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Title: 787 replica?
Post by: boosted on March 09, 2017, 07:04:47 PM
anyone built a replica????

been thinking about this last couple of days....

fit a cage in an 8....remove all bodywork....fabricate 787b body over top....

not quite as easy as that but few technical issues to work out ... :violent1:

i was goona cut the roof of my 8 but off to scrappy tomoz so neighbours get a reprive... :))
Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: re japi on March 10, 2017, 06:08:30 AM
Umm, I thought that Carl has been building some kind of replica, several years now...?

I think that where you are going to use it determines what chassis is the best option. If its for track use, best option would be something like old Lola chassis, or old "little" formula. For street, well, I dont know your laws and rule, but I guess that kit car would be best option...
Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: re japi on March 10, 2017, 06:14:36 AM
Here is one example for a race use. This used to be Imp, and chassis is based on, umm, I dont know :D
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1416603548361473.1073741835.986945584660607&type=3
Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: boosted on March 10, 2017, 06:20:53 AM
I forgot about Carls...seen the chassis not quite rolling but a couple of years ago now....
Mmm just something to tick over in my brain...my kit car is front engined so proportions all wrong.

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Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: boosted on March 10, 2017, 06:23:06 AM
I really need to see 1 in the flesh to get an idea of size.

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Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: re japi on March 10, 2017, 08:49:11 AM
Yes, exactly. For a street car, its really diffucult to find chassis with same proportions. Engine and gearbox placement, driver position, and so on...

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Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: boosted on March 10, 2017, 09:45:03 AM
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjHr9yq08vSAhXlC8AKHegsBuAQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turnology.com%2Fnews%2Fthis-rad-mazda-787b-replica-was-built-for-the-24-hours-of-lemons%2F&psig=AFQjCNEVCAYpwjJ3tzg1ky-Eu9skrr3vdw&ust=1489225470003327

i found this  :sign0098:
Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: clive on March 10, 2017, 12:19:34 PM
Wow, this would be a huge undertaking plus a lot of money.

I had a good friend who was a pattern maker who made a kit for me for a mini I raced ( I'll maybe find pic later)

We did a complete body apart from the roof and even then with mates rates  donated fibreglass and other materials I put around 3K into this and this was in the early 80's, off hand I would say 20K + to make the bucks and final moulds "however"  if you made it look authentic enough, I bet it would sell all around the world . ;)   
Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: re japi on March 10, 2017, 01:33:18 PM
Cant open that link...?

Making molds is really really big job. Even if its not going to be show quality, it takes hours and hours of work. Exciting lines and curves is easy to to copy, but when you are making something new, its a huge task.

For example,  Lada VFTS has its "signature" wings (dunno English name for them) attached to its fenders. When you want to make complete part of them, so fenders and wings are same item, you have to make hours of work to get them fixed and sit right. Cause mold will copy every defect and ugly things on them.

Here is pic of that Lada. Its "evo 2 version. Back door and back wing is one big peace. Friend realized that he has to change those" redish" parts all the time so there were no reason to get them fixed to that fender. And making parts from that big complete part would have been impossible...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170310/3aec974f6356eaa8d7861ad7c8afe198.jpg)

Front fender is full peace. Even if its much smaller, it really is pain in arse to do a decent part
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170310/d39e6db6ef6ed4b7202df7f61ba2a694.jpg)

Umm, does this make any sense? :)

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Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: boosted on March 10, 2017, 01:34:41 PM
It would have tobe rotary powered as a given....
Just summit im mulling over prob wont come to anything.
Lottery win and buy the real thing lol.

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Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: boosted on March 10, 2017, 01:36:39 PM
@ Jarno...yes mate..makes sense...watched some youtube vids....by no means an expert....lol.
May get confined to pipedream file b1n in my brain....

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Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: boosted on March 10, 2017, 01:47:39 PM
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u397/boosted38/MRSRoadster001.jpg)

i did this a few years back...but was a 1 off kit i bought in the right place at the right time....car was right off brought back from the dead...mini 911...ish :P
Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: boosted on March 10, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
ok mustve watched this 1000 times but its awesome..

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi954WsjczSAhUOOsAKHfUKDBsQtwIIHDAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Daz39eqLIbyU&usg=AFQjCNFhIacdcLg1u4H1lVkkyM4ZAishfA&sig2=f9xmu-cgFrIz0NRqFDxZ3Q
Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: re japi on March 10, 2017, 04:26:14 PM
Isnt original, chassis number 003, on auction within few days? Estimated price 1,6-2,4 mil $, if I remember correctly... :D

Yes, I'm no expert either but I have been doing some classfibre things. Some molds are just fricink difficult. And the time you spent on them...

Janne, Lada owner, is quite expert on those things. But few days ago he said that he have had enough. Next car, if he builds one, has to have all classfibre part available, he wont make them anymore :D This car, he has basically done everything by him self, molds, modification, so on...

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Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: clive on March 16, 2017, 08:33:37 PM
 :) :)
Title: Re: 787 replica?
Post by: re japi on March 17, 2017, 05:04:15 AM
So, the 787B was sold 1,75mil $...

But check out this!  :P
https://www.motorsportauctions.com/category/335/World-Touring-Cars/listings/37843/Ex-Japanese-Touring-Car-Fully-Restored.html?utm_source=Facebook+Promotion&utm_medium=FB+Post&utm_campaign=Ex+Japanese+Touring+Car+Fully+Restored&utm_term=Ex+Japanese+Touring+Car+Fully+Restored&utm_content=Ex+Japanese+Touring+Car+Fully+Restored