .
Iâ€™ll measure the bore later , itâ€™s same size up to the turbo flange and reduces at that point
UJ is 120 mm long 40 mm wide

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 07, 2020, 09:20:01 PM

Next bit if Advice please
Current pipe from turbo Is quite big (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200507/c5f5f9672c4222f2ed904481a8a3a21e.jpg)

At what point do I reduce to 75mm
Fabricator is unsure as he donâ€™t know a lot about Rotaryâ€™s
Bit like me I suppose

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 07, 2020, 09:42:33 PM

Why are you wanting to reduce it down?

If you are doing then do it as for back as possible, people generally step up the exhaust size to help the exhaust "flow" (the term flow is what a lot of people use and I just don't get it

)

If you reduce the pipe down then you are going to increase back pressure which is not good for rotaries.... However if your not measuring these then you won't know will you so doesn't matter

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on May 08, 2020, 04:44:50 AM

If that is going in to turbo from air filter, do not reduce it. Turbo intake size needs big bore to lett air flow freely.

If reduction is absolutely necessary, you can reduce size for very small lengt but still its not a good idea.

If reduction is for after turbo, so called pressure side of piping, it doesent matter so much. However, really big reduction can cause "friction"

Cant explain it properly...

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on May 08, 2020, 04:51:56 AM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 07, 2020, 09:20:01 PM
Next bit if Advice please
Current pipe from turbo Is quite big (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200507/c5f5f9672c4222f2ed904481a8a3a21e.jpg)

At what point do I reduce to 75mm
Fabricator is unsure as he donâ€™t know a lot about Rotaryâ€™s
Bit like me I suppose

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Umm, wait. Is that from turbine/exhaust side? If it is, dont reduce it atall. Just noticed Grants answer and he is right, these things hate back pressure

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 08, 2020, 09:24:02 AM

Thanks both
I probably should have asked â€œ should we reduce it â€œ not where
Thatâ€™s good news as the downpipe is a perfect fit in the engine bay so no modification needed
Thanks again
Iâ€™ve ordered a new LIM so waiting on that now which will be a while . I am happy as Iâ€™m now in a position where I know what I have and have a shopping list of parts required .

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 09:30:08 AM

Which have you ordered? Have you got the fuel rail for it also?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 08, 2020, 09:33:55 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 09:30:08 AM
Which have you ordered? Have you got the fuel rail for it also?

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Yep I ordered both from xcessive
Paid for it start of week but havenâ€™t had any shipping details as yet
Thanks for the link

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 10:27:07 AM

Have you got injectors?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 08, 2020, 10:43:30 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 10:27:07 AM
Have you got injectors?

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Nope
None yet

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 12:51:32 PM

I was going to order some of the Injector dynamics 2200 cc ones but they cost a fortune, I'm going to be getting the bosch 2200 injectors, 8 of them because im going to run methanol, and they're only 100 Australian dollars each

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 08, 2020, 01:12:34 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 12:51:32 PM
I was going to order some of the Injector dynamics 2200 cc ones but they cost a fortune, I'm going to be getting the bosch 2200 injectors, 8 of them because im going to run methanol, and they're only 100 Australian dollars each

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Send me a link or order mine and share postage then , I do worry when buying Injectors . My cousin bought some from e bay and they were copies . Ruined his forged pistons in his MX5
Stupid question , why 8 if your running water meth ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 01:22:32 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 08, 2020, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 12:51:32 PM
I was going to order some of the Injector dynamics 2200 cc ones but they cost a fortune, I'm going to be getting the bosch 2200 injectors, 8 of them because im going to run methanol, and they're only 100 Australian dollars each

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Send me a link or order mine and share postage then , I do worry when buying Injectors . My cousin bought some from e bay and they were copies . Ruined his forged pistons in his MX5
Stupid question , why 8 if your running water meth ?

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No I'm going to run methanol for fuel. It just makes things easier in the long run, oxygenated racing fuel is really expensive. Methanol is a lot cheaper even though you have to use more to make the same hp, But you can make more hp with methanol because it has oxygen in it etc

Also mean I can sack off using an intercooler too.

I'm not ordering them just yet, as I'm waiting until I'm back at work as I'm getting a lot of stuff at once from Australia.

Need to make sure your ecu can control the injectors, which I think it can, because it's a new one. Something in the back of my head tells me you had to do something when using a 1680cc Injector on the apex ecus used in rx7s, something to do with low/high impedance

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 01:51:10 PM

http://microtechefi.com/product-category/engine-management/fuel-system-components/

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 08, 2020, 02:23:34 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 01:51:10 PM
http://microtechefi.com/product-category/engine-management/fuel-system-components/

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Thanks grant

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 02:33:01 PM

I think Clive mentioned earlier that most people use 2 x 850 in the primaries and 2 x 1680s in the secondaries which is 5060cc worth of Injector

At idle you use just the 850 which just inject into the primary runner which to me, I'd rather be injecting fuel across all 4 ports

Plus you are using this car for track aren't you so having lower engine speed idle isn't too big of a deal to help save mpgs lol

I would want to run 4 x 1000cc or In your case you will be able to run 6 x 1000cc as the excessive LIM runs 4 x Injectors, plus you can run another 2 in the centre iron

All depends on hp goals, what your ecu can do and what the person tuning it recommends

I'm going for the big ones because of methanol.

I'm yet to figure out what fuel pump to use.

Do you know what fuel pump you are using?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 08, 2020, 02:35:03 PM

There's a lot more people more knowledgeable and experienced than me, I'm just trying to pull the stuff I can remember out to guide you lol. Instead of wasting money on things, which I have done in the past

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 08, 2020, 03:16:57 PM

Thanks again grant
Any info I donâ€™t know is always helping
I was told â€˜minimum 320 or 360 lph
I think I currently have a Walbro 240
Maybe

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on May 08, 2020, 06:03:21 PM

Yeah, Grant is right. Running with methanol needs massive injectors. Basically you have to burn more methanol to get same result as gasoline. Like lots more! Same thing with fuel pump and coils, needs to be BIG!

With smaller injectors, things like idle is easier to control. With only 4 injectors, primarys and ofcourse secondary has to be massive.

Friend of mine is building semi PP with ethanol setup. Injectors will be 1300/2200 +one mega, I even dont know how big!

Problem here is to build large enough fuel system to support those...

However, methanol "runs cool" and reduses knocking. If you get it right, you will have awesome power...

Back to intake and exhaust. I usually say that you have to think rotary as an 2 stroke. They do hate if some thing is restricted. Exhaust or intake. So, best option usually is to" over engineer them". For example, all mods I have done, is done to being cabable to much bigger power. Like my exhaust, its 3,5" even dont it doesent need to be. Same thing with intake, it can do and flow much better than my power goal is...

Reason for all of this: rotarys are bastards and dont like to be done loosely

its much better do "over engineer" your components, than broke the whole thing in dyno just because your injectors are too small or exhaust wont flow enough...

Hope this helps, Im bored and drunk

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 08, 2020, 06:23:10 PM

Quote from: re japi on May 08, 2020, 06:03:21 PM
Yeah, Grant is right. Running with methanol needs massive injectors. Basically you have to burn more methanol to get same result as gasoline. Like lots more! Same thing with fuel pump and coils, needs to be BIG!

With smaller injectors, things like idle is easier to control. With only 4 injectors, primarys and ofcourse secondary has to be massive.

Friend of mine is building semi PP with ethanol setup. Injectors will be 1300/2200 +one mega, I even dont know how big! Problem here is to build large enough fuel system to support those...

However, methanol "runs cool" and reduses knocking. If you get it right, you will have awesome power...

Back to intake and exhaust. I usually say that you have to think rotary as an 2 stroke. They do hate if some thing is restricted. Exhaust or intake. So, best option usually is to" over engineer them". For example, all mods I have done, is done to being cabable to much bigger power. Like my exhaust, its 3,5" even dont it doesent need to be. Same thing with intake, it can do and flow much better than my power goal is...

Reason for all of this: rotarys are bastards and dont like to be done loosely its much better do "over engineer" your components, than broke the whole thing in dyno just because your injectors are too small or exhaust wont flow enough...

Hope this helps, Im bored and drunk

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Yep
The reason I asked about methanol was that I have water meth cooling on my RX8
But not methanol fuelling

- I now understand

As for the exhaust , Iâ€™m all good
Hereâ€™s my downpipe (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200508/e1fcd14eafc6db1b7b5f4fbdcc8fa828.jpg)
And the rest of 2 systems I had with everything I bought
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Iâ€™m sure with a few bends and pipe we can make something adequate .
Good news LIM manifold and fuel rail have left the supplier today
Should see them sometime over the next month or so

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on May 08, 2020, 06:38:06 PM

Yeah, that should be big enough

Methanol thing is tough. If you get it wrong...

But if you get it right, you should be doing some good power

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 10, 2020, 12:22:20 PM

Delivery of the goods from across the pond is this coming this Thursday . Shipping is quicker now than it was before lockdown

. The TB adaptor from Russia is ordered but they are on strict look down I believe so could be a while .
Anyhow , in the meantime I will put the turbo and manifold back on - which means removing the steering column again ...........
And start figuring out the inter cooler size and inlet / outlet locations for the V mount .
Currently looking at a core size of 450x75x300 . Thereâ€™s 650 mm between the chassis front rails
Not sure if thatâ€™s big enough
Is there a way of working out size required by capacity of the intercooler ? Could possibly go 350 long if required

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 12:24:02 PM

Have you thought of removing part of the front "clip" or ever it is called to give you more room? The bit where the bonnet latches.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 12:27:03 PM

Remove this piece, or part/most of it. Don't know how much different the 8 is compared to mx5

IT will give you much more room for activities(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200510/d5d66d5a454384073457e2cfc442e7bf.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 10, 2020, 12:32:26 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 12:27:03 PM
Remove this piece, or part/most of it. Don't know how much different the 8 is compared to mx5

IT will give you much more room for activities(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200510/d5d66d5a454384073457e2cfc442e7bf.jpg)

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Oh that looks nice
Main problem is the fuse box on right hand side
Iâ€™ve moved the ecu box from the left which does open it up quite a bit more . Iâ€™ve got plenty of room for length , itâ€™s the width which is restricted slightly for an Outlet elbow where fuse box is

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 12:37:13 PM

Can you put the outlets in opposite corners?

You could just run a front mount? Take out the crash bar thing behind the front pump and put the intercooler there?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 10, 2020, 12:44:16 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 12:37:13 PM
Can you put the outlets in opposite corners?

You could just run a front mount? Take out the crash bar thing behind the front pump and put the intercooler there?

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All the stock ones Iâ€™ve looked at in forge have the inlet / outlets equal whether itâ€™s side /top / bottom etc
Thatâ€™s why Iâ€™ll put it back together, I can see how many bends would be required . Ideally I think top entry on turbo side them middle exit on the other side .
Iâ€™m sure if I get a base lined up it could be easily made up somewhere .
Intercooler could go in front but from what Iâ€™ve read the V mounts is much better for cooling so Iâ€™ll see how far I get

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 02:29:12 PM

I think people mainly use V mounts on road cars due to space available, I honestly. Think a front mount will cool better it just mean longer piping in some cases etc

V mounts iv seen look like they stop clean airflow into the turbo and end up sucking hot air in off the coolers

V mounts are good though

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 02:37:12 PM

I like to look at it like this,

Front mount air has to go through intercooler no matter what due to the direction of the fins

V mount the air can go through both intercooler and radiator at same time, radiator probably run cooler as not getting intercooler air.

How ever the fins on the v mount intercooler aren't angled to help push air up, Imagine them being at 45 degrees to the floor

However they all work its just what works best for you in the space you have got lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200510/856b8f2484195823bb5c18be6fa5ad55.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 02:39:03 PM

Iv always thought that a v mount would work even better if the fins were at angles like this(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200510/bf036cae4c9c7b5691204ecb361899d3.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 02:40:23 PM

There's always the thought in my head too as to which way do you direct the hot air out of the car, up out the bonnet or under the car?

I'm woffling on now

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 10, 2020, 02:49:55 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 02:40:23 PM
There's always the thought in my head too as to which way do you direct the hot air out of the car, up out the bonnet or under the car?

I'm woffling on now

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Not really I can see your point , find would need to sit and 45degree angle to flow direct through
A bit like brake disc groove orientation
It dont matter which way they go on unless the separating fins between them are angled or curved

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 02:57:07 PM

You can always mount them a different way too. I like the leaning back or forward version, helps you fit bigger cores, leave room to guide fresh air into the turbo and you can get rid of the air nice and easy too.

I don't know which is better, hot air over car or under the car. I do know hot air will have an effect on aero but that's beyond my current knowledge(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200510/3b7f9da95813109e7fd148479353abe3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200510/6d3b23a3c381381729e52a8288093dab.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 03:22:40 PM

Just been doing some forum reading and most people with rx7s say vmount, I still think that's due to space available for a decent sized core and piping length but I came across this gem of a post

IT doesn't matter what style you use, just get cold air into the turbo and it will be more efficient. Colder air in equals colder air out. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200510/32efaac846f0ac0f8ac73f6676825490.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 03:23:36 PM

This looks good, he put a lot of ducting in also(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200510/eca5501de18cb7497623c8837dd646e2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200510/7c13d4751f1dce4c14aabcdb9dba411d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 10, 2020, 04:59:50 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 10, 2020, 03:23:36 PM
This looks good, he put a lot of ducting in also(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200510/eca5501de18cb7497623c8837dd646e2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200510/7c13d4751f1dce4c14aabcdb9dba411d.jpg)

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Food for thought that is
Iâ€™ll take a look , thanks grant

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 13, 2020, 10:28:43 AM

Just seen this pop up on youtube, a DBW throttle upgrade for the rx7

might be worth a watch for you? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200513/f4adcbe54919448ecdbf5518535a2167.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 13, 2020, 11:00:56 AM

Thanks grant
Itâ€™s says it goes live in 11 hours so Iâ€™ll watch it tomorrow
Bloody gutted
I paid the import duty on my stuff on Saturday morning
Iâ€™ve since missed two attempted deliveries
One Monday morning
Second yesterday afternoon
Itâ€™s now being held , trying to get through to dhl express is a pain ,
Can only e mail them and should get a response within 24 hours

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 15, 2020, 06:22:43 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 13, 2020, 10:28:43 AM
Just seen this pop up on youtube, a DBW throttle upgrade for the rx7 might be worth a watch for you? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200513/f4adcbe54919448ecdbf5518535a2167.jpg)

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Grant it was interesting , clever buggers fair play .

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 15, 2020, 06:36:08 PM

Fair play to them yanks
Had an e mail last Friday Eve to say it was finished and going out that day
Text Saturday morning to pay import taxes
Was at my door at 11.15 Monday morning
Shame we were both in work .
Hell of a service from DHL - bravo
Had a bardy back last few days so slow progress
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Edges could do with a bit of very slight cleaning but itâ€™s here
And , they come with instructions too

Anyways , itâ€™s on , 38 mm offset forward so shouldnâ€™t need much battering when installed in the next car (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200515/820efe70080b0cb08db75e2b6c952ded.jpg)
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Iâ€™m pretty sure we can cut that corner off and fabricate it as itâ€™s a strong chunky bit of stuff that the hoist hook is bolted to .
Now waiting on throttle body adaptor which left Russia on 9th May and the oil filter relocation which should be here early next week
Next
Find an intercooler for V mount and get the manifold altered
Wayneâ€™s happy

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 15, 2020, 08:39:22 PM

Glad it fits now

yeh just lop that bit off, I have its not needed for anything

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on May 16, 2020, 12:28:54 AM

Whats the engine mount solution?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 08:55:47 AM

Quote from: boosted on May 16, 2020, 12:28:54 AM
Whats the engine mount solution?

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https://nicon-rotary.com/en/product/podramnik-13b-rew-rx-8/

I think he has something similar to this

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 09:53:57 AM

Yep thatâ€™s the one

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 10:31:04 AM

I bet you could use that bracket and an rx8 subframe to throw a rew into an mx5

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 11:33:00 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 10:31:04 AM
I bet you could use that bracket and an rx8 subframe to throw a rew into an mx5

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Grant Iâ€™ve no doubt you could
Iâ€™m quite envious of my friends with MX5â€™s they cost half the price to build and run on fuel out on circuit .
Thing is Iâ€™m tall , and look like a giraffe in a shoe box when Iâ€™m sat in there with a helmet on

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 12:21:04 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 11:33:00 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 10:31:04 AM
I bet you could use that bracket and an rx8 subframe to throw a rew into an mx5

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Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 10:31:04 AM
I bet you could use that bracket and an rx8 subframe to throw a rew into an mx5

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Grant Iâ€™ve no doubt you could
Iâ€™m quite envious of my friends with MX5â€™s they cost half the price to build and run on fuel out on circuit .
Thing is Iâ€™m tall , and look like a giraffe in a shoe box when Iâ€™m sat in there with a helmet on

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The seats sit high in the mx5, probably gain a little headroom changing to a racing seat but wouldn't give much more than a couple inches.

