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General => General Technical => I. C. E. & Electrical => Topic started by: mikey-t on December 26, 2014, 06:37:26 PM

Title: rotary sparky gods unite i need help
Post by: mikey-t on December 26, 2014, 06:37:26 PM
right then guys, i am in the process of doing my rebuild as most of you know.
but i have a few questions on my wiring which i appreciate i am making bloody awkward, so as simply and quickly as i can heres my problems

first things first this is my plan for my battery relocation and power loom rewire. please highlight anything i may have missed or havent thought of.

sorry for the crudity of the diagram. but it makes the point

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also on the standard loom on the positive battery post is a box of 5 fuses/relays from what i can gether these supply power and fuse things on the front horseshoe loom so things like fans and lights etc,even fuel pump  most of which i have deleted or have standalone. so do i HAVE to have this here still or is there a better method, i was thinking of a aftermarket fuse block / relay block wired in with what i need. or do i have to keep the standard stuff. again suggestions / inspiration welcome

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then there is this doozy.coils and such will be covered by the haltech but there are things the haltech doesnt cover, things like alternator charging system etc.

i have simplified this loom to this point but if anyone can fill in the gaps i have that would be awesome,
i can remake this loom also but would like to get rid of everything that is not necessary.

loom one and loom two are actually the connectors from the fuse block / diagnosis port into front horseshoe

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so any help is welcome also inspirsation, give me pictures or details of what you did, i dont want to go to the level of in cab breakers on induvidual circuits but im sure you can see the way i have been going
Title: Re: rotary sparky gods unite i need help
Post by: shaunwil on December 27, 2014, 12:21:10 PM
Has the whole of the horse-shoe loom gone completely ?

I'm not even sure where to start. Took me forever to do my wiring trying to figure everything out. I didn't have any of the original wiring at all though !

Shaun
Title: Re: rotary sparky gods unite i need help
Post by: boosted on December 27, 2014, 01:24:25 PM
Gotta agree with Shaun. Massive task to rewire car for wipers lights etc. Engine loom awesome idea for reliabilty but as you have original loom for lights switches etc i would personally reuse.
Title: Re: rotary sparky gods unite i need help
Post by: mikey-t on December 27, 2014, 06:37:40 PM
the original horseshoe loom is staying i am on about the loom that connects straight to the positive and powers the alternator / starter / coils and also has the control for these and connects to the horsehoe via the two plugs its a mini power loom with a few signal wires in there
Title: Re: rotary sparky gods unite i need help
Post by: boosted on December 27, 2014, 06:46:29 PM
Ah ok. Drawing looks fine are you going to relocate battery to boot?
Title: Re: rotary sparky gods unite i need help
Post by: shaunwil on December 27, 2014, 07:00:12 PM
I ran a long time with a positive running back to the fuse box and and the negative running back to the original point where the engine was ground. Didn't have much issues really.

Shaun
Title: Re: rotary sparky gods unite i need help
Post by: mikey-t on December 27, 2014, 09:35:41 PM
i am in two minds right now, i was going to just run +ive to the front and ground out -ive to the body in the boot.
i am also contemplating running the -ive to a busbar in the bonnet area and then running all my grounds to that. i will have to wait and see what others say, i want it to be the best possible for the road

Title: Re: rotary sparky gods unite i need help
Post by: shaunwil on December 27, 2014, 10:29:23 PM
I did that originally then felt the ground wasn't strong enough so ran it back to the original place to where the battery sat. Ran like that for about 3+yrs

There is a good ground next to the passenger door rear where quite a few things are ground (rear window de-mist is one). Easy to run a cable down from the boot.

When I measured the current on the starter the loop gauge showed a max of 370amps ! I have it running on a dedicated 4 gauge feed with a slow blow 200 amp fuse. When I had it going in to the engine bay I used x2 4 gauge cable to the fuse box.

Shaun
Title: Re: rotary sparky gods unite i need help
Post by: mikey-t on December 27, 2014, 10:40:46 PM
yeah i dont want to be running 0 gauge anywhere, i am running 4 gauge on the shorter runs and high ampage etc but +ive and -ive from battery to front i am thinking high quality 4 gauge maybe even 2 gauge for protection.

plus running 2 chunky wires back to front might be a bit space consuming, halfway down with take offs could work