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Title: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 08, 2019, 09:48:41 AM
So, this is not rotary related, but I thought I could use my contacts...

So, Ford Fiesta 1,6 16v SPORT year 2000. Wanted parts:
-gearbox, with 4,25 final ratio
-front bumper

So I need favor for my UK friends. Can you please check your scrapyards if they have these parts on sale? And price?

Much appreciated!!!
Cheers

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 08, 2019, 10:14:25 AM
Sent you a pm is gearbox a 97WT7002YE

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 08, 2019, 11:20:20 AM
Fast research, unit is Getrag Ford IB5
Identify tag should be V83WT

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 08, 2019, 11:40:04 AM
Ok ill hve a search as got plenty of time on my hands

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 08, 2019, 03:56:48 PM
Thanks mate, much appreciated

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 08, 2019, 04:07:12 PM
Oh, reason for this, I might as well tell it now...

In summer I desided that I wont be in rallycross service in season 2020. I wanted year off. However, in same time, massive racing fever hitted me. Cant figure that out, Im over 40 and never wanted to race...

For several months now, I have been doing research, studying, asking and so on, about different cars in one Class...

So, today I got Group V1600 Ford Fiesta 1.6 16v Sport... Yeah, I know, I hate Fords. However this time, heart came second and I made reasonable and smart choise Plan is to race in Rallycross in that V1600 class in our national series...

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 08, 2019, 04:10:31 PM
Cool..ill be having a good look for parts tomoz...family round today.

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: clive on December 08, 2019, 04:20:37 PM
Good luck Jarno.
I understand as I have raced many different cars over  the years.
Keep us posted with the project, because like I said, we are always interested in other things our Rotary owners are doing. 
Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 08, 2019, 04:27:01 PM
Thanks guys...

But its a Ford...

This car raced in tarmac rally sprints in this season. Tallented young guy, I think he is 17 years old, won juniors cup with it...

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2019, 10:25:25 AM
Anymore numbers mate?
Is the car a zetec s?
Finding boxes but nothing with those numbers.

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2019, 11:54:08 AM
Yes, car is zetec s. Most important thing is that final ration is 4.25. There is much these same boxes in different variations. Like Puma has 4.27. I reckon I could use that too. But in this class rules say that it needs to be cars own box, identical, no mods allowed...

Cant find any info. And asked from few friends, they dont know either...

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2019, 12:09:52 PM
Does this help? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191209/ae1a2d518f2a122693acaf9f2e786900.jpg)

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2019, 12:12:58 PM
Cool. Search continues

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2019, 12:30:09 PM
And there she is (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191209/c489c5489cab570123f443e3c2682bac.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191209/5f103475b1ec03dcece2edd6bcbb1604.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191209/c010fe16ff584fe5053cf7463986802b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191209/6d4924d8443220e634d211def6f6e108.jpg)

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2019, 12:31:33 PM
Nice i like it...

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2019, 12:32:22 PM
I love the old style afr gauge...cant go wrong with that.

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2019, 12:37:13 PM
Sent you 1....fc instead of fb...i dont know....

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 09, 2019, 02:27:25 PM
Thanks mate.

Im not sure what that means. I reckon that it will tell that final drive ration. I have to do some research

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 09, 2019, 04:00:40 PM
Ill have another look and google tomoz.
When i needed a coltie gearbox (1 of 11 left) i spent about a week searching ended up downloading mitsubishi gearbox pdf that explained all the numbers and yes the final drive ratio was part of the code..
And i was able to buy a Proton persona gearbox with the identical final drive ( fast acceleration). We will endeavour to find 1.

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 10, 2019, 06:38:30 PM
I have tryed to find meaning for those numbers. One dude said that all off those are Fords parts codes but didnt find meaning for FA, FB, FC...

Search continues...

But I reckon I need few those boxes if there is. And front bumbers too

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 10, 2019, 06:40:44 PM
I forgot today..  will continue tomoz.

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 11, 2019, 06:02:53 AM
No problem mate, not in a hurry.  :great:
Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 11, 2019, 06:08:43 AM
Another go today.

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 11, 2019, 04:25:34 PM
I may have found you 1 Jarno...from a Ford Breaker...im just checking he will send to Finland.

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 11, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
This direct quote from Ford specialist breaker...and willing to stick on a pallet to Finland...( no front bumper though).


The very last letter of the part number just refers to a later version / manufacture date of that part.

YS6R-7002FA, YS6R-7002FB, YS6R-7002FC are all the same gearbox, there is no difference in drive between them.
1.6s zetec mk5 Fiesta gearbox.

Whatya reckon....? Box is 50 quid...

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 12, 2019, 06:24:47 AM
Umm... Weird. I might be looking at wrong code then. Cause some code in that box should tell what it has inside...

Is that box from Sport version? Cause normal version has different final drive.

If that really is what I need, its cheap

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2019, 06:27:43 AM
I dunno mate...there are SO many different boxes...Ford couldve saved themselves millions with a standardisation program.

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 12, 2019, 06:32:18 AM
Can you get them to check somehow that finaldrive thing. Cause it they are wrong, by class rules I cant use them, and they arent worth anything to me

Reason my search is that we have those basic boxes here, but not these Sport boxes...

Can you get quote for shipping? And if that box is right one, Ill take two if they have

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2019, 06:33:36 AM
No worrys...theyve only got the 1 mind.

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 12, 2019, 09:52:38 AM
Quote from: boosted on December 12, 2019, 06:27:43 AM
I dunno mate...there are SO many different boxes...Ford couldve saved themselves millions with a standardisation program.

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Exatly mate. I have done so research and theres soooo many different variations. Basic housing is the same that they have used in many cars. But internals, this Fiesta uses 4.25 final, but Puma has 4.27, alltough all other gears are the same. Stupid Ford...

And then there is 4.20 and 4.23...
Stupid Ford...

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2019, 10:02:29 AM
Id check with the race organisers as those small diff in ratios gonna have naff all effect...esp in rallycross when the wheels are spinning most of the time anyway.

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 12, 2019, 04:08:56 PM
Well, it is not up to race organisations. Its FIA rules for that class. Basically, if I blow up this box, I cant fit similar to it, like Fokus box or normal Fiesta box. It has to be this Sport versions own box...

However, that Puma box is so near with this box, I reckon no one can tell the differense if I dont tell them...

And this box, especially this final ration is one reason I choose this car. With 4.25 its one of the fastest of the line. Fokus for example has 3,60 or something like that...

I might be to hasty with this thing, cause this box is actually quite strong. I just wanted to see if I have option to get these from UK

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: boosted on December 12, 2019, 04:12:19 PM
Ok mate...ive been out of action today.

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Title: Re: Non rotary parts needed possibly
Post by: re japi on December 13, 2019, 06:04:12 AM
Yep. Thanks for your effort mate, much appreciated.

This whole gearbox thing started to piss me off. Weird that code for that exact box cannot be found. Ill have to do more research.

Today, Ill go shopping. Racing suit and that stuff. And, was it called "a lid"? Also Hans devise...

Oh, and car has a nickname now. Its calles Blueberry

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