The mx5 has got. To be a couple. Hundred kgs lighter than the 8 easy

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 12:25:40 PM

Mx5 1110kg
Rx8 1384kg

Piston to rotary swap plus all the crap iv taken out of the car I bet its currently under 1000kg

I think Clive rx8 is 1200kg? So it's still heavy ish but at least you don't have to worry about your head poking out of the roof above the roll cage

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 12:31:14 PM

Just checked the wheel base difference too
Rx8 106.4inches
Mx5 91.7 inches

14.8 inches adds up a lot of metal doesn't it

Are you removing all the interior?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 12:59:41 PM

Yeah other cars fully stripped / caged etc .
Itâ€™ll be interesting if you put a spirit level vertically from one of the sub frame bolts and measure back to the bulkhead and see whatâ€™s the difference between the two

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 01:28:30 PM

I will have a measure

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 03:31:05 PM

570mm from the front of the subframe to the bulkhead recess

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 04:12:52 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 03:31:05 PM
570mm from the front of the subframe to the bulkhead recess

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Iâ€™ll have a look shortly

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on May 16, 2020, 06:53:32 PM

Howâ€™s your rack looking Wayne?

And I donâ€™t mean ya man boobs

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 07:35:49 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 03:31:05 PM
570mm from the front of the subframe to the bulkhead recess

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Iâ€™ll have a look shortly

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Looks like you have more room 510 here (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200516/174a96d16141884072add1c545020a8b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 07:36:33 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on May 16, 2020, 06:53:32 PM
Howâ€™s your rack looking Wayne?

And I donâ€™t mean ya man boobs

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Ha ha being welded this evening buddy

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 09:16:18 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on May 16, 2020, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 16, 2020, 03:31:05 PM
570mm from the front of the subframe to the bulkhead recess

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Iâ€™ll have a look shortly

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Looks like you have more room 510 here (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200516/174a96d16141884072add1c545020a8b.jpg)

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That is interesting, the recess in the mx5 is very deep but it's not very wide.

Where I have the engine now it can't go back much further, they definately used a different press for the rx8 and mx5 firewall though

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2020, 04:38:24 PM

Heres the tyres Wayne...having a garage tidy so dug em out...
Good for a track day i reckon.
Clives old 1s...
With my weedy 320bhp i struggled to get heat in them so you should be fine.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/b462656bec0688f021daa8c7a1be1324.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/c19066e164c77900c695e62ced85d368.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/8e834dd790fb5b46e7b9b5fb987cb675.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/6cab06b21c35a9ac011d25fce795926e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/563612f1b19db30379fa7754a061ab4b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/b3b9d9f2e297593597f13fab900b7d39.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 17, 2020, 04:53:35 PM

Quote from: boosted on May 17, 2020, 04:38:24 PM
Heres the tyres Wayne...having a garage tidy so dug em out...
Good for a track day i reckon.
Clives old 1s...
With my weedy 320bhp i struggled to get heat in them so you should be fine.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/b462656bec0688f021daa8c7a1be1324.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/c19066e164c77900c695e62ced85d368.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/8e834dd790fb5b46e7b9b5fb987cb675.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/6cab06b21c35a9ac011d25fce795926e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/563612f1b19db30379fa7754a061ab4b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200517/b3b9d9f2e297593597f13fab900b7d39.jpg)

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Weedy lol
Thatâ€™s plenty

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2020, 05:02:23 PM

When we get to a show or trackday ill bring em along for you.
I wouldnt use them on a renny powered 8 but a turbod rew powered 8 ...400plus should be able to get them hot enough.
Was fun with them on mine ....loose like every first lap.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 17, 2020, 05:20:52 PM

Quote from: boosted on May 17, 2020, 05:02:23 PM
When we get to a show or trackday ill bring em along for you.
I wouldnt use them on a renny powered 8 but a turbod rew powered 8 ...400plus should be able to get them hot enough.
Was fun with them on mine ....loose like every first lap.

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Sounds like a plan

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 10:16:30 AM

After a bit of research , not by me . It seems the alternator relocate bracket is made for FC not FD engine .
It sits back 28mm too far back .
So plan is to try and weld another wheel on front of the original , that will line up fine .
Hope it works , or maybe get a longer wheel from somewhere .

Does anyone have a broken alternator they have laying around that I could have / buy for the wheel ?
Please
In meantime will
Check if one of the RX8 is the same

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 13, 2020, 11:13:51 AM

Which alternator bracket did you get?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 11:19:45 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 13, 2020, 11:13:51 AM
Which alternator bracket did you get?

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It was on the engine when I bought it , so would prefer to utilise it if I could .

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 13, 2020, 11:26:45 AM

You could change the front timing cover to an FC and it would fit perfect it think.

That bracket is prety much the same as mine just a different company

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 13, 2020, 12:00:39 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on June 13, 2020, 11:26:45 AM
You could change the front timing cover to an FC and it would fit perfect it think.

That bracket is prety much the same as mine just a different company

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Hmmmm
Got me thinking now
If I changed to rx8 one and that worked , Iâ€™d have right plug for eccentric shaft sensor for the loom . I think itâ€™s just a bit of machining go to side cover
Cold shout Grant

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on June 13, 2020, 06:36:34 PM

Wayne donâ€™t fit the side mount, read my thread and you will see it was one of the biggest mistakes I made.

I didn't realise the ECU regulates the Alternator not from inside the alternator, if I had to do it all again, I would have engineered the stock alternator on the car.

Initially I wired up the stock RX-8 alternator wiring before making its own stand alone circuit, lucky I did just grenade the ECU.

The original thinking was from a Race car point of view, use a lightweight alternator and keep the weight low in the chassis. The stock alternator wont fit down the side.

Also the small alternator had to be remanufactured to give more output as it could not keep up with the draw of two fuel pumps, damn thing ended up costing a fortune.

Grant you may well have the same issues with your MX-5 car if the ECU regulates the alternator the same way.
Hope this helps

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 13, 2020, 07:39:50 PM

Quote from: clive on June 13, 2020, 06:36:34 PM
Wayne donâ€™t fit the side mount, read my thread and you will see it was one of the biggest mistakes I made.

I didn't realise the ECU regulates the Alternator not from inside the alternator, if I had to do it all again, I would have engineered the stock alternator on the car.

Initially I wired up the stock RX-8 alternator wiring before making its own stand alone circuit, lucky I did just grenade the ECU.

The original thinking was from a Race car point of view, use a lightweight alternator and keep the weight low in the chassis. The stock alternator wont fit down the side.

Also the small alternator had to be remanufactured to give more output as it could not keep up with the draw of two fuel pumps, damn thing ended up costing a fortune.

Grant you may well have the same issues with your MX-5 car if the ECU regulates the alternator the same way.
Hope this helps

Clive I don't think I'm going to be running an alternator anyway as I have to mount the mechanical fuel pump in the side position where the side mount alternator kit would place it.

Although I have seen some trick things of having the alternator mounted at the rear of the car running a belt off the drive shaft

I think nascars do it

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on June 14, 2020, 09:49:32 AM

The alternator off the prop is an old one from way back, lots of club car specials etc used and I considered that at one stage when I was having issues,

But it would be a huge task as a metal prop would have been needed to mount a belt drive, plus a big hole in the floor in front of the fuel tank on the passenger side as there's no room under the floor, so effectively the alternator would have been inside the car with a box over it.

OK on a race car as all of this is not a problem, but on a road car you could end up in traffic stationary and no charge coming out of the alternator.

p.s. it cant really run off the drive shaft because of the angle changes unless the alternator goes up and down in the same arc

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on June 14, 2020, 01:20:24 PM

If it was mounted to the diff, the alternator would move with the movement of the diff?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on June 14, 2020, 02:01:13 PM

Yes, front diff flange (which is the normal way) or diff output flange, space is your enemy

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: lennycarloff on June 14, 2020, 06:52:55 PM

I have seen you can get water pump delete with alternator mount from built2apex.com I have no Idea if there any good but it's an option.

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 14, 2020, 06:56:03 PM

Quote from: lennycarloff on June 14, 2020, 06:52:55 PM
I have seen you can get water pump delete with alternator mount from built2apex.com I have no Idea if there any good but it's an option.

Thanks Lenny
Iâ€™ll look into it

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 14, 2020, 06:56:41 PM

Quote from: clive on June 13, 2020, 06:36:34 PM
Wayne donâ€™t fit the side mount, read my thread and you will see it was one of the biggest mistakes I made.

I didn't realise the ECU regulates the Alternator not from inside the alternator, if I had to do it all again, I would have engineered the stock alternator on the car.

Initially I wired up the stock RX-8 alternator wiring before making its own stand alone circuit, lucky I did just grenade the ECU.

The original thinking was from a Race car point of view, use a lightweight alternator and keep the weight low in the chassis. The stock alternator wont fit down the side.

Also the small alternator had to be remanufactured to give more output as it could not keep up with the draw of two fuel pumps, damn thing ended up costing a fortune.

Grant you may well have the same issues with your MX-5 car if the ECU regulates the alternator the same way.
Hope this helps

Thanks Clive
Iâ€™ll look into it
Cheers

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2020, 06:49:32 PM

Quote from: clive on June 14, 2020, 02:01:13 PM
Yes, front diff flange (which is the normal way) or diff output flange, space is your enemy

Clive
A question for you , or any one else I guess regarding my track car .
Currently have japspeed ( crapspeed ) adjustable arms on the rear . One broke a while back so am tempted to go back to the standard ones with polybushes
Is the following good that itâ€™s floating or bad because it moving ?
Thatâ€™s just putting a spanner on the lower arm and moving gently back and forth when in the air

https://youtu.be/wHfdldd_Chw

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:01:16 PM

Vids private ( hopefully not your privates

) Wayne

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2020, 07:04:34 PM

Quote from: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:01:16 PM
Vids private ( hopefully not your privates) Wayne

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Ohhhhh I though I could still share it on here
Iâ€™ll change it now
Cheers Jon

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:06:11 PM

Youtubes changed..i had fun

with track day vids!
Kid friendly means no comment allowed...i learnt that.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on June 15, 2020, 07:06:30 PM

Evening Wayne,

The video is unavaliable, but its maybe worth knowing that I wouldnt put my trust in any Japspeed componant !

I use all Mazda arms with energy supension bushes, to me with how adjustable the stock mazda suspension is I cant see any reason to do any more than I have on the race car .

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:15:53 PM

Crapspeed!

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2020, 07:18:05 PM

Quote from: clive on June 15, 2020, 07:06:30 PM
Evening Wayne,

The video is unavaliable, but its maybe worth knowing that I wouldnt put my trust in any Japspeed componant !

I use all Mazda arms with energy supension bushes, to me with how adjustable the stock mazda suspension is I cant see any reason to do any more than I have on the race car .

https://youtu.be/wHfdldd_Chw

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on June 15, 2020, 07:29:47 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2020, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: clive on June 15, 2020, 07:06:30 PM
Evening Wayne,

The video is unavaliable, but its maybe worth knowing that I wouldnt put my trust in any Japspeed componant !

I use all Mazda arms with energy supension bushes, to me with how adjustable the stock mazda suspension is I cant see any reason to do any more than I have on the race car .
https://youtu.be/wHfdldd_Chw

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That looks very disconcerting.

I dunno what the answer is but that ainâ€™t normal

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:39:50 PM

Inner bush has excessive play imho

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2020, 08:48:47 PM

Quote from: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:39:50 PM
Inner bush has excessive play imho

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Just seems a lot of movement
Out they be
Should sell for bling
Iâ€™ll buy all new bits and make new
All old arms are already polybushed except 2
Shopping again lol

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on June 15, 2020, 09:21:51 PM

Best way to answer this is to say PLEASE DO NOT DRIVE THIS DANGERIOUS CAR till you get those blue things masquerading as suspension arms off ::) ::).

I would say that was the viberation at your track day!

Wayne please just get a set of standard Mazda arms on the back of the car for safetys sake.

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2020, 09:32:47 PM

Quote from: clive on June 15, 2020, 09:21:51 PM
Best way to answer this is to say PLEASE DO NOT DRIVE THIS DANGERIOUS CAR till you get those blue things masquerading as suspension arms off ::) ::).

I would say that was the viberation at your track day!

Wayne please just get a set of standard Mazda arms on the back of the car for safetys sake.

Clive thanks for your valued input
They are Half changed
Theyâ€™ll all be done by Thursday
Iâ€™ll keep you updated
I do have a set of your energy suspension
Bushes in the arms that I bought from you
Again
Thanks

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2020, 09:33:38 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on June 15, 2020, 07:29:47 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2020, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: clive on June 15, 2020, 07:06:30 PM
Evening Wayne,

The video is unavaliable, but its maybe worth knowing that I wouldnt put my trust in any Japspeed componant !

I use all Mazda arms with energy supension bushes, to me with how adjustable the stock mazda suspension is I cant see any reason to do any more than I have on the race car .
https://youtu.be/wHfdldd_Chw

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That looks very disconcerting.

I dunno what the answer is but that ainâ€™t normal

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Thought the same
No idea , but seems excessive

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on June 15, 2020, 09:34:28 PM

Quote from: boosted on June 15, 2020, 07:39:50 PM
Inner bush has excessive play imho

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Ohhhh canâ€™t wait
Change them as
And faster again

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 05, 2020, 11:36:02 AM

After changing all rear end arms and bushes
Found the culprit
Front N/S bearing was a bit worn

https://youtu.be/mi-5ubjNarA

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 05, 2020, 11:39:37 AM

Private ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 05, 2020, 11:40:09 AM

Quote from: boosted on July 05, 2020, 11:39:37 AM
Private ?

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again
Just figuring it out

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 05, 2020, 11:51:10 AM

Quote from: boosted on July 05, 2020, 11:39:37 AM
Private ?

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Have others uploading so will have to wait .....

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 05, 2020, 02:57:24 PM

Quote from: boosted on July 05, 2020, 11:39:37 AM
Private ?

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Done now

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 05, 2020, 03:56:11 PM

How much are new being sealed unit?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 05, 2020, 04:05:57 PM

Quote from: boosted on July 05, 2020, 03:56:11 PM
How much are new being sealed unit?

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Iâ€™m not sure
I changed the hub , was late Wednesday night so much to do before we headed up to Bedford Friday afternoon .
I tried to get the unit old apart , had to batter it to separate . So thought I may have damaged the replacement doing it
Will put a new one on , that side clearly gets the hammering

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 09:32:52 AM

Quote from: boosted on July 05, 2020, 03:56:11 PM
How much are new being sealed unit?

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Â£150.00

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:34:43 AM

Thats not to bad at all...is that genuine? You dont want a cheapo solution the mazda oem 1s have held up well to track abuse and slick use.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 09:38:46 AM

Project cars back in
Only a bit of work but decided to use the RX8 oil filter housing , small bit of machining required (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/db23b577f48e1d8dfe7058364326b986.jpg)
And we can use the original metal gasket too
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/4b71d3ad7df94dc0c2836c2dc72de74f.jpg)
Job done
Can easily reach the oil filter from under the UIM as Iâ€™ll be using electric water pump . And no fabrication to the bulkhead

Alternator is on , just need to cut 30 -40 mm out of the arm to tidy it up .
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/f98f53d2e7deba585487ec54c024a0eb.jpg)
All going well should get the Throttle body adaptor on UIM this evening .
Then need to bore everyone about turbo choices again

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 09:40:16 AM

Quote from: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:34:43 AM
Thats not to bad at all...is that genuine? You dont want a cheapo solution the mazda oem 1s have held up well to track abuse and slick use.

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Yep
Thatâ€™s price Dave on RX8OC checked up in Mazda .
Will definitely be replacing with new .
Has lasted 6 years of Trackdays so not bad .

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:41:22 AM

Cool!

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 09:44:10 AM

Quote from: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:41:22 AM
Cool!

