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Cars by Model Type => 3rd generation RX-7's => Topic started by: YAU730 on March 09, 2014, 01:35:51 AM

Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: YAU730 on March 09, 2014, 01:35:51 AM
Has any owners on here ever wanted to Move from there RX-7 to a R34 GTR?

I kind of want to own 1 of these now n stop will prob stop spending cash on the 7 n save for 1.
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: rx-dave on March 09, 2014, 08:28:31 AM
Fantastic cars!! I\'ve had 4 of them but they are a little overpriced now IMO. A far superior car to own over an RX7, reliable~you don\'t have to constantly watch your temp~you don\'t stink of petrol fumes~reasonably good on fuel (still poor but better than an RX7)~once again reliable :cheers
The 35\'s are dropping down now but are seriously expensive to maintain!
Dave.
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 09, 2014, 12:23:25 PM
Going from an rx7 to an r34 is like going from a beautiful woman with great body shape, the perfect hour glass figure, to a fat bird!! If your into that kind of thing then yeah go for it.
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: YAU730 on March 09, 2014, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: rx-dave;875220Fantastic cars!! I\'ve had 4 of them but they are a little overpriced now IMO. A far superior car to own over an RX7, reliable~you don\'t have to constantly watch your temp~you don\'t stink of petrol fumes~reasonably good on fuel (still poor but better than an RX7)~once again reliable :cheers
The 35\'s are dropping down now but are seriously expensive to maintain!
Dave.

I heard about the mad prices on Maintaining a R35 n a friend sold it due that.

Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;875227Going from an rx7 to an r34 is like going from a beautiful woman with great body shape, the perfect hour glass figure, to a fat bird!! If your into that kind of thing then yeah go for it.

True, the RX7 just looks sexy, how would u comment a NSX to a RX7? Still have a NSX on mind to along with R34.
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 09, 2014, 12:45:32 PM
NSX  is probably the only car I would substitute for FD. Not as good as an FD looks wise but a car on my "list" that I want
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: Mir on March 09, 2014, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;875230NSX  is probably the only car I would substitute for FD. Not as good as an FD looks wise but a car on my "list" that I want

FDs for life thats all!!

but NSX can be had as a second car ;) ;)

Mir
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on March 09, 2014, 05:32:02 PM
Quote from: Mir;875253FDs for life thats all!!

but NSX can be had as a second car ;) ;)

Mir

Yep, although you do have 5 I don\'t think you could ever go elsewhere
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: Mir on March 09, 2014, 05:35:06 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;875254Yep, although you do have 5 I don\'t think you could ever go elsewhere

Neverrrrr. I love my FDs and will always do. I am on a hunt for the 6th one ;).

Mir
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: probedb on March 09, 2014, 08:59:21 PM
Quote from: rx-dave;875220Fantastic cars!! I\'ve had 4 of them but they are a little overpriced now IMO. A far superior car to own over an RX7, reliable~you don\'t have to constantly watch your temp~you don\'t stink of petrol fumes~reasonably good on fuel (still poor but better than an RX7)~once again reliable :cheers

Odd, had my FD for 8 years and never had a breakdown or failed an MOT. I guess it must be the owners ;)
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: rx-dave on March 09, 2014, 09:51:53 PM
I\'ve also had 3 NSX, the first was a manual and a great car, second an auto but that was a little disappointing and the third had been supercharged, now that was nice!!!!
I\'d still have a good exmple of an R34 GTR over the NSX though and either over an RX7. Prices of the GTR and NSX are on the up though whereas the RX7\'s are dropping so i suppose would be better value.
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: YAU730 on March 09, 2014, 11:30:06 PM
Quote from: Mir;875255Neverrrrr. I love my FDs and will always do. I am on a hunt for the 6th one ;).

Mir

:Laugh Wow!!!! 6!!!! I thou u only had 2...
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: re japi on March 10, 2014, 03:18:04 AM
Skylines are great cars. Quite reliable too. But if something brakes down, you are in big doo doo ;)
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: Carbon RX on March 10, 2014, 02:40:22 PM
FD\'s are by no means dropping in price anymore, they are going the other way now thankfully and shall only continue to do so. Ive had quite a few friends with Skylines and they ALL have had more issues with their cars than i have mine. Not to mention the cost of when it eventually does go wrong, somewhat over double than my rebuild cost!
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: turbo boy on March 10, 2014, 03:13:16 PM
in 10yrs time fd rx7s are gonna be worth a small fortune. I remember when I had my s1 rs turbo in the 90s they was worth around £3k, fast forward 15yrs and now some of `em are fetchin £15k! For a 1.6 escort turbo!
 
There`s nothing wrong with a second car as long as its cool, im in to retro bmws but love anything unusual and fast. I will always keep my fd tho.
 Would love a gtr someday... it is true tho, that gtr`s are not pretty but MEAN lookin which I also like:mmmm
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: YAU730 on March 10, 2014, 05:42:22 PM
A lot of mix comments n making me think again, FD has always been my dream car as a kid up to now.

After my accident i had on snow on the motorway made me feel paranoid when i drive it now as i did nothing n it just got spin out with a slash of snow.
I think i will continue modding my Rex n give it better traction with putting a new set of alloys n run wide tyres.

R34 Defo is going to cost a build if a Rebuilt, NSX parts are going to cost a bomb also.
Overall I\'ll keep my heart back to the RX7 ;)
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: mick choi on March 10, 2014, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: YAU730;875364A lot of mix comments n making me think again, FD has always been my dream car as a kid up to now.
 
After my accident i had on snow on the motorway made me feel paranoid when i drive it now as i did nothing n it just got spin out with a slash of snow.
I think i will continue modding my Rex n give it better traction with putting a new set of alloys n run wide tyres.
 
R34 Defo is going to cost a build if a Rebuilt, NSX parts are going to cost a bomb also.
Overall I\'ll keep my heart back to the RX7 ;)
to b honest m8 u should`nt b driving a rx7 in the snow/ice as it will slide all over the place without any notice or any rwd without traction control, snow is for 4wd cars.
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: iaint on March 10, 2014, 10:25:33 PM
Quote from: mick choi;875377to b honest m8 u should`nt b driving a rx7 in the snow/ice as it will slide all over the place without any notice or any rwd without traction control, snow is for 4wd cars.

I drove my FD up Devil\'s Dyke in Feb many years back - got halfway up and found it was snow and ice...  Eagle F1s on it and getting to the top was interesting but perfectly doable with some care.

Coming back down was damn scary.

Set of decent winter tyres and a very sensible right foot and respect of speed and it\'d be possible to survive a winter in an FD without issue.
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: samoht on March 10, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: YAU730;875364After my accident i had on snow on the motorway made me feel paranoid when i drive it now as i did nothing n it just got spin out with a slash of snow.
I think i will continue modding my Rex n give it better traction with putting a new set of alloys n run wide tyres.

I totally understand your feeling worried after the bump you had on the motorway.

The thing is, the wide tyres are the problem, going wider will make it worse.  The wider they are, the more they \'surf\' over the water or slush on the road.  Narrow tyres are much better in bad weather, will cut through the water to grip on the road.  If you hit standing water or slush at 70mph on wide, performance summer tyres, you\'re going to lose grip, 4wd or not.

It\'s a compromise, like many things.  A heavy car on narrow tyres will be better in bad weather, but a light car on wide ones will have more grip on a dry road.

If you\'re worried, I would get a set of narrower wheels with some all-season or winter tyres, and keep them on from November through to March.
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: samoht on March 10, 2014, 10:52:27 PM
Link for wider tyres and aquaplaning: http://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyre-article/tyre-width-wider-or-narrower-tyres

     Tyre width conclusions
      The advantages of wider tyres:The advantages of narrower tyres:
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: samoht on March 10, 2014, 11:35:23 PM
As far as the original question goes:
RX-7 1280kg 50/50 front:rear
R34 1560kg 55/45 front:rear
plus the RX-7 carries its weight lower and more centrally.

To me, a sports car is a car that is small, light and powerful.
 The Skyline scores one out of three on this test; the RX-7 gets full marks.
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: YAU730 on March 11, 2014, 12:03:18 AM
Quote from: mick choi;875377to b honest m8 u should`nt b driving a rx7 in the snow/ice as it will slide all over the place without any notice or any rwd without traction control, snow is for 4wd cars.

I was waiting months for my T51R build to finish n just in that time was fine back up from WGT till it started snowing, my hands was sweating behind the wheel as i was all over the place n was at slow line but once it hit that slush then it went. Some people still don\'t believe me n think its because i drive to fast that i cos it but they don\'t seem to understand which annoys me.

Quote from: samoht;875379I totally understand your feeling worried after the bump you had on the motorway.

The thing is, the wide tyres are the problem, going wider will make it worse.  The wider they are, the more they \'surf\' over the water or slush on the road.  Narrow tyres are much better in bad weather, will cut through the water to grip on the road.  If you hit standing water or slush at 70mph on wide, performance summer tyres, you\'re going to lose grip, 4wd or not.

It\'s a compromise, like many things.  A heavy car on narrow tyres will be better in bad weather, but a light car on wide ones will have more grip on a dry road.

If you\'re worried, I would get a set of narrower wheels with some all-season or winter tyres, and keep them on from November through to March.

Thanks for info, i actually thou the more wider the tyres are then the more traction u will get.
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: re japi on March 11, 2014, 04:38:14 AM
I fully agree with Samoth. I dont know what kind of winter tyres you guys have there, but they make a BIG differense...

Dunno about FD, but FB is very good at snow. Maybe one of the best rearwheel drive I have ever driven in snow. And when you think about age of that car...

Skylines (I have heard) are a bit handfull in snow. My work mate´s son had 550ps r33. He used it every day for a 1,5 years. He had to drop boost to 0, just because he was losing so many rear bumbers ;)
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: probedb on March 11, 2014, 03:27:14 PM
Quote from: mick choi;875377to b honest m8 u should`nt b driving a rx7 in the snow/ice as it will slide all over the place without any notice or any rwd without traction control, snow is for 4wd cars.

I guess I shouldn\'t have been doing it on summer tyres for years then :2Rolleyes

Only issue I ever had was black ice and most cars are not happy on that.

I\'ve since started using winter tyres and they\'re awesome. Although some all-season tyres are fine.
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: re japi on March 11, 2014, 08:07:31 PM
Michelin and Nokia winter tyres are good. Others are crap... ;)
Title: Move to a R34 GTR?
Post by: mick choi on March 11, 2014, 08:55:34 PM
Quote from: YAU730;875382I was waiting months for my T51R build to finish n just in that time was fine back up from WGT till it started snowing, my hands was sweating behind the wheel as i was all over the place n was at slow line but once it hit that slush then it went. Some people still don\'t believe me n think its because i drive to fast that i cos it but they don\'t seem to understand which annoys me.
 
 
 
Thanks for info, i actually thou the more wider the tyres are then the more traction u will get.
I ONCE WENT AROUND A ROUNDABOUT @ 20MPH & IT WENT SIDEWAYS ON A  SLIGHTLY FROSTY RD WHICH IS NO WAY AS SLIPPERY AS SNOW/ICE!