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Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 02:09:47 PM
Thought I will start my project thread , as it all looks good for 2014.

Spec will be Oldone Racing Semi PP engine
Oldone Lightened and Clearenced Rotors
Oldone Ported Side Plates
Balanced Assembly
SCR 2 piece Seals
Projay Typhoon Intakes
BW475 on a T6 Housing
4 Inch Exhaust
Motec M2R
OS Giken Tripple plate Clutch
Trust Dog gearbox
Power Goal 800-900bhp

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Timmy Giving advice

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Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Mir on November 22, 2013, 02:18:28 PM
I am soon going to order the same Pro jay kit ;). Best of luck with the build matey :).

Mir
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 02:21:20 PM
Yeah they do really good stuff, good quality
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 02:32:27 PM
Oooh that\'s just porn!! Show me your box!!
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 02:32:38 PM
No nitrous?
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 02:36:48 PM
No need for it on a manual box methinks, I am configuring the Motec to run 2 step, that should be enough, box is in bits, waiting for it to be built up, should be with me in February.
I would go Nitrous if looking to run sub 8.5, aim is to be in the 8.8 to 9 range
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 03:41:45 PM
I see the pports aren\'