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Cooler ....
After 7 weeks waiting , this bad boy turned up yesterday from down under
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/d49559bf005d8fb000776f0d50605e2a.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/55b0162bbc080d47573d22474415932a.jpg)
Cosmo inlet

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:46:22 AM

Is that a fuel rail (tank) on top...thats blimin massive!

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 09:50:50 AM

Quote from: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:46:22 AM
Is that a fuel rail (tank) on top...thats blimin massive!

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Yep think so
Itâ€™ll carry about 1.5 litres ............
Pete did ask can I now eliminate a swirl pot
No really sure yet

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:53:30 AM

Does the bonnet shut with that on?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 10:04:04 AM

Quote from: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:53:30 AM
Does the bonnet shut with that on?

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Ha ha yep I hope so
Forgot how low the engine sits , had to Jack it up 18 inches to comfortably work on the alternator relocation

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 17, 2020, 10:05:32 AM

Be nice to know why its so big for knowledge!

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 10:27:33 AM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 09:44:10 AM
Quote from: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:41:22 AM
Cool!

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Cooler ....
After 7 weeks waiting , this bad boy turned up yesterday from down under
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/51b053623b12b170e77a870bf305c0bb.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/d49559bf005d8fb000776f0d50605e2a.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/55b0162bbc080d47573d22474415932a.jpg)
Cosmo inlet

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Where and how much?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 10:37:00 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 10:27:33 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 09:44:10 AM
Quote from: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:41:22 AM
Cool!

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Cooler ....
After 7 weeks waiting , this bad boy turned up yesterday from down under
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/51b053623b12b170e77a870bf305c0bb.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/d49559bf005d8fb000776f0d50605e2a.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/55b0162bbc080d47573d22474415932a.jpg)
Cosmo inlet

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Where and how much?

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Grant wash your mouth out

Can you ask them questions on here

From down under
Itâ€™s a Phil laird Cosmo intake
All in , shipping - customs etc between 1300-1400 quid
Bargain I thought with 6 Bosch Injectors too

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2020, 10:43:47 AM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 09:38:46 AM
Project cars back in
Only a bit of work but decided to use the RX8 oil filter housing , small bit of machining required (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/db23b577f48e1d8dfe7058364326b986.jpg)
And we can use the original metal gasket too
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/4b71d3ad7df94dc0c2836c2dc72de74f.jpg)
Job done
Can easily reach the oil filter from under the UIM as Iâ€™ll be using electric water pump . And no fabrication to the bulkhead
Alternator is on , just need to cut 30 -40 mm out of the arm to tidy it up .
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/f98f53d2e7deba585487ec54c024a0eb.jpg)
All going well should get the Throttle body adaptor on UIM this evening .
Then need to bore everyone about turbo choices again
Nice install :sign0098:

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on July 17, 2020, 10:46:22 AM

That intake is HUGE! Jesus !

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 11:08:59 AM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 10:27:33 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 09:44:10 AM
Quote from: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:41:22 AM
Cool!

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Cooler ....
After 7 weeks waiting , this bad boy turned up yesterday from down under
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/51b053623b12b170e77a870bf305c0bb.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/d49559bf005d8fb000776f0d50605e2a.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/55b0162bbc080d47573d22474415932a.jpg)
Cosmo inlet

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Where and how much?

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Grant wash your mouth out
Can you ask them questions on here
From down under
Itâ€™s a Phil laird Cosmo intake
All in , shipping - customs etc between 1300-1400 quid
Bargain I thought with 6 Bosch Injectors too

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Prety good price, but you could have gotten a billet one from Puerto Rico for only a few hundred more

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 01:40:30 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 11:08:59 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 10:27:33 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 09:44:10 AM
Quote from: boosted on July 17, 2020, 09:41:22 AM
Cool!

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Cooler ....
After 7 weeks waiting , this bad boy turned up yesterday from down under
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/51b053623b12b170e77a870bf305c0bb.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/d49559bf005d8fb000776f0d50605e2a.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200717/55b0162bbc080d47573d22474415932a.jpg)
Cosmo inlet

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Where and how much?

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Grant wash your mouth out
Can you ask them questions on here
From down under
Itâ€™s a Phil laird Cosmo intake
All in , shipping - customs etc between 1300-1400 quid
Bargain I thought with 6 Bosch Injectors too

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Prety good price, but you could have gotten a billet one from Puerto Rico for only a few hundred more

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I never knew that
To be honest , I wasnâ€™t expecting such a big charge on postage and UK customs tax

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 01:41:09 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on July 17, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
That intake is HUGE! Jesus !

Be handy if it works too

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 02:25:00 PM

Customs charges are embarrassing. Honestly iv ordered stuff from Australia before. About a grands worth of stuff and never got charged a penny.

Iv always been charged stuff from America though.

What questions do you have about turbos?

I would first say to you, hp goals, what rpm are you revving it too and how much would you want to spend on a turbo?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 03:04:16 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 02:25:00 PM
Customs charges are embarrassing. Honestly iv ordered stuff from Australia before. About a grands worth of stuff and never got charged a penny.

Iv always been charged stuff from America though.

What questions do you have about turbos?

I would first say to you, hp goals, what rpm are you revving it too and how much would you want to spend on a turbo?

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Looking at 420 would be sufficient but drivable as itâ€™s a track car so stays in boost rather than loads of lag .
Not sure whether to go internal wastgates or not .
I will have to be careful about noise restrictions on circuits .
Iâ€™m told that wastegates would need to returned into exhaust to keep noise down if the were separate .
And anything I read in the meantime I guess
Itâ€™s a rather big learning curve for me so Iâ€™m all ears

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 03:12:12 PM

Plumbed back in WG will be a must. No point turning up to a track and then getting kicked off only to have to get the WG plumbed back in anyway.

420 to the wheels?

Internal WG turbo then I'd say you should look at the EFR turbos. Super fast spooling but they're not cheap at all

You are full bridge ported aren't you?

Probably revving to 9k max.

I will have A look for stuff, but there's loads. Prety much every combo has been done. So there enough info out there

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 17, 2020, 03:18:44 PM

Gert big ker choo choo! Efr 8374.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 03:19:27 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 03:12:12 PM
Plumbed back in WG will be a must. No point turning up to a track and then getting kicked off only to have to get the WG plumbed back in anyway.

420 to the wheels?

Internal WG turbo then I'd say you should look at the EFR turbos. Super fast spooling but they're not cheap at all

You are full bridge ported aren't you?

Probably revving to 9k max.

I will have A look for stuff, but there's loads. Prety much every combo has been done. So there enough info out there

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Thanks Grant
420 at fly to start will be plenty
See how I go

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 03:21:57 PM

Quote from: boosted on July 17, 2020, 03:18:44 PM
Gert big ker choo choo! Efr 8374.

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Ouph thatâ€™s a cracker
Know nowt about them mind

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 17, 2020, 03:27:34 PM

Grant will choose you suitable turbo from efr range..8374 maybe a tad too more than 420hp..more like 750hp full chat.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 03:33:50 PM

Quote from: boosted on July 17, 2020, 03:27:34 PM
Grant will choose you suitable turbo from efr range..8374 maybe a tad too more than 420hp..more like 750hp full chat.

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Just got out my big boy turbo now

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 05:05:29 PM

GT 35R or what ever the latest version Garret are offering would probably be perfect.

Clive spec turbo would be exactly what your after too.

Different back housing and running. Lower boost at first be perfect.

Bridge ports will spool up turbos quicker.

You can run a smaller turbo but run a large turbine housing

Turbine housings aren't expensive either so you can just swap them when you want to alter your power band and power range

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 05:21:20 PM

Garret G25-660 would be a great choice but they're not cheap at all

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 05:26:14 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 05:21:20 PM
Garret G25-660 would be a great choice but they're not cheap at all

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Thanks Grant
Iâ€™ll look into them
Will take a while for it all to sink in and understand
Much appreciated
Did you see my reply to that orange RX7 ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 05:46:13 PM

The new G series also come in reverse rotation options so they can fit better. They also don't bother offering divided entry on the turbine side with them because they are so responsive compared to what they used to be, especially with the billet wheels and ball bearing technology.

The 660 number is what HP they are capable of but when you apply that to our rotaries it means less.

My turbo is rated at 800hp on a piston engine but more like 600-650 on a 13B.

So the 660 probably equates to some where in the 400 range

HOWEVER

Because rotaries run hotter than piston engines we can use bigger turbos as we can spool them faster....

The GT35R used to be a great popular choice for 13Bs, fast spooling etc but they now offer that turbo in the G35-900 and G-1050 whereas before people chose them for 450 hp

Absolute minefield.

Pick your budget then look at different options

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boston-rotary on July 17, 2020, 05:52:51 PM

Wayne i think i'm going with the borgwarner 8374 iwg AR 0.92 twinscroll T4 :icon_thumright:

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 05:55:23 PM

What's the turbo you have now?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 05:57:21 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 05:55:23 PM
What's the turbo you have now?

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Me or Boston rotary ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boston-rotary on July 17, 2020, 06:00:30 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 05:55:23 PM
What's the turbo you have now?

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Me or Boston rotary ?

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Grant i'm at the same stage there abouts as Wayne still work in progress

Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 06:06:57 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 05:55:23 PM
What's the turbo you have now?

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Me or Boston rotary ?

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You.

I'm just looking on turblown/turbosource site as they have loads of kits for rotaries, loads of dyno testing and comparisons

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 06:09:37 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 06:06:57 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 05:55:23 PM
What's the turbo you have now?

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Me or Boston rotary ?

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You.

I'm just looking on turblown/turbosource site as they have loads of kits for rotaries, loads of dyno testing and comparisons

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Feel a bit daft really as I donâ€™t even know whatâ€™s Iâ€™m looking for

Leaving all the searching to you
Hers the one I currently have which would suit your car

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 06:17:59 PM

Yep S475 be ideal for my car, especially with the methanol and no intercooler

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 06:29:26 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 06:17:59 PM
Yep S475 be ideal for my car, especially with the methanol and no intercooler

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Can do a deal , yours is right for mine if I remember ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 07:11:06 PM

Iv cut a hole in my turbine housing

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 17, 2020, 07:14:31 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 07:11:06 PM
Iv cut a hole in my turbine housing

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Oh yeah ,..........,
They are cheap mind

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 17, 2020, 07:58:41 PM

And I've just sent compressor housing off for welding up. What would you sell your turbo for?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2020, 05:54:00 PM

8374 EFR

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 18, 2020, 06:08:03 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2020, 05:54:00 PM
8374 EFR(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200718/fb32bc3cc904eb30536c170e0cd30095.jpg)

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Cheers Grant
Just looking it up , so thatâ€™s the Borg Warner efr kit
Pretty much same price as the Garret you said yesterday .

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2020, 06:25:59 PM

Yeh, and I think they even do manifolds for REW swapped rx8s like yours

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2020, 06:33:32 PM

Well a turbo and manifold aren't cheap at all

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 18, 2020, 06:36:18 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2020, 06:33:32 PM
Well a turbo and manifold aren't cheap at all(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200718/7c67597ecb1048cf7e10521881510399.jpg)

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Yep sure are

I do have a manifold but from left hand drive so needs adapting around steering rack . That why wondering how little room I ha e in that area for wastegates too

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on July 18, 2020, 06:36:30 PM

Wtf how much ????

Why ?

Itâ€™s a bit of pipe

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 18, 2020, 06:50:00 PM

FD tax?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on July 18, 2020, 06:54:28 PM

Iâ€™ll drive to your home and tig up a manifold for half that price and still make money.

Jeeez Iâ€™m in the wrong business

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 18, 2020, 06:57:46 PM

Me 2 i work with an ex navy engineer who is a fantastic welder fabricator and tool maker who can make anything on a lathe or mill...im just a sparky mind.
If we opened up a fab shop im sure we would succeed! But then you have people issues!!!

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 18, 2020, 07:02:56 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on July 18, 2020, 06:36:30 PM
Wtf how much ????

Why ?

Itâ€™s a bit of pipe

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Yep

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Title: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 18, 2020, 07:04:22 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on July 18, 2020, 06:54:28 PM
Iâ€™ll drive to your home and tig up a manifold for half that price and still make money.

Jeeez Iâ€™m in the wrong business

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Thatâ€™s where Iâ€™m quite lucky that Iâ€™ve got a base to modify
My butty Owen is learning to tig at the mo so
Souls be ok
Might have to come and get you for a day
Unless I can get Jons butty too

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2020, 08:59:36 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on July 18, 2020, 06:36:30 PM
Wtf how much ????

Why ?

Itâ€™s a bit of pipe

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Oh no, that amount is the total for manifold and the turbo and other bits.

The manifold on its own is 900 dollars

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on July 18, 2020, 09:00:18 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2020, 08:59:36 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 18, 2020, 06:36:30 PM
Wtf how much ????

Why ?

Itâ€™s a bit of pipe

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Oh no, that amount is the total for manifold and the turbo and other bits.

The manifold on its own is 900 dollars

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Again how much ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2020, 09:07:38 PM

The rx8 engine BAY, aswell as my mx5 just isn't that wide compared to an FD and FC RX7.

TURBLOWN offer a top mount manifold and a low mount but there's no picture of the low mount manifold

Running the IWG EFR turbo helps you on space constraints for sure

If you can squeeze a 3.5" exhaust in compared to a 3" from what iv been reading you will pick up some hp with an IWG turbo set up, think its down to reducing the back pressure in the exhaust sytem

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2020, 09:09:21 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on July 18, 2020, 09:00:18 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 18, 2020, 08:59:36 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 18, 2020, 06:36:30 PM
Wtf how much ????

Why ?

Itâ€™s a bit of pipe

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Oh no, that amount is the total for manifold and the turbo and other bits.

The manifold on its own is 900 dollars

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Again how much ?

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Yeh I know.

Think my manifold cost me 200quid tops

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on July 19, 2020, 05:10:24 AM

What kind of exhaust ports you have?

Cause turbos that size, will probably need big peripheral d ports to start spooling earlier

I have no idea how Renny side ports would get it to spool early...

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 08:51:19 AM

Quote from: re japi on July 19, 2020, 05:10:24 AM
What kind of exhaust ports you have?

Cause turbos that size, will probably need big peripheral d ports to start spooling earlier I have no idea how Renny side ports would get it to spool early...

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He's using a proper 13B not one of those silly renesis ones

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on July 19, 2020, 09:01:57 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 08:51:19 AM
Quote from: re japi on July 19, 2020, 05:10:24 AM
What kind of exhaust ports you have?

Cause turbos that size, will probably need big peripheral d ports to start spooling earlier I have no idea how Renny side ports would get it to spool early...

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He's using a proper 13B not one of those silly renesis ones

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Ouch !

Like a knife to my heart lol

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 09:21:51 AM

For. Clarity , what is the exact size of the exhaust ports on standard engine , any one know ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 09:31:01 AM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 09:21:51 AM
For. Clarity , what is the exact size of the exhaust ports on standard engine , any one know ?

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Height and width?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 09:58:39 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 09:31:01 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 09:21:51 AM
For. Clarity , what is the exact size of the exhaust ports on standard engine , any one know ?

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Height and width?

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Yeah
Wondering if I can measure if they are ported but I guess most of the work will be done on the inside .
Wondering whether to pay some one to take the engine apart to see whatâ€™s what before I get it going .
Or would anything be damaged if that was done

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 10:41:55 AM

You wouldn't damage anything having it pulled apart, slight chance you might need to put new water seals when putting it back together but everything else should be OK I'd say.

Take a picture of the exhaust ports with your flash on, might be able to see if they're larger.

Some people don't open the exhaust ports much, some people open them up a lot.

Do you k ow who did the porting on it?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 11:23:02 AM

Grant
Itâ€™s alleged to have a race bridge port with ported inlet and exhaust ports . The buy was a bit of risk and reward . If it is as said was very cheap . If it does need work it would still sit under the price of a rebuilt engine .
Came from time attack race car .
Hence why Iâ€™d like to get it taken it apart to check .

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 19, 2020, 11:28:27 AM

No point taking apart for looksee as may as well rebuild. If she turns over nice by hand with even compression resistance voila. Or connect to gearbox and starter comp test.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 12:17:29 PM

Quote from: boosted on July 19, 2020, 11:28:27 AM
No point taking apart for looksee as may as well rebuild. If she turns over nice by hand with even compression resistance voila. Or connect to gearbox and starter comp test.

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I did think about that
Was worried if I would damage anything without oil in the engine
Oh , and would I need a clutch as thatâ€™s not fitted yet

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 01:02:45 PM

But of oil squirted in there and turned over by hand will guve some protection. Plus the engine should have built with assembly lube.

Turn the motor over by hand and if you hear 6 good psshhts it's alright on the apex seals lol

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 01:17:05 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 01:02:45 PM
But of oil squirted in there and turned over by hand will guve some protection. Plus the engine should have built with assembly lube.

Turn the motor over by hand and if you hear 6 good psshhts it's alright on the apex seals lol

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Engine has been ran before
It done 2 rounds of time attack apparently
It does turn over fine by hand and puffs and farts ok

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 01:41:29 PM

It will be absolutely fine then bud, leave it as is and get it running.

If you have the second motor, with the cosmo plates , I would invest in getting it fully balanced and get the rotors scalloped

Will make it much more capable of turning 10,000rpm

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 01:47:18 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on July 19, 2020, 09:01:57 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 08:51:19 AM
Quote from: re japi on July 19, 2020, 05:10:24 AM
What kind of exhaust ports you have?

Cause turbos that size, will probably need big peripheral d ports to start spooling earlier I have no idea how Renny side ports would get it to spool early...

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He's using a proper 13B not one of those silly renesis ones

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Ouch !

Like a knife to my heart lol

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The MSP is decent, it's just that when you want powaaaah you need peripheral exhausts. Lol

230hp NA is prety damn impressive although they don't brap

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on July 19, 2020, 02:00:04 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 08:51:19 AM
Quote from: re japi on July 19, 2020, 05:10:24 AM
What kind of exhaust ports you have?

Cause turbos that size, will probably need big peripheral d ports to start spooling earlier I have no idea how Renny side ports would get it to spool early...

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He's using a proper 13B not one of those silly renesis ones

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Oh, I see, my bad

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on July 19, 2020, 02:05:52 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 09:21:51 AM
For. Clarity , what is the exact size of the exhaust ports on standard engine , any one know ?

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Dont remember any more...

But port placement and size does matter, basically it determines how turbo spools up

In right, is original S5 exhaust. In left is mine. Its Pineapple EP4, with 2mm per side wider, and more agressive opening. So, basically, "full race port".

Some dudes here have basically full D shape to get good pulses to turbo. And it works too. But I didnt want to go so agressive (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200719/9a7696386797a7233f2460ff48943103.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on July 19, 2020, 02:07:16 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: Jamie R on July 19, 2020, 09:01:57 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 08:51:19 AM
Quote from: re japi on July 19, 2020, 05:10:24 AM
What kind of exhaust ports you have?

Cause turbos that size, will probably need big peripheral d ports to start spooling earlier I have no idea how Renny side ports would get it to spool early...

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He's using a proper 13B not one of those silly renesis ones

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Ouch !

Like a knife to my heart lol

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The MSP is decent, it's just that when you want powaaaah you need peripheral exhausts. Lol

230hp NA is prety damn impressive although they don't brap

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Yes, that true.

Nah, you can make it brap easily

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 03:12:38 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 01:41:29 PM
It will be absolutely fine then bud, leave it as is and get it running.

If you have the second motor, with the cosmo plates , I would invest in getting it fully balanced and get the rotors scalloped

Will make it much more capable of turning 10,000rpm

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Cheers Grant
The Cosmo plated engine is also Bridgeported . Has a fresh rebuild but never been ran .
It was built by power gains thatâ€™s all I know

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 03:17:47 PM

This is Interesting . A question I was Asked other day by a friend about using the holset turbo and Mr stav tech .
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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 03:18:54 PM

Quote from: re japi on July 19, 2020, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 09:21:51 AM
For. Clarity , what is the exact size of the exhaust ports on standard engine , any one know ?

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Dont remember any more... But port placement and size does matter, basically it determines how turbo spools up

In right, is original S5 exhaust. In left is mine. Its Pineapple EP4, with 2mm per side wider, and more agressive opening. So, basically, "full race port".

Some dudes here have basically full D shape to get good pulses to turbo. And it works too. But I didnt want to go so agressive (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200719/9a7696386797a7233f2460ff48943103.jpg)

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Nice.
Thanks Japi

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 03:36:29 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 03:17:47 PM
This is Interesting . A question I was Asked other day by a friend about using the holset turbo and Mr stav tech .
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200719/ae5c503f4c985e342e87f5db4d255681.jpg)

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Is he saying thays from a holsets turbo? Which one?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 03:42:46 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 03:36:29 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 03:17:47 PM
This is Interesting . A question I was Asked other day by a friend about using the holset turbo and Mr stav tech .
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200719/abd30dd07008a35b81c45b1ebaddabf6.jpg)
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Is he saying thays from a holsets turbo? Which one?

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Yep
HX50
My mate says this guys very clever with turbos
Iâ€™m just reading and understanding at the mo

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 04:17:46 PM

I'm trying to work out if it's the Stav that used to frequent the forums years ago... A fair few lads more knowledgeable used to say he was full of crap

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 04:18:49 PM

Id possibly be in inclined to say that is fwhp not rwhp too

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 19, 2020, 05:31:28 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 04:18:49 PM
Id possibly be in inclined to say that is fwhp not rwhp too

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Yeah you could be right
Iâ€™m not sure ,

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 19, 2020, 10:45:28 PM

Just had a nosey, it is 600fwhp which is mighty impressive.

The hx50 is equivalent to a GT42, bws475 etc so it's going to make power at a lower boost as it is simply shifting more more cfm

You would find your S475 achieve similar numbers but I would say it will come on hsrd in a short period of rpm.

Track car you want a more predictable power band, spool early, peak and hold over a broad power band, just like a V8.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on July 20, 2020, 07:19:38 AM

Well.. When it comes to US power figures, I dont believe them. Many of them are announcing powers that their turbos can not produce. Its simple math, and specs of their components...

Like getting massive power with stock ports, little boost and too small turbo

However, there some really good shops that can do quite impressive stuff.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 07:21:04 PM

If MRC ever start a dick of the day thread , let this be the start .

Wednesday got my finger caught between alternator belt and upper pulley whilst engine was running . ( stupid I know )
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Looks like itâ€™s a few days/ weeks off the spanners and track days for this dumb ass

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 25, 2020, 07:22:46 PM

Argghh.makes me whince!
Hope it gets better soon.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 07:39:11 PM

Jesus youâ€™re very lucky ya didnâ€™t lose it

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 07:59:12 PM

Could have been worse, you could have accidentally seen how far your finger can go into the turbo whilst it's running

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 08:03:16 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 07:39:11 PM
Jesus youâ€™re very lucky ya didnâ€™t lose it

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I have lost quite a few mm and nail too .......

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 08:04:09 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 07:59:12 PM
Could have been worse, you could have accidentally seen how far your finger can go into the turbo whilst it's running

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Thatâ€™s something a
Else Iâ€™ll need to remember

You speaking from experience Grant ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 08:06:42 PM

Reminds me of when Daryl Beattie lost all his toes in 1994 when he come off his motorbike and his boot went between the chain and the rear sprocket .......

Ooosshhhhh

Ya wouldnâ€™t wanna drop a pack of salt n vinegar crisps on that !

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 08:24:42 PM

Tappatalk won't let me post anymore pictures

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 08:26:11 PM

Turbo depth gauge whilst running ended well(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/31e3071566d702a7f1683d91c7406024.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 08:40:32 PM

Quote from: Jamie R on July 25, 2020, 08:06:42 PM
Reminds me of when Daryl Beattie lost all his toes in 1994 when he come off his motorbike and his boot went between the chain and the rear sprocket .......

Ooosshhhhh

Ya wouldnâ€™t wanna drop a pack of salt n vinegar crisps on that !

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Oh shit tar sounds awful

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 08:42:12 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 08:26:11 PM
Turbo depth gauge whilst running ended well(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/31e3071566d702a7f1683d91c7406024.jpg)

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Really ? Bloody hell just. Looks like youâ€™ve bent your finger
Shit that must have hurt

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 08:46:29 PM

Quote from: boosted on July 25, 2020, 07:22:46 PM
Argghh.makes me whince!
Hope it gets better soon.

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Cheers Jon

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 08:58:45 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 08:42:12 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 08:26:11 PM
Turbo depth gauge whilst running ended well(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/31e3071566d702a7f1683d91c7406024.jpg)

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Really ? Bloody hell just. Looks like youâ€™ve bent your finger
Shit that must have hurt

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How can you tell I bent my finger

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 10:00:20 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 08:58:45 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 08:42:12 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on July 25, 2020, 08:26:11 PM
Turbo depth gauge whilst running ended well(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/31e3071566d702a7f1683d91c7406024.jpg)

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Really ? Bloody hell just. Looks like youâ€™ve bent your finger
Shit that must have hurt

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How can you tell I bent my finger

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Ha ha you donâ€™t have a stump

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 28, 2020, 07:22:48 PM

Had my own whoppsie today..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200728/8343cc88c46ba5e5fbe539ae9523095e.jpg)

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Title: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 28, 2020, 07:26:02 PM

Quote from: boosted on July 28, 2020, 07:22:48 PM
Had my own whoppsie today..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200728/8343cc88c46ba5e5fbe539ae9523095e.jpg)

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Ohhhh what happened there then
2 stitches I reckon ?????
Whereâ€™s the photo of your stump leg gone ?
I donâ€™t think itâ€™s quite appropriate to put a photo up of my. Bardy finger
Itâ€™s a bit gruesome
Unless thereâ€™s plenty of gruesome people who want to see it ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on July 28, 2020, 07:30:59 PM

2 steri strips aint going to hospital...
Suspect stump got lost in forum reboot.
Whacked my self inface with roll bar. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200728/d98a74ea76ff93068d7bf8520242ed6c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on July 28, 2020, 07:54:09 PM

Awwww poorly princess

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 28, 2020, 07:54:35 PM

Quote from: boosted on July 28, 2020, 07:30:59 PM
2 steri strips aint going to hospital...
Suspect stump got lost in forum reboot.
Whacked my self inface with roll bar. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200728/d98a74ea76ff93068d7bf8520242ed6c.jpg)

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Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 28, 2020, 07:26:02 PM
Quote from: boosted on July 28, 2020, 07:22:48 PM
Had my own whoppsie today..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200728/8343cc88c46ba5e5fbe539ae9523095e.jpg)

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Ohhhh what happened there then
2 stitches I reckon ?????
Whereâ€™s the photo of your stump gone ?
I donâ€™t think itâ€™s quite appropriate to put a photo up of mine
Itâ€™s a bit gruesome
Unless thereâ€™s plenty of gruesome people who want to see it ?

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Cracking job

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on July 29, 2020, 06:07:50 AM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 07:21:04 PM
If MRC ever start a dick of the day thread , let this be the start .

Wednesday got my finger caught between alternator belt and upper pulley whilst engine was running . ( stupid I know )
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/bd1fa2c57d472f33cc826f7dfd0b669b.jpg)
Looks like itâ€™s a few days/ weeks off the spanners and track days for this dumb ass

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Oh, I bet that hurt like hell...

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on July 29, 2020, 06:01:10 PM

Quote from: re japi on July 29, 2020, 06:07:50 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on July 25, 2020, 07:21:04 PM
If MRC ever start a dick of the day thread , let this be the start .

Wednesday got my finger caught between alternator belt and upper pulley whilst engine was running . ( stupid I know )
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/bd1fa2c57d472f33cc826f7dfd0b669b.jpg)
Looks like itâ€™s a few days/ weeks off the spanners and track days for this dumb ass

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Oh, I bet that hurt like hell...

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Oh yes
Lots

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 10:54:58 AM

I bought a compression tester
Any of you clever bunch know a formula to normalise the RPM ?
I have looked online for instruction , canâ€™t seem to find any . Have also messaged the manufacturer (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200801/813934a7cf59a374f6c21c1138c9f84c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:30:10 AM

Online mate fox.net.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:30:54 AM

Results...ok..not brill..but just drive it.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 11:32:22 AM

What do you mean normalise it?

If it's a rotary comp tester it should be set up for it?

From memory you have to test it at 250rpm?

Although I think it's dependant on how fast your starter spins

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 11:35:00 AM

Quote from: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:30:10 AM
Online mate fox.net.

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Cheers Jon
Yeah itâ€™s my track car , I know itâ€™s low 6 as I used the Mazda one on it a few months ago which Iâ€™m happy considering itâ€™s done 5000 track miles
Just want to know how to use the tester properly

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 11:36:26 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 11:32:22 AM
What do you mean normalise it?

If it's a rotary comp tester it should be set up for it?

From memory you have to test it at 250rpm?

Although I think it's dependant on how fast your starter spins

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Yep thatâ€™s it
When I used the Mazda one it was spinning the same speed ( 200 ish ) then there was a button to normalise it to 250 rpm to give the true reading

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:46:03 AM

Sent you link.
Fox.ca.
Enter engine type altitude rpm..
6.8 i reckon..

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 11:51:12 AM

Quote from: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:46:03 AM
Sent you link.
Fox.ca.
Enter engine type altitude rpm..
6.8 i reckon..

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Thanks Jon
Must be doing something wrong (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200801/99cd4beb630704717c7982b050c84eb3.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:52:38 AM

Psi wont be decimated...

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:53:02 AM

So lose the 0.

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 11:57:49 AM

Quote from: boosted on August 01, 2020, 11:53:02 AM
So lose the 0.

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Nope
Still same , tried on laptop too
Must be doing something wrong

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 12:02:18 PM

Change you results to bar from psi or results tab...
Dum dum

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 12:02:43 PM

Voila(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200801/c30b015178b6d056b4dd73b6103fec3a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 12:03:27 PM

Fine them results..plenty of life..

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 12:04:31 PM

Quote from: boosted on August 01, 2020, 12:02:18 PM
Change you results to bar from psi or results tab...
Dum dum

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oh yeah
Canâ€™t do that on my phone

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 12:05:33 PM

Heres your results..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200801/6721622073260e87eac4651c78d60f6a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 12:06:07 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 12:04:31 PM
Quote from: boosted on August 01, 2020, 12:02:18 PM
Change you results to bar from psi or results tab...
Dum dum

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oh yeah
Canâ€™t do that on my phone

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thanks Jon
Legend

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on August 01, 2020, 12:07:40 PM

Id worry at results starting with 5..think about an engine soon then but if it starts then just get on with it...bit of premix in the fuel..

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 12:14:02 PM

Quote from: boosted on August 01, 2020, 12:07:40 PM
Id worry at results starting with 5..think about an engine soon then but if it starts then just get on with it...bit of premix in the fuel..

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Yep
Pre mix quite heavily
I do have a spare in garage , only low 6â€™s
Hopefully never use it

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 03:12:21 PM

Just bear in mind that if this motor has only done 2 time attack events after being freshly rebuilt then the compression will go up as the seals bed in

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 03:41:48 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 03:12:21 PM
Just bear in mind that if this motor has only done 2 time attack events after being freshly rebuilt then the compression will go up as the seals bed in

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The readings are from my 8 engine , had to change the plugs so thought Iâ€™d try the the tester out .
Need to pull my finger out and choose a turbo set up for the REW ......
Pete has bought the turblown cast manifold and a turbo with internal wastegate .
So heâ€™ll be limited to around 400 Hp which is adequate .
Iâ€™d be happy with that power , however , when Iâ€™m used to it Iâ€™d like the option to increase HP if I can especially having the Cosmo set up as a stand by . Looked at the turbo source ( turblown ) website about the internal wastegate turbo but they say a Bridgeport engine is better suited to external wastegate .
Manifold is the biggest hurdle , loads of Aussie guys run a single wastegate low down in the manifold with great success .
Before I get mine adapted need to find out best wastegate and best position for it to be within the manifold so Iâ€™m not restricting the manifold in any way . And not messing everything up ....
Need to try and do a lot more research but not getting a lot of time as Iâ€™m Very slow in work only using my left hand navigating a keyboard so work is piling up ..........

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 04:04:02 PM

Ah right, doh.

He's using a cast manifold that fits the rew engine in an rx8?

As for waste gate placement, best place is in the flow path of the exhaust gasses

90 degrees to the exhaust flow it ok

Iv got a tial 60mm wastegate, you should be good with the same unless you just want to use 2 smaller ones

3 or 4 port boost solenoid is what your going to need though, control that boost regardless of what weight spring you have in the wastegate

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 04:43:26 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 04:04:02 PM
Ah right, doh.

He's using a cast manifold that fits the rew engine in an rx8?

As for waste gate placement, best place is in the flow path of the exhaust gasses

90 degrees to the exhaust flow it ok

Iv got a tial 60mm wastegate, you should be good with the same unless you just want to use 2 smaller ones

3 or 4 port boost solenoid is what your going to need though, control that boost regardless of what weight spring you have in the wastegate

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Yep. Cast manifold from turblown
As for wastegate , Iâ€™ve read best to use two smalll ones but will struggle to get 2 pipes returned back to the exhaust as thereâ€™s so little room
Basically need to get something like this (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200801/b4c19a3a8710d0f7a8f4920d533c2cf3.jpg)
Turned into to something like this
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200801/bfcf74694ec27acc93b766fd9a04cdd3.jpg)
Which shouldnâ€™t be a problem so long as I know what pipe parts I need to get for the two into one adaptor for the waste gate and they are in the right position .
I shall keep my eyes peels for a boost solenoid
Thanks Grant

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 05:03:20 PM

4 port boost solenoid is only about 40 quid I think, you will want to get some push lock fittings and line though to make it easier to install

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 05:13:38 PM

If your wanting to make your own manifold then maybe stainless butt weld fittings as you can get all sorts bends and reducers, eccentric and concreic reducers etc OR get the thinner wall stainless U bends like I used, although you maybe better reducing the pipe size to suit a T 4 flange however, depending on the turbo you choose it might have a v band entry.

Pick your turbo and work back from there?

The turbo source rx8 manifold with dual waste gates looks great but its a lot

and requires custom thermostat discharge according to website

I'm assuming that means to go ewp

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 06:00:47 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 05:13:38 PM
If your wanting to make your own manifold then maybe stainless butt weld fittings as you can get all sorts bends and reducers, eccentric and concreic reducers etc OR get the thinner wall stainless U bends like I used, although you maybe better reducing the pipe size to suit a T 4 flange however, depending on the turbo you choose it might have a v band entry.

Pick your turbo and work back from there?

The turbo source rx8 manifold with dual waste gates looks great but its a lot and requires custom thermostat discharge according to website I'm assuming that means to go ewp

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Cheers
I certainly wonâ€™t be welding it , not a skill I hold

Having just read it I never knew they done one for RHD too
I guess Iâ€™m lucky I can adapt the one I have as a base point
Shame I could t borrow one from someone to copy and understand what fittings we need to plumb both piles into one waste gate .
So
Garrett G25-660
Is it best speak to them ask what I would get max output on a rotary ? If itâ€™s only say 440 would I be better going for G25-770
Or going up to a G35 ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 08:46:34 PM

G30 -660 or the 770 would be my choice with a a/r around 1.00

Theu do reverse rotation options top which is nice, helps fit turbos in tighter

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 01, 2020, 09:18:41 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 01, 2020, 08:46:34 PM
G30 -660 or the 770 would be my choice with a a/r around 1.00

Theu do reverse rotation options top which is nice, helps fit turbos in tighter

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I seen the G30 straight after I posted
I guess it depends in HP drop to the rotary .
Have measured exhaust port size and taken photos whilst consuming loverly cold Budweiser
Probably best I upload photos and sizes tomorrow sometime

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 02, 2020, 10:27:12 AM

Exhaust ports
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200802/e780a683d4ccc9356b8b37f7dbf9d9a0.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200802/ddadb124705825341bc30af24d4cb865.jpg)
21 mm high
45 mm wide
Is this normal shape ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 02, 2020, 11:10:10 AM

I'd say they're stock size ports. I can't get to mine to compare is I can't fit my melon head between the engine and chassis to check

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 02, 2020, 12:36:19 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 02, 2020, 11:10:10 AM
I'd say they're stock size ports. I can't get to mine to compare is I can't fit my melon head between the engine and chassis to check

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I have had a squint online but they all show inside of the port not outside
I think FC is different , I think thatâ€™s what you have ?
Cosmo ones are bigger so leads me to think they are standard .
Could do with someone who has one on a bench to match them up

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 02, 2020, 12:38:26 PM

I have fd rotor housings but fc plates

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 02, 2020, 12:39:38 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 02, 2020, 12:38:26 PM
I have fd rotor housings but fc plates

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Ahhhhhhhh
Half right then
Thatâ€™s good for me

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on August 03, 2020, 06:39:58 AM

Looks stock to me

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 03, 2020, 07:09:56 AM

Quote from: re japi on August 03, 2020, 06:39:58 AM
Looks stock to me

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Thanks

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 03, 2020, 06:56:13 PM

Had the dressing changed on my finger today
Feels like I had the op again today / absolute agony
Skin was growing through the goz stuff . 3 days late on dressing change
Ouch and double ouch
Anyways , back to turbos
Need some further expert advice
Pete has gone for this (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200803/fe57cdd665039ecd76cb58658af3b341.jpg)
And is told he probably wonâ€™t get more than 400 HP from it
As you can see itâ€™s 475-750
So if I go G30-770 will I max out on the same or is it different as that one has internal wastegate ?
Any help or advice is appreciated

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 07:17:42 PM

The turbine housing may be a limiting factor on the paek hp from what I understand. A bigger rear housing will move the power band up but should give more hp

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on August 03, 2020, 07:21:12 PM

You want 2 little ht12s..thats all you need

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 03, 2020, 07:29:35 PM

Quote from: boosted on August 03, 2020, 07:21:12 PM
You want 2 little ht12s..thats all you need

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Just have to lose the front chassis leg

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 03, 2020, 07:34:01 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 07:17:42 PM
The turbine housing may be a limiting factor on the paek hp from what I understand. A bigger rear housing will move the power band up but should give more hp

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Time for more reading for me ....... and asking more questions then
Its not that Iâ€™m chasing stupid HP
Just want to make sure the turbo I get will be suitable for this and the Cosmo engine too as the exhaust ports are at least 5 mm bigger on that one
I know itâ€™s going to be 2k for turbo + wastegates exhaust etc

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 08:11:06 PM

As silly as it sounds for me to say this after a lot of discussion BUT stick the S475 on and get it running and then you can see how it works because that turbo will make all the power you want

Only thing is the boost response as in the spool up will be very lazy maybe, which means torque will be less however on a track I cant see you being below 5000 rpm but I would say once that turbo gets going it will pull hard for sure.

Bigger turbos shift more air regardless of the amount of psi. Partly why you can see bigger turbos or a turbo with a bigger rear housing making more hp for the same psi as a smaller one.

The amount I know about turbos is just a hairs worth of the info available.

Tuning a turbo for specific goals is like tuning an engine with regards to cam specs, and valves lol

As regards for running twin turbos, if I had the cash I'd run 2 of those new g series 35 660 just because it would look mint

And would sound even better brapoing away because of zero contamination between exhaust pulse sound waves

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 03, 2020, 09:17:44 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 08:11:06 PM
As silly as it sounds for me to say this after a lot of discussion BUT stick the S475 on and get it running and then you can see how it works because that turbo will make all the power you want

Only thing is the boost response as in the spool up will be very lazy maybe, which means torque will be less however on a track I cant see you being below 5000 rpm but I would say once that turbo gets going it will pull hard for sure.

Bigger turbos shift more air regardless of the amount of psi. Partly why you can see bigger turbos or a turbo with a bigger rear housing making more hp for the same psi as a smaller one.

The amount I know about turbos is just a hairs worth of the info available.

Tuning a turbo for specific goals is like tuning an engine with regards to cam specs, and valves lol

As regards for running twin turbos, if I had the cash I'd run 2 of those new g series 35 660 just because it would look mint

And would sound even better brapoing away because of zero contamination between exhaust pulse sound waves

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Grant
Thatâ€™s funny
Itâ€™s a conversation Grayo and I had earlier
I think I need to concentrate on the engine thatâ€™s in the car not the Cosmo one on the bench . The turbo came with the Cosmo so itâ€™s clearly not right for the one It as both inlet and exhaust ports are much bigger on the cosmo
And trying to marry a turbo for both is going to be hard or nearly impossible
a bit like measuring boobs
Like trying to get a a bra to fit a pair of medium then rather large ones
Itâ€™s never going to fit both I guess ...

So ....
thatâ€™s my thinking
Always welcome to others opinion
Please

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 10:44:33 PM

Can I have a pair of perfect boobs for my car also thanks

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on August 04, 2020, 07:38:25 AM

Yeah, I dont think you can get much more than 400 with that one. Maybe 450 ish max. Dunno for sure, Im not turbo guru

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on August 04, 2020, 07:39:45 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 03, 2020, 07:17:42 PM
The turbine housing may be a limiting factor on the paek hp from what I understand. A bigger rear housing will move the power band up but should give more hp

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Exatly

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 05, 2020, 06:16:13 PM

Are you running an electric water pump setup?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 05, 2020, 06:26:51 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 05, 2020, 06:16:13 PM
Are you running an electric water pump setup?

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Yep so plenty of room
Am also able to use the RX8 oil filter housing now ( with a bit of modification ) so donâ€™t have to batter the firewall on that location . Can slide my arm under the UIM and undo now itâ€™s gone

Just messaging on FDUK and there a lad from RX8OC on there saying he runsthe IWG Borg Warner EFR 8374 itâ€™s itâ€™s good for 500 on his 7.

Donâ€™t know how drivable it is
Ha ha
Itâ€™ll be next year before i know what to use

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 05, 2020, 07:09:01 PM

Have you got a ewp? Lol

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 05, 2020, 07:26:11 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 05, 2020, 07:09:01 PM
Have you got a ewp? Lol

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Yep so plenty of room lol
........

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 11:21:32 AM

Alright bud did you get the excessive lower inlet manifold and the fuel rail with the 4 Injector ports on? If so could you measure the centres of all 4 or take a picture with a tape measure laid down the length please

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 12:27:39 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 11:21:32 AM
Alright bud did you get the excessive lower inlet manifold and the fuel rail with the 4 Injector ports on? If so could you measure the centres of all 4 or take a picture with a tape measure laid down the length please

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Yep
Iâ€™ll do that later

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 01:34:57 PM

Nice one thankyou

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 08:33:41 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 01:34:57 PM
Nice one thankyou

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 08:45:10 PM

Brilliant thanks

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 07, 2020, 09:32:36 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 08:45:10 PM
Brilliant thanks

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 08, 2020, 01:05:18 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 07, 2020, 01:34:57 PM
Nice one thankyou

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Are you making your own ?

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 08, 2020, 01:17:38 PM

Trying to see which fual rails are close enough to fitting in line with UIM runners so I can put another fuel rail on there

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 08, 2020, 01:22:56 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 08, 2020, 01:17:38 PM
Trying to see which fual rails are close enough to fitting in line with UIM runners so I can put another fuel rail on there

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 08, 2020, 01:56:44 PM

Yeh I need - 8 maybe even - 10 to give enough volume for the massive injectors and more importantly the fact that there is going to be 8 in total.

Thanks though.

I had emailed an ozzy company but not had a reply about some - 8 fuel rails

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 08, 2020, 02:06:07 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 08, 2020, 01:56:44 PM
Yeh I need - 8 maybe even - 10 to give enough volume for the massive injectors and more importantly the fact that there is going to be 8 in total.

Thanks though.

I had emailed an ozzy company but not had a reply about some - 8 fuel rails

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Wow
Big boy stuff

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on August 08, 2020, 02:06:44 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on August 08, 2020, 01:56:44 PM
Yeh I need - 8 maybe even - 10 to give enough volume for the massive injectors and more importantly the fact that there is going to be 8 in total.

Thanks though.

I had emailed an ozzy company but not had a reply about some - 8 fuel rails

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Wow
Big boy stuff

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on August 08, 2020, 04:55:22 PM

Can't ever have too much fuel system

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Title: Re: Wayneâ€™s boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on August 13, 2020, 06:12:34 AM

Yeah, I agree. I went big too, even tho Im not planning to get big power. Early in my build, I desided to get everything done ready to support if I want to go bigger. Engine might do 450-470 ish figures, but fuel system that I built, can support maybe +600 figures, just by changing injectors. Also, there is everything ready for second big fuel pump, and bigger in tank pump

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 07, 2020, 03:40:37 PM

Any progress?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 07, 2020, 03:46:06 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 07, 2020, 03:40:37 PM
Any progress?

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Nah not really
can't really get stuck in yet until my finger heals properly - shouldn't be too long ( no puns please

) before it's got a layer of skin over it
Just keeping an eye out for efr8375 IWG at a decent price . Pete paid £1700 for his
They are currently around £2200-£2500
And get my manifold adapted to suit

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 07, 2020, 03:48:47 PM

Just about to measure if an FC intercooler will fit - seen one for sale locally
Not sure if it would be big enough

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 07, 2020, 04:49:11 PM

Yeh saw a post on turblown fb page that the prices of the efr turbos was going up by 15% or something daft

stuff like that should get cheaper over time, not more expensive!

A stock intercooler or an aftermarket one?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 07, 2020, 05:05:38 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on September 07, 2020, 04:49:11 PM
Yeh saw a post on turblown fb page that the prices of the efr turbos was going up by 15% or something daft stuff like that should get cheaper over time, not more expensive!

A stock intercooler or an aftermarket one?

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Stock I think
Waiting for photos of the size of it

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on September 07, 2020, 05:06:32 PM

GARRETT realising turbos soon to match or better Efr range....

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 07, 2020, 05:07:52 PM

Quote from: boosted on September 07, 2020, 05:06:32 PM
GARRETT realising turbos soon to match or better Efr range....

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Probably realising how much money they can make

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on September 07, 2020, 05:47:56 PM

If the garrets were decent priced I'd like to put 2 of those G30/G35 700 or whatever they on my car.

2 smaller turbos making much better brap sounds, and looking much better lol

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 16, 2020, 03:19:51 PM

Me and Jon in thruxton on Monday
Was a very good day
Bloody trouble makers the Wiltshire lot

https://youtu.be/gxFApG-4H9A

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2020, 03:21:12 PM

You won...5 to my 1 lol...
Blimin hilarious Waynes vids...you Cupid Stunt

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 16, 2020, 03:27:12 PM

Quote from: boosted on September 16, 2020, 03:21:12 PM
You won...5 to my 1 lol...
Blimin hilarious Waynes vids...you Cupid Stunt

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Was wondering on adding any more...........
Bad Influence
Is there plenty or track day drivers on here ?
Would like honest opinions on my few black flags

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2020, 03:34:36 PM

Overtake on the right..no hang on left...yep left!!
But what do you do if slower car pulls over to left and slams brakes on...you go to the right in a split second decision...
Or you get stuck behind a slower than me suoercharged Aerial Atom for 2 laps until he decides to pit

Its just MSE days Waynes more interested in the Novices than experienced track drivers...not pulling over and pulling over on wrong side should be a black flag offence too imo.
Thing is you went right i went right...2 black flags but slow car fully over on left side at run off from church corner at 120mph plus...gets nothing carry on do it again next lap but not us as were getting a telling off in pitlane.
I might email ED.

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 16, 2020, 03:38:02 PM

Quote from: boosted on September 16, 2020, 03:34:36 PM
Overtake on the right..no hang on left...yep left!!
But what do you do if slower car pulls over to left and slams brakes on...you go to the right in a split second decision...
Or you get stuck behind a slower than me suoercharged Aerial Atom for 2 laps until he decides to pit
Its just MSE days Waynes more interested in the Novices than experienced track drivers...not pulling over and pulling over on wrong side should be a black flag offence too imo.
Thing is you went right i went right...2 black flags but slow car fully over on left side at run off from camp at 120mph plus...gets nothing carry on do it again next lap but not us as were getting a telling off in pitlane.
I might email ED.

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Careful now squire I'll be banned for life from MSE Trackdays
I shall add the rest with black flag incident times .......

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2020, 03:40:58 PM

If he sees you vids he might change his mind..some epic driving by you and then the frustration of the muppets out there...motorbikes they run novice intermediate and experienced sessions...i think really this is the way togo...
They could add another category...just 4 u.
Potty mounthed flying machine

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 16, 2020, 03:41:36 PM

Quote from: boosted on September 16, 2020, 03:40:58 PM
If he sees you vids he might change his mind..some epic driving by you and then the frustration of the muppets out there...motorbikes they run novice intermediate and experienced sessions...i think really this is the way togo...
They could add another category...just 4 u.
Potty mounthed flying machine

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on September 16, 2020, 03:42:31 PM

Looks like you both had a good day :great:

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 16, 2020, 03:43:45 PM

Right here goes
Second session
Black flag incident was me over taking 2 cars at 5.42

https://youtu.be/4SBPVXE9aHM

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 16, 2020, 03:50:10 PM

Third session
No black flag

https://youtu.be/SJofxTMFx5s

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 16, 2020, 03:51:31 PM

Fourth session
Black flag incident at 11.02 over taking again ........

https://youtu.be/uNMiRgQOf38

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 16, 2020, 03:52:58 PM

Fifth and final
Black flag at 12.47 overtaking on wrong side

Early shower for spiller

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on September 16, 2020, 03:59:53 PM

Yep Brill day Clive..little mx5 punching well above its weight...and was great fun fun fun

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on September 16, 2020, 04:17:41 PM

Pleased you both had a good day.
Must be tough not to overtake on those long corners, hang one of you did :))

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 16, 2020, 04:19:02 PM

Quote from: clive on September 16, 2020, 04:17:41 PM
Pleased you both had a good day.
Must be tough not to overtake on those long corners, hang one of you did :))

Ha ha with consent of course Mr Hawkins

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 27, 2020, 11:08:19 AM

First session Bedford
Was a bit damp
Jon you will love it there

https://youtu.be/I9ZkaoOkySo
Watch the MR2 2 cars in front on pit straight last 20 seconds

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on September 27, 2020, 11:23:07 AM

Had to watch twice...did it roll?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on September 27, 2020, 11:25:04 AM

Good driving...ill have to watch a few times for circuit knowledge..get them pesky kitcars b4 they have chance togo in the pits..
Civic sold yesterday...breakers bought whimper..blackdog being put down

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 27, 2020, 11:26:39 AM

Quote from: boosted on September 27, 2020, 11:23:07 AM
Had to watch twice...did it roll?

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Nope
It bounced and spun 360 a few times but stayed the right way up thankfully

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on September 27, 2020, 11:27:25 AM

Least he was trying..

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 27, 2020, 11:29:18 AM

Here's a few more

https://youtu.be/KqWOJd-mw-A
Session 3

https://youtu.be/UeHpuQ7K9c0
Session 4

https://youtu.be/hhm2xjxyxow
Session 5

https://youtu.be/VxDAZnQCJeY

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on September 27, 2020, 11:52:51 AM

Quote from: boosted on September 27, 2020, 11:27:25 AM
Least he was trying..

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Yep

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 08:33:25 AM

Turbo source are having a 10% discount on efr and sxe turbos

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 14, 2020, 12:57:29 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 08:33:25 AM
Turbo source are having a 10% discount on efr and sxe turbos

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Grant
Thanks buddy
Best get one this week
Been trying all discount codes on e bay but they don't work

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 14, 2020, 12:59:41 PM

Bit damp here
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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on November 14, 2020, 01:15:38 PM

Not alot of run off either...

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 14, 2020, 02:04:10 PM

Quote from: boosted on November 14, 2020, 01:15:38 PM
Not alot of run off either...

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Nope
And it's real greasy too

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 16, 2020, 01:46:39 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 14, 2020, 08:33:25 AM
Turbo source are having a 10% discount on efr and sxe turbos

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Grant
Do you know if it's 20% US customs fee ?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 16, 2020, 03:19:43 PM

Grant ?
Or anyone who can advise ?
8374 is now replaced by the new 8474 which has a bigger wheel with max capability of 950hp but bottom figure is the same so it's basically not working as hard bit more efficient .
Thoughts please as they are same price .
I'm thinking get the newer Improved one ?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on November 16, 2020, 03:27:01 PM

Just had a look at session 3 and looks like you found the quick way with nice smooth lines :icon_thumleft:

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 16, 2020, 06:00:10 PM

Quote from: clive on November 16, 2020, 03:27:01 PM
Just had a look at session 3 and looks like you found the quick way with nice smooth lines :icon_thumleft:

Thanks Clive
I'll take that if it's a compliment
Cheers

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2020, 09:01:18 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 16, 2020, 03:19:43 PM
Grant ?
Or anyone who can advise ?
8374 is now replaced by the new 8474 which has a bigger wheel with max capability of 950hp but bottom figure is the same so it's basically not working as hard bit more efficient .
Thoughts please as they are same price .
I'm thinking get the newer Improved one ?

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Looks good, 68mm compressor wheel.

The one I have got is a 66mm which should be good for 600hp so you defo getting a good sized turbo for a wide range.

Are you bridge porting? I can't remember

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2020, 09:04:55 PM

1.05 T4 turbine housing? For 450 dollars more.

The new one compared to the older slightly smaller one is only 77 dollars in price so might aswell go for the newer bigger one.

I would email them and ask their advice before purchasing and they will re assure you that you are getting the correct turbo for your different goals

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 16, 2020, 09:09:42 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2020, 09:04:55 PM
1.05 T4 turbine housing? For 450 dollars more.

The new one compared to the older slightly smaller one is only 77 dollars in price so might aswell go for the newer bigger one.

I would email them and ask their advice before purchasing and they will re assure you that you are getting the correct turbo for your different goals

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I've spoken with turbo zemtrun ujk
Got decent discount
I said 0.92 twin flange for IWG
Is 1.05 better
I don't have a bloody clue
Sorry .....

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2020, 10:12:13 PM

Internal waste gate will be fine, I remember reading on their testing as people were thinking they wouldn't flow enough gas on a rotary but I think they do

I don't think they're physically any bigger either

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 16, 2020, 10:16:13 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 16, 2020, 10:12:13 PM
Internal waste gate will be fine, I remember reading on their testing as people were thinking they wouldn't flow enough gas on a rotary but I think they do

I don't think they're physically any bigger either

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Thank you Grant

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:05:50 AM

Woryh reading, I'd ignore the last bit about porting, especially if your engine is already ported. Lol.

By the sounds of it, with an iwg efr you are going to have to run 14 psi minimum which I rekon is going to to pump out 500whp

or possibly more, maybe less

https://turbosource.com/blogs/news/choosing-between-iwg-or-ewg-efr-rx7-turbo-systems

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 10:46:19 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:05:50 AM
Woryh reading, I'd ignore the last bit about porting, especially if your engine is already ported. Lol.

By the sounds of it, with an iwg efr you are going to have to run 14 psi minimum which I rekon is going to to pump out 500whp or possibly more, maybe less

https://turbosource.com/blogs/news/choosing-between-iwg-or-ewg-efr-rx7-turbo-systems

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Nice bit of advice in the link
Wondering should I go smaller but the 7470 only reach max 640 hp compared to 8474 which 900
From what I can see it's either t3 WG 0.83 or twinscroll T4 .92 they do IWG

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:23:10 PM

I think a T 3 will be too small for sure, T4 is what most people run due to the size of the runners from the port are roughly the same size of the T4 orifice in the flange

However they do those fancy Tial exhaust housing for some of the turbos but they are more expensive etc

If you measure the surface area of the flange you can work out the diameter of piping you will need for you fanimold

I wrote it down some where in my garage but can't find it lol

I think the exhaust port is actually larger now I think about it but its good to step it down to the T4 size as it helps "spool"

If you read the bumf on turbo source about there cast manifold it has a tapered runner etx

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 01:29:37 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 01:23:10 PM
I think a T 3 will be too small for sure, T4 is what most people run due to the size of the runners from the port are roughly the same size of the T4 orifice in the flange

However they do those fancy Tial exhaust housing for some of the turbos but they are more expensive etc

If you measure the surface area of the flange you can work out the diameter of piping you will need for you fanimold

I wrote it down some where in my garage but can't find it lol

I think the exhaust port is actually larger now I think about it but its good to step it down to the T4 size as it helps "spool"

If you read the bumf on turbo source about there cast manifold it has a tapered runner etx

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Yeah the manifold I have which needs adaption has the tapered pipe on it when it hits the flange from manifold .
Just checking it's the twin scroll I need

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:24:35 PM

Yeh divided entry is what you need.

A single entry will work but I think they find on the dyno is that divided entry turbos spool 500rpms sooner. Whether or not this is something you would notice driving flat out on a track

as you essentially should be keeping the engine running on song with the turbo not requiring spooling lol

But I don't know as I don't drive around a track lol

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 02:34:42 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 02:24:35 PM
Yeh divided entry is what you need.

A single entry will work but I think they find on the dyno is that divided entry turbos spool 500rpms sooner. Whether or not this is something you would notice driving flat out on a track as you essentially should be keeping the engine running on song with the turbo not requiring spooling lol

But I don't know as I don't drive around a track lol

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Ha ha I won't be driving flat out for a while lol
The manifold I have is divided entry

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 03:17:23 PM

I have devised a way to clearence my steering column to my turbo manifold, it's going to involve a hammer and solid bit of round bar

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 17, 2020, 06:24:13 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 17, 2020, 03:17:23 PM
I have devised a way to clearence my steering column to my turbo manifold, it's going to involve a hammer and solid bit of round bar

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Sounds like a must watch
Time lapsed video

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on November 18, 2020, 07:24:25 AM

Funny thing, turbo and header that I have now, purchased it from a friend, they tested different compinations.

They found out that in this setup divided with T3 worked best. Turbo spools up fast and power delivery is smooth.

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 18, 2020, 11:24:12 AM

Quote from: re japi on November 18, 2020, 07:24:25 AM
Funny thing, turbo and header that I have now, purchased it from a friend, they tested different compinations.

They found out that in this setup divided with T3 worked best. Turbo spools up fast and power delivery is smooth.

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What size turbo did they use and what porting did the engine have?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on November 18, 2020, 11:42:25 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 18, 2020, 11:24:12 AM
Quote from: re japi on November 18, 2020, 07:24:25 AM
Funny thing, turbo and header that I have now, purchased it from a friend, they tested different compinations.

They found out that in this setup divided with T3 worked best. Turbo spools up fast and power delivery is smooth.

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What size turbo did they use and what porting did the engine have?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 18, 2020, 12:59:40 PM

Based off my Internet knowledge I'd say that it's loosing out on some top end and it's got more back pressure which if I remember correctly should increase low end torque.

There was a thread years ago on rx7 club discussing all this stuff.

However, if it works it works

it would be interesting to see the difference in EGTs of a T3 versus a T4

I'm going to end up with prety much the same turbo that James ran on his 8 second rx7, and that ran a T6 1.32 rea housing on a s480 turbo and he said he didn't really see the car struggle to spool the turbo even with it being so huge back housing

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on November 19, 2020, 04:35:21 AM

Well, I dont know anything about turbos.

This is S300 based turbo. It made 530 horses at 1,6 bar boost.

And never had issues with back pressure.

However, this turbo is for street driven car, and its too small for your use

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 05:20:09 PM

Just ordered the EFR 8474 IWG

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2020, 05:21:31 PM

Big Boy Boost

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 05:22:54 PM

Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2020, 05:21:31 PM
Big Boy Boost

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Ha ha
I honesty don't know
Good for 400 I hope

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2020, 05:33:49 PM

Your fast with 155!! God help me when you got 400! Jonnies not coming out to play today

When doing the exhaust put some serious silencers in...big regret not putting the rx7 around Thruxton due to noise.

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 06:00:20 PM

Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2020, 05:33:49 PM
Your fast with 155!! God help me when you got 400! Jonnies not coming out to play today
When doing the exhaust put some serious silencers in...big regret not putting the rx7 around Thruxton due to noise.

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think I may be going backwards a few times lol
Yep exhaust is nest to work out if it's 3-3.5 or 4 inch
I'll just get some of them sexy downpipes I used on mine last time

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2020, 06:05:18 PM

Shakedown not at Combe or Thruxton...somewhere with run off

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 06:10:34 PM

Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2020, 06:05:18 PM
Shakedown not at Combe or Thruxton...somewhere with run off

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Thruxton be ok
Stretch it's legs a bit

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2020, 06:14:00 PM

150mph through Church

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 06:16:05 PM

Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2020, 06:14:00 PM
150mph through Church

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Then straight to graveyard lol
Prob get my race licence so I can go local and do some testing

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: MightyCondor on November 25, 2020, 07:17:50 PM

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Big Boy Boost

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Ha ha
I honesty don't know
Good for 400 I hope

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The IWG EFRs are known for not to be able to hold low boost levels without creeping. My 8374 wouldn't stay less than 0.9 bar. You'll be above 400bhp even at that level on an 8474.

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 08:54:57 PM

Quote from: MightyCondor on November 25, 2020, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2020, 05:21:31 PM
Big Boy Boost

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Ha ha
I honesty don't know
Good for 400 I hope

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The IWG EFRs are known for not to be able to hold low boost levels without creeping. My 8374 wouldn't stay less than 0.9 bar. You'll be above 400bhp even at that level on an 8474.

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Ahhh i thought they were 340 -400 tops
Ah well

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on November 25, 2020, 09:53:50 PM

Before you put engine in do Clives oil breather catch can drain to sump mod bud. For a track rew car its been my biggest pita. Emptying catch can.
Quite simply high up on bulkhead catch can plumb in normal way but on bottom a drain pipe that goes to front cover of engine.
This does 2 things allows engine oil caught in catch tank to drain back to sump and allows any blowby to escape this route up through catchtank rather than up the filler neck carrying oil with it.
I get zero oil in my catchtank on road but hit the track 250ml every session. If i fill oil above 3/4 on dipstick ive got a right mess on my hands.

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 26, 2020, 09:08:58 AM

Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2020, 09:53:50 PM
Before you put engine in do Clives oil breather catch can drain to sump mod bud. For a track rew car its been my biggest pita. Emptying catch can.
Quite simply high up on bulkhead catch can plumb in normal way but on bottom a drain pipe that goes to front cover of engine.
This does 2 things allows engine oil caught in catch tank to drain back to sump and allows any blowby to escape this route up through catchtank rather than up the filler neck carrying oil with it.
I get zero oil in my catchtank on road but hit the track 250ml every session. If i fill oil above 3/4 on dipstick ive got a right mess on my hands.

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Thanks Jon
Will do

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on November 26, 2020, 09:11:22 AM

It means drilling a hole for a fitting in the front cover so best when engine out so you can remove sump to clear the swarf..or remove front cover but that has a risk to front torrington bearings.

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 12:22:18 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: MightyCondor on November 25, 2020, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2020, 05:21:31 PM
Big Boy Boost

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Ha ha
I honesty don't know
Good for 400 I hope

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The IWG EFRs are known for not to be able to hold low boost levels without creeping. My 8374 wouldn't stay less than 0.9 bar. You'll be above 400bhp even at that level on an 8474.

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Ahhh i thought they were 340 -400 tops
Ah well

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It literally says 475-750hp on the advert

Thats based on piston engines so the max normally turns down to 80 percent I think when they work it out for us rotards.

So that's 395-600hp.

If it does creep a little bit then I'm sure when the car is mapped they will make sure it's fine for that making it richer in those areas of the map

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 26, 2020, 12:59:10 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 12:22:18 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: MightyCondor on November 25, 2020, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2020, 05:21:31 PM
Big Boy Boost

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Ha ha
I honesty don't know
Good for 400 I hope

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The IWG EFRs are known for not to be able to hold low boost levels without creeping. My 8374 wouldn't stay less than 0.9 bar. You'll be above 400bhp even at that level on an 8474.

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Ahhh i thought they were 340 -400 tops
Ah well

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It literally says 475-750hp on the advert

Thats based on piston engines so the max normally turns down to 80 percent I think when they work it out for us rotards.

So that's 395-600hp.

If it does creep a little bit then I'm sure when the car is mapped they will make sure it's fine for that making it richer in those areas of the map

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Yep
He did say the 8474 is good for 880 BHp

but same bottom end

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 26, 2020, 01:21:53 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 26, 2020, 12:59:10 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2020, 12:22:18 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 08:54:57 PM
Quote from: MightyCondor on November 25, 2020, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 25, 2020, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: boosted on November 25, 2020, 05:21:31 PM
Big Boy Boost

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Ha ha
I honesty don't know
Good for 400 I hope

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The IWG EFRs are known for not to be able to hold low boost levels without creeping. My 8374 wouldn't stay less than 0.9 bar. You'll be above 400bhp even at that level on an 8474.

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Ahhh i thought they were 340 -400 tops
Ah well

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It literally says 475-750hp on the advert

Thats based on piston engines so the max normally turns down to 80 percent I think when they work it out for us rotards.

So that's 395-600hp.

If it does creep a little bit then I'm sure when the car is mapped they will make sure it's fine for that making it richer in those areas of the map

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Yep
He did say the 8474 is good for 880 BHp but same bottom end
I thought it was 70% , not sure where I got that from ....
ah well
Time will tell

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 27, 2020, 11:37:03 AM

All ready for a bit of a trek to Anglesey (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201127/0e867538a2b1c8a807cb1a0217711794.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on November 27, 2020, 11:38:39 AM

Have Fun!

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 27, 2020, 11:39:30 AM

Quote from: boosted on November 27, 2020, 11:38:39 AM
Have Fun!

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Will try
Be leaving shortly for the 4.5 hour drive

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on November 27, 2020, 11:46:14 AM

Who you going with?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 27, 2020, 11:47:14 AM

Quote from: boosted on November 27, 2020, 11:46:14 AM
Who you going with?

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Grayham and Tim in the mini

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on November 27, 2020, 11:48:29 AM

Cool. Thats it for me..this year busy with mods and a cracked fanimold

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 27, 2020, 05:30:22 PM

Quote from: boosted on November 27, 2020, 11:48:29 AM
Cool. Thats it for me..this year busy with mods and a cracked fanimold

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Grayham had a few cracked manifolds till he had a decent not made
Not sure which one you Got ?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on November 27, 2020, 06:52:14 PM

Giz fab find out what he got pls.

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on November 28, 2020, 12:46:33 PM

Mazda's new lawn mower

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on November 28, 2020, 07:23:29 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on November 28, 2020, 12:46:33 PM
Mazda's new lawn mower (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201128/6f962a0f96c0758f755f764eee457ec8.jpg)

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Tidy butt

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on December 04, 2020, 06:08:56 PM

Took these out and lost 6.5 kg
Try and get 5-10 kg off the belly next
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Then cleaned the rotors
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Ordered some replacements rotors as the small cracks are growing and we could hear them cracking when it was in the garage in Anglesey

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2021, 11:05:03 AM

Have your shiny new parts arrived yet?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 26, 2021, 11:58:43 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2021, 11:05:03 AM
Have your shiny new parts arrived yet?

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Nope .....
bit disappointing , I bought from turbo zentrum who did say hopefully second week of jan .
Judging by a lot of people moaning about delayed from USA
Which could be turbosource
I think I'm one of many ........
Plenty to do on the other car so keeping busy

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on January 26, 2021, 12:13:27 PM

Im still waiting on my Kraken manifold...

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2021, 12:59:42 PM

I'm still waiting on my stuff from Australia but JBR takes a month off and my ignition system was delayed in getting too him unfortunately.

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 26, 2021, 06:18:18 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 26, 2021, 12:59:42 PM
I'm still waiting on my stuff from Australia but JBR takes a month off and my ignition system was delayed in getting too him unfortunately.

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Grant
Second answer ............

Sorry for the continued delays with this order. Borg Warner have given us an estimated date, but it's April

Do you want to continue with the order, or cancel it?

Hell of a shock
I did go for the 8474 which was an improved version of the 8374
Might have to start looking whether to stick with an 8374 if that got a better lead time
Turbo guru's please speak up now

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on January 26, 2021, 06:53:55 PM

Its more fun with twins....

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 26, 2021, 07:55:20 PM

Quote from: boosted on January 26, 2021, 06:53:55 PM
Its more fun with twins....

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I know but they don't fit Captain

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 26, 2021, 07:56:59 PM

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T2 loaded up for toooooing tomorrow

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on January 27, 2021, 11:22:21 AM

Have fun good luck.

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 27, 2021, 12:43:07 PM

All new turbos outperform the twin turbos in every way shape and form, boost response, spool, hp heat management etc

Why would someone accept an order of a turbo but not be able to fulfil said order if they don't have the stock?! Quite honestly bad business.

If you had your mind set on the newer version of that turbo then stick too it as deep down you will have regretted not getting it.

Have you tried elsewhere to get ahold of one? I know AET turbos sell EFR stuff but maybe more expensive? However you won't have to worry too much about delivery costs or import duty?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 27, 2021, 02:55:02 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 27, 2021, 12:43:07 PM
All new turbos outperform the twin turbos in every way shape and form, boost response, spool, hp heat management etc

Why would someone accept an order of a turbo but not be able to fulfil said order if they don't have the stock?! Quite honestly bad business.

If you had your mind set on the newer version of that turbo then stick too it as deep down you will have regretted not getting it.

Have you tried elsewhere to get ahold of one? I know AET turbos sell EFR stuff but maybe more expensive? However you won't have to worry too much about delivery costs or import duty?

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It did say awaiting stock
They said 4-6 weeks however things do change a s many others are suffering the same .
I'm just a tad worried if I do go the Cosmo engine that the 8474 maybe better suited
.
Need to get them both stripped down amd have a good look at the ports on both engines

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 27, 2021, 03:10:16 PM

I think what you will find with using cosmo plates is that they will make more hp easier, probably with less boost because you have a lot more volume of air available, providing your cooling the boosted air adequately to increase the air density.

You can always change the rear housing on the turbo to get better top end providing you wouldn't be over spinning the turbo shaft speed.

If you put down 600 rwhp with that turbo on either engine eventually it will be a rocket ship. Providing its not a lard arse

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 27, 2021, 06:11:54 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 27, 2021, 03:10:16 PM
I think what you will find with using cosmo plates is that they will make more hp easier, probably with less boost because you have a lot more volume of air available, providing your cooling the boosted air adequately to increase the air density.

You can always change the rear housing on the turbo to get better top end providing you wouldn't be over spinning the turbo shaft speed.

If you put down 600 rwhp with that turbo on either engine eventually it will be a rocket ship. Providing its not a lard arse

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thanks for your advice grant

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 29, 2021, 02:40:34 PM

Dyno sheets of a street car, running e85. If this kind of power isn't enough for you then I don't know what to say.

Thats on the 8374,bot the 8474 you are getting

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 29, 2021, 09:18:42 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 29, 2021, 02:40:34 PM
Dyno sheets of a street car, running e85. If this kind of power isn't enough for you then I don't know what to say.

Thats on the 8374,bot the 8474 you are getting (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210129/b017419331c75ec0c1faa4cf9f2d852b.jpg)

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Grant
Old eyes struggling to see that
If it's 500hp that's more than I need
I can easily cancel and defer to the 8374 .
I just thought I'd try the 8474 is an improvement on the 8374 that I'd be better with it
Not for BHP just all round improvement

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: MightyCondor on January 29, 2021, 11:56:22 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 29, 2021, 09:18:42 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 29, 2021, 02:40:34 PM
Dyno sheets of a street car, running e85. If this kind of power isn't enough for you then I don't know what to say.

Thats on the 8374,bot the 8474 you are getting (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210129/b017419331c75ec0c1faa4cf9f2d852b.jpg)

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Grant
Old eyes struggling to see that
If it's 500hp that's more than I need
I can easily cancel and defer to the 8374 .
I just thought I'd try the 8474 is an improvement on the 8374 that I'd be better with it
Not for BHP just all round improvement

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From what I understand, the 8474 flows about 10% more than the 8374. Other than sizing differences, I'm not aware of any technology improvements on the newer 8474, so it's really a case of deciding how much power you want, and how much boost you want to run to get there.

The 8374 will spool slightly earlier, have better transient response and will still get to 500bhp at somewhere around 1.2-1.3bar, which is just about where it's entering its efficiency zone.

Once spooled, the 8474 will make easier work, which could be beneficial in temperature management, given that the EFRs are known for running pretty hot.

Depends on your goals and what you intend to use the car for I guess. I'd probably go with the 8374 if you're going to use it on the road and 8474 if it's going to be track only.

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2021, 12:00:51 AM

What the hell happened to the pic when I uploaded it

540 hp

Try upload it again.

Yeh the 84 will be better for sure but its a good example of what you can expect from your setup(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210129/233e31ca8d6cc4ddd4b356da5bdc485d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 10:02:32 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2021, 12:00:51 AM
What the hell happened to the pic when I uploaded it

540 hp

Try upload it again.

Yeh the 84 will be better for sure but its a good example of what you can expect from your setup(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210129/233e31ca8d6cc4ddd4b356da5bdc485d.jpg)

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Ha ha yeah I can see that a little better

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 30, 2021, 10:05:20 AM

Quote from: MightyCondor on January 29, 2021, 11:56:22 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on January 29, 2021, 09:18:42 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 29, 2021, 02:40:34 PM
Dyno sheets of a street car, running e85. If this kind of power isn't enough for you then I don't know what to say.

Thats on the 8374,bot the 8474 you are getting (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210129/b017419331c75ec0c1faa4cf9f2d852b.jpg)

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Grant
Old eyes struggling to see that
If it's 500hp that's more than I need
I can easily cancel and defer to the 8374 .
I just thought I'd try the 8474 is an improvement on the 8374 that I'd be better with it
Not for BHP just all round improvement

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From what I understand, the 8474 flows about 10% more than the 8374. Other than sizing differences, I'm not aware of any technology improvements on the newer 8474, so it's really a case of deciding how much power you want, and how much boost you want to run to get there.

The 8374 will spool slightly earlier, have better transient response and will still get to 500bhp at somewhere around 1.2-1.3bar, which is just about where it's entering its efficiency zone.

Once spooled, the 8474 will make easier work, which could be beneficial in temperature management, given that the EFRs are known for running pretty hot.

Depends on your goals and what you intend to use the car for I guess. I'd probably go with the 8374 if you're going to use it on the road and 8474 if it's going to be track only.

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Alan
Thanks
Yes it will be just a track car , so earlier spooling the better .
Thinking about it , I think it said somewhere unless the engine is heavily ported the 8374 is better

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on January 30, 2021, 10:57:26 AM

What you want is a PAIR of 8374s...i keep telling people twins is the best

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 30, 2021, 11:22:54 AM

Quote from: boosted on January 30, 2021, 10:57:26 AM
What you want is a PAIR of 8374s...i keep telling people twins is the best

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I'd go for some gt30s if I was having twins. They do them in counter rotation too so it would look mint, one turbo spins one way and the other spins the opposite way

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 09:37:03 AM

Not sure if you had forgotten the turbo I run. ;)

https://www.racingbeateurope.com/borg-warner-s364sx-custom-build-turbo-as-used-on-our-own-championship-winning-race-car-3647-p.asp

This year I will put the boost up to where it was mapped to at 540bhp we knocked it back to 520!

As you will know boost comes on so softly and low, it even lets me win races in the wet :)

And the Turbo is built for me in the UK

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 31, 2021, 09:54:58 AM

Quote from: clive on January 31, 2021, 09:37:03 AM
Not sure if you had forgotten the turbo I run. ;)

https://www.racingbeateurope.com/borg-warner-s364sx-custom-build-turbo-as-used-on-our-own-championship-winning-race-car-3647-p.asp

This year I will put the boost up to where it was mapped to at 540bhp we knocked it back to 520!

As you will know boost comes on so softly and low, it even lets me win races in the wet :)

And the Turbo is built for me in the UK

Nope never forgot it
Just thought it was the closest kept secret in MRC history lol
I never knew it was available .....
the reason for going IWG was the fabrication and little room available for the wastegate amd blow off valve to fit and return to the exhaust to keep the noise down
I must look into this
How's your set up Clive ?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2021, 10:51:52 AM

Clive turbo is the new sparkly spangled version of mine prety much. Billet forged milled wheel, and possibly with the super core they do

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 31, 2021, 11:08:43 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on January 31, 2021, 10:51:52 AM
Clive turbo is the new sparkly spangled version of mine prety much. Billet forged milled wheel, and possibly with the super core they do

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Thanks for that grant

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 01:45:31 PM

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How's your set up Clive ?

If you look at the picture, you can see the 60mm Tiel wastegate I use to control the thing,
No Boost creep going on here ;)

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 31, 2021, 01:53:54 PM

Quote from: clive on January 31, 2021, 01:45:31 PM
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How's your set up Clive ?

If you look at the picture, you can see the 60mm Tiel wastegate I use to control the thing,
No Boost creep going on here ;)

Thanks Clive , much appreciated
Yes I can see it now , please excuse my lack of knowledge .
So , you have a 2into one Y effect t piece from manifold pipes into that then it just goes straight out under the car to atmosphere ? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210131/b93ccc93c03063168941ae4d7cbd49d9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 02:11:27 PM

I will show you a picture in a couple of weeks with the exhaust back on.

100% you never use a screamer pipe on track because when the wastegate opens it makes the same noise as a car without a silencer i.e. Very Loud

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 31, 2021, 02:18:16 PM

Quote from: clive on January 31, 2021, 02:11:27 PM
I will show you a picture in a couple of weeks with the exhaust back on.

100% you never use a screamer pipe on track because when the wastegate opens it makes the same noise as a car without a silencer i.e. Very Loud

Ok thanks
I take it it's plumbed back into the exhaust system then ?
I did wonder how you'd have got by noise meters
Cheers
Wayne

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on January 31, 2021, 04:49:19 PM

Yes plumbed back in, about half way down the car.

Most people plumb them back in almost immediately but I remember on James Wildays long gone 800 BHP drag car, an 40 extra BHP was found just by plumbing the boost pipe further down the car.

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on January 31, 2021, 06:55:48 PM

Quote from: clive on January 31, 2021, 04:49:19 PM
Yes plumbed back in, about half way down the car.

Most people plumb them back in almost immediately but I remember on James Wildays long gone 800 BHP drag car, an 40 extra BHP was found just by plumbing the boost pipe further down the car.

Ok I understand
I have seen some RX7 where they connect right at the back
Then I I need to factor in wastgate , engineering and cost of pipe etc
Thanks

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 07:21:06 PM

Donor car is back in
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Still not sure to do about the turbo
Clives type
Wait for the 8474 another 8 weeks or get the 8374 which is in stock
Really not sure
I'm meantime need to sort the intercooler out - V mount
I have enough room for 500 wide - 300 deep so thinking at least 85 mm thickness or more
Is there a capacity guide I should be looking for ?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 07:31:59 PM

Is the wait on the turbo holding you up and when are you wanting to get the car done by?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 07:35:02 PM

Are you getting rid of all that wiring in the engine bay? Gives you plenty more room if you do

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 07:37:53 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 07:31:59 PM
Is the wait on the turbo holding you up and when are you wanting to get the car done by?

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Not really
I can borrow Pete's turbo to push on with the manifold alterations
Probabaly going to get the Engines stripped down just to check they are all good before I fit it properly ....../
Got loads to do to it
Need to push on in an orderly fashion
Air cooling
Water system
Fuel system
Wiring
And probably loads more
Would like to see it turning over this year if not running

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 07:39:08 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 07:35:02 PM
Are you getting rid of all that wiring in the engine bay? Gives you plenty more room if you do

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Proabaly not
Could possibly re route the Ecu from the left hand side

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 07:44:15 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 07:39:08 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 07:35:02 PM
Are you getting rid of all that wiring in the engine bay? Gives you plenty more room if you do

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Proabaly not
Could possibly re route the Ecu from the left hand side

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Is it a race car or road car?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 07:48:34 PM

If you can borrow a turbo then do that and wait for the turbo you want or you will regret not getting it.

I kind of wish I had got a bigger turbo years ago when I bought mine but at the time I didn't know as much, even though I only know a little bit more now than I did then.

Fun fact,, I found out the other day that a lad that drag raced an rx7 was putting down 1100hp to the hubs with a 90mm turbo... So I know what I need to achieve close to that now etc

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 08:06:50 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 07:48:34 PM
If you can borrow a turbo then do that and wait for the turbo you want or you will regret not getting it.

I kind of wish I had got a bigger turbo years ago when I bought mine but at the time I didn't know as much, even though I only know a little bit more now than I did then.

Fun fact,, I found out the other day that a lad that drag raced an rx7 was putting down 1100hp to the hubs with a 90mm turbo... So I know what I need to achieve close to that now etc

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Bloody hell
That's big power
Don't forget , I got a huge snail here I'll need to move on

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 08:57:43 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 08:06:50 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 07:48:34 PM
If you can borrow a turbo then do that and wait for the turbo you want or you will regret not getting it.

I kind of wish I had got a bigger turbo years ago when I bought mine but at the time I didn't know as much, even though I only know a little bit more now than I did then.

Fun fact,, I found out the other day that a lad that drag raced an rx7 was putting down 1100hp to the hubs with a 90mm turbo... So I know what I need to achieve close to that now etc

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Bloody hell
That's big power
Don't forget , I got a huge snail here I'll need to move on

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Yeh I know. Still well away from needing another turbo. I should be spending money on bits I need right now lol. I bought those plates and rotors when I should have realistically bought some suspension or a roll cage with that money

or the other 6 injectors I need lol

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 09:30:51 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 08:57:43 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 08:06:50 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 07:48:34 PM
If you can borrow a turbo then do that and wait for the turbo you want or you will regret not getting it.

I kind of wish I had got a bigger turbo years ago when I bought mine but at the time I didn't know as much, even though I only know a little bit more now than I did then.

Fun fact,, I found out the other day that a lad that drag raced an rx7 was putting down 1100hp to the hubs with a 90mm turbo... So I know what I need to achieve close to that now etc

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Bloody hell
That's big power
Don't forget , I got a huge snail here I'll need to move on

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Yeh I know. Still well away from needing another turbo. I should be spending money on bits I need right now lol. I bought those plates and rotors when I should have realistically bought some suspension or a roll cage with that money or the other 6 injectors I need lol

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 09:55:26 PM

Cheers. Will pass on them at the moment, either going to get them off ebay or from JBR as he sells them with the extension I need plus the plug and pins needed. Works out cheap from australia too.

All that gear I ordered from JBR and I didn't pay any import duty or tax.... Hmm wonder how that happened

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 10:16:39 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 09:55:26 PM
Cheers. Will pass on them at the moment, either going to get them off ebay or from JBR as he sells them with the extension I need plus the plug and pins needed. Works out cheap from australia too.

All that gear I ordered from JBR and I didn't pay any import duty or tax.... Hmm wonder how that happened

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Orrrrrrrrr
Tw*t lol
But please feel free to tell how you got Around the import tax

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 10:20:38 PM

Well it only cost 950 aussy dollars... (actually over 6k) Carries a risk but it arrived within 3 days, best delivery cost me about 150 dollars

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 07, 2021, 10:16:54 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 07:21:06 PM
Donor car is back in
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/777ab76b4c4b6ecce9816689d4385b0a.jpg)
Still not sure to do about the turbo
Clives type
Wait for the 8474 another 8 weeks or get the 8374 which is in stock
Really not sure
I'm meantime need to sort the intercooler out - V mount
I have enough room for 500 wide - 300 deep so thinking at least 85 mm thickness or more
Is there a capacity guide I should be looking for ?

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https://www.mazdarotaryparts.com/mazda-rx8--rx7fd-mishimoto-intercooler-r-line-black-series-2320-p.asp

Make room for this to fit?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 08, 2021, 08:34:36 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 07, 2021, 10:16:54 PM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 06, 2021, 07:21:06 PM
Donor car is back in
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210206/777ab76b4c4b6ecce9816689d4385b0a.jpg)
Still not sure to do about the turbo
Clives type
Wait for the 8474 another 8 weeks or get the 8374 which is in stock
Really not sure
I'm meantime need to sort the intercooler out - V mount
I have enough room for 500 wide - 300 deep so thinking at least 85 mm thickness or more
Is there a capacity guide I should be looking for ?

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https://www.mazdarotaryparts.com/mazda-rx8--rx7fd-mishimoto-intercooler-r-line-black-series-2320-p.asp

Make room for this to fit?

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Bit too big that
Looking at 590 mm wide to sit in a position for the V mount

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 06:58:30 PM

Get this turbo, bargain lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210213/b13c2f66f368263542470f808fad22a8.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 13, 2021, 07:37:12 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 06, 2021, 10:20:38 PM
Well it only cost 950 aussy dollars... (actually over 6k) Carries a risk but it arrived within 3 days, best delivery cost me about 150 dollars

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Ha ha
Having seen their manifolds I wouldn't bother
A grand for 2 pipes with a Flange
Having read up , the 91** is a bit big too .
Thanks for the heads up
I found someone who can make my intercooler
Just need to get my manifold changed/ adapted over the next 3 weeks and we should be on it

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 07:39:03 PM

Just checked the website, its not a top dog turbo either, only makes 550 rwhp at 25 psi lol.

So long as you use a good quality core for your IC then it will work well

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Title: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 13, 2021, 09:36:59 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 07:39:03 PM
Just checked the website, its not a top dog turbo either, only makes 550 rwhp at 25 psi lol.

So long as you use a good quality core for your IC then it will work well

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Yep
It's good for 1500 hp
Ain't cheap buy will fit lovely
Think core / IC size is or 420x320x120

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 09:52:21 PM

120mm thick?
Know that an intercooler can be too thick sometimes, as impedes air flow through it bit there's plenty things to do to make the air go through it properly though.

Vibrant do cores you can buy to make your own IC, few other companies do also.

Intercooling defo where you can make or break achieving hp. Getting that air density back after its been heated up by the turbo is key

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 13, 2021, 09:56:38 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 09:52:21 PM
120mm thick?
Know that an intercooler can be too thick sometimes, as impedes air flow through it bit there's plenty things to do to make the air go through it properly though.

Vibrant do cores you can buy to make your own IC, few other companies do also.

Intercooling defo where you can make or break achieving hp. Getting that air density back after its been heated up by the turbo is key

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Grant I shall quote you on that when I'm ready to have it made .
It's made to measure
BMR is who I've have contact with
If I need less , cheaper it will be
Thanks for the advice buddy

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on February 13, 2021, 09:59:14 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 09:52:21 PM
120mm thick?
Know that an intercooler can be too thick sometimes, as impedes air flow through it bit there's plenty things to do to make the air go through it properly though.

Vibrant do cores you can buy to make your own IC, few other companies do also.

Intercooling defo where you can make or break achieving hp. Getting that air density back after its been heated up by the turbo is key

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Me other thing
There's a guy around half hour for me selling FC engine with alleged new housings for 2k on Facebook

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 10:16:46 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 13, 2021, 09:56:38 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 09:52:21 PM
120mm thick?
Know that an intercooler can be too thick sometimes, as impedes air flow through it bit there's plenty things to do to make the air go through it properly though.

Vibrant do cores you can buy to make your own IC, few other companies do also.

Intercooling defo where you can make or break achieving hp. Getting that air density back after its been heated up by the turbo is key

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Grant I shall quote you on that when I'm ready to have it made .
It's made to measure
BMR is who I've have contact with
If I need less , cheaper it will be
Thanks for the advice buddy

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If they say it's good for that then they know best

easiest way iv always thought of checking how good an intercooler works if you don't have a billion sensors is those stick on thermometers, like they use to give you at school.

I used to work for a company who's owner, Lawrence tomlinson, owns ginetta race cars, well I was having a good look around one of the LMP cars, this was about 15 years ago, and I noticed that on the huge brakes they ran they had those same stick on thermometers. I asked why they used them and they said it was a simple and cheap way to monitor brake temps when the car pitted. Lol. Good enough for a 250k car then good enough for us poor peolle

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 10:18:48 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on February 13, 2021, 09:59:14 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on February 13, 2021, 09:52:21 PM
120mm thick?
Know that an intercooler can be too thick sometimes, as impedes air flow through it bit there's plenty things to do to make the air go through it properly though.

Vibrant do cores you can buy to make your own IC, few other companies do also.

Intercooling defo where you can make or break achieving hp. Getting that air density back after its been heated up by the turbo is key

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Me other thing
There's a guy around half hour for me selling FC engine with alleged new housings for 2k on Facebook

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I'm in no need for parts right now, currently trying to summise whether I finish the mx5 or take the money required to get the car perfect and buy a fully built chassis. Just waiting on a reply from a friend that has just the thing lol

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 09, 2021, 06:23:59 PM

Dropped it up for the manifold and downpipe fabrication last night
Great fun towing a car on an AA tow bar at 7pm when it's dark with no loom or brake pipes .
Took a beer with me
Missies asked why , my reply
Well it'll either be to celebrate we made it or my last before I get locked up lol
Lucky it's only a mile away ....
made it there
Good bit of kit the AA bar , he was able to push me back up his street in reverse too
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I've been lucky enough to borrow Pete's manifold and turbo so I can adapt mine and to get a snug fit for down pipe too .
Once it's done I should be able to order the Intercooler
By then. I may have my own turbo
Thankfully a bit of progress

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on March 10, 2021, 07:34:10 AM

Thats a quite a big turbo

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2021, 08:08:12 AM

Progress

quite interesting where the turbos end up having to sit in an rx8 with all the stuff they have in the engine bay

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 10, 2021, 09:07:10 AM

Quote from: re japi on March 10, 2021, 07:34:10 AM
Thats a quite a big turbo

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Yeah it's the Borg Warner 8374 IWG

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: re japi on March 10, 2021, 09:08:27 AM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 10, 2021, 09:07:10 AM
Quote from: re japi on March 10, 2021, 07:34:10 AM
Thats a quite a big turbo

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Yeah it's the Borg Warner 8374 IWG

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 10, 2021, 09:09:09 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2021, 08:08:12 AM
Progress quite interesting where the turbos end up having to sit in an rx8 with all the stuff they have in the engine bay

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We've just copied the turbo source header and it's location
Should sit ok with minimum pipe work to the IC once we turn the turbo

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 10, 2021, 09:10:03 AM

Quote from: re japi on March 10, 2021, 09:08:27 AM
Quote from: Mr Spiller on March 10, 2021, 09:07:10 AM
Quote from: re japi on March 10, 2021, 07:34:10 AM
Thats a quite a big turbo

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Yeah it's the Borg Warner 8374 IWG

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It's heavier than the original large one I had

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2021, 01:08:09 PM

I take it the alternator doesn't fit in stock location? Did we talk about this before?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on March 10, 2021, 03:08:05 PM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on March 10, 2021, 01:08:09 PM
I take it the alternator doesn't fit in stock location? Did we talk about this before?

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Yeah the alternator will sit down on the right hand side between chassis left and engine
Having reviewed
My turbo will sit around 2 inches higher than the photo I added
Need to start working / or copying photos for coils etc before I get too excited

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 04, 2021, 09:38:38 PM

Turbo is expected end of next week
In the meantime have fitted the external kill / switch / button
Switch is a lovely velocity red too .....
Think I'll need a white vinyl circle around it with the appropriate stickering for it
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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on April 05, 2021, 10:45:06 PM

Does that go to a relay/contactor to cut the main feed?

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 06, 2021, 07:42:07 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on April 05, 2021, 10:45:06 PM
Does that go to a relay/contactor to cut the main feed?

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Yep it's a full
Armtech kit

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 18, 2021, 12:30:53 PM

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New stoppers to see if I can catch those pesky boosted MX5's at thruxton tomorrow

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2021, 12:40:57 PM

And Bmws and kitcars lol...how many black flags you going for this time lol

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 18, 2021, 12:53:27 PM

Quote from: boosted on April 18, 2021, 12:40:57 PM
And Bmws and kitcars lol...how many black flags you going for this time lol

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Black flags

None hopefully

Can never pass a kit car they seem to pit quickly

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on April 18, 2021, 01:08:30 PM

Yep the black 1. Its now orange ...few £££ spent widetrack.
Yellow 1 nothing been done.
Black civic nothing been done.
Orange Bmw... lots of lightening and btcc slicks.
Mine ..lots no power hike but better brakes and aero and lightning...but experimental tyres...c u tomoz.

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 18, 2021, 01:25:52 PM

Quote from: boosted on April 18, 2021, 01:08:30 PM
Yep the black 1. Its now orange ...few £££ spent widetrack.
Yellow 1 nothing been done.
Black civic nothing been done.
Orange Bmw... lots of lightening and btcc slicks.
Mine ..lots no power hike but better brakes and aero and lightning...but experimental tyres...c u tomoz.

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Sounds fab
See you tomorrow

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Jamie R on April 19, 2021, 10:32:11 AM

Have fun guys

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on April 21, 2021, 07:57:00 AM

Awesome Day but still not quick enough... Waynes got me and my mates bmw too. But got the measure of everything else accept a 12yr old in a race Ginnetta. Very motivated for more improvements. Splitter redesign first.
I still dont know how you do it with your low hp Wayne

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on April 21, 2021, 09:21:47 AM

Pleased you all had a good day.
Jon I bet the answer to your question is RX-8 corner speed, which is why I'm always searching for more grip ;)

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on April 21, 2021, 09:28:37 AM

Yep there both running 265 35 18 dunlop btcc slicks..impossible to get them to fit an na Mx5..lol

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 21, 2021, 09:32:54 AM

Yep tyres make a huge difference

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Casey on April 21, 2021, 11:23:16 AM

Glad to hear you guys had a good day - weather looked to be great too.

Car looking great in that pic Jon :icon_thumleft:

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on April 21, 2021, 11:45:28 AM

Shes fast Casey.. broke into the 1.28s x4.. just need a little bit more to give Wayne some sport.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210421/1e327bad96dfeffc72b4c022caab498c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 21, 2021, 02:54:57 PM

Quote from: boosted on April 21, 2021, 11:45:28 AM
Shes fast Casey.. broke into the 1.28s x4.. just need a little bit more to give Wayne some sport.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210421/1e327bad96dfeffc72b4c022caab498c.jpg)

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Jon
Considering it's only a years worth of seat time in the 5 .
I think you've squeezed loads of time from it
Your all over me
I was only consistent 128-129 's

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 21, 2021, 04:29:51 PM

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Casey on April 22, 2021, 09:14:41 AM

Looking good Wayne! Quite a lot of body roll there ;)

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on April 22, 2021, 10:23:37 AM

Quote from: Casey on April 22, 2021, 09:14:41 AM
Looking good Wayne! Quite a lot of body roll there ;)

Yeah I run it quite soft
Like it to dig in lol
Looks steady on the faster corners

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on April 22, 2021, 08:57:19 PM

Quote from: Mr Spiller on April 22, 2021, 10:23:37 AM
Quote from: Casey on April 22, 2021, 09:14:41 AM
Looking good Wayne! Quite a lot of body roll there ;)
Yeah I run it quite soft
Like it to dig in lol
Looks steady on the faster corners

Coudnt cope with that, i'd get sea sick half way through a race :)) :))

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 17, 2021, 09:23:28 PM

Good day at Pembrey track day Saturday just gone
Had to put a donor engine in as 6900 track day miles seems to have knocked the compression down to 4.8 all around
Time for a rebuild
Looking forward to meeting the the Wiltshire duo down there in a few weeks
All loaded for donington park for Wednesday

Plenty of vids on ewe tube if you fancy a look

Here's one , car was epic

https://youtu.be/bT7MWCSea3E

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on May 17, 2021, 10:00:50 PM

6 of us wilts Yocals

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 17, 2021, 10:22:31 PM

Quote from: boosted on May 17, 2021, 10:00:50 PM
6 of us wilts Yocals

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Oh oh Wiltshire wild ones

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 23, 2021, 10:42:56 AM

Had a reasonable day at donington park
Car went into limp mode twice and broke down once
Break down was due to the coil harness earthing out the front engine lifting point
Fixed that ( thanks big Pete )
Hoping the limp mode was the omp , so swapped that over now from my old engine .
First tome being towed into the pits
The shame .........
It's defo a walk of shame
Race car 116 BMW's were a slight pain
Nevertheless , when the car was running it was brilliant
Big balls to keep it flat down the hill but managed it just fine

https://youtu.be/FX_CC5XgeAE

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 23, 2021, 10:43:35 AM

Oh yeah
And my turbo's finally turned up

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 23, 2021, 11:40:53 AM

Awesome, now you can make a bit of progress

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on May 23, 2021, 11:43:00 AM

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse on May 23, 2021, 11:40:53 AM
Awesome, now you can make a bit of progress

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Yep
It's need to get Owen the welder on it a bit sharpish
He's already done Pete's just not mine

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on May 23, 2021, 04:45:51 PM

The bloke that said he would come and make my manifold has just gone back to Australia because his dad is unwell unfortunately.

There's plenty I can get on with though. Iv messed about with the engine mounts this weekend so can try get other bits done until his return I hope

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 24, 2021, 03:31:33 PM

5 months later and it's home
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He also lowered the seating position in my race car
Will start a separate thread for that (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211024/4f5cadc14f183f62dd30f63bbb0132e3.jpg)

Time to design an intercooler now
L
Not sure whether to have one side in one side out or both in and out on same side

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on October 24, 2021, 05:03:16 PM

Oh my days....dont think the turbos big enough

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: Mr Spiller on October 24, 2021, 05:21:40 PM

Quote from: boosted on October 24, 2021, 05:03:16 PM
Oh my days....dont think the turbos big enough

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Um
Yeah
Just about
Need it to keep up
With them pesky Eunos's

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Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: QUADroach on November 22, 2021, 01:16:41 AM

nice fabrication work in the photos

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: clive on November 22, 2021, 08:49:16 AM

Getting there, well done.

Title: Re: Wayne's boosted 8 project
Post by: boosted on December 26, 2021, 07:24:58 PM

Here it is Wayne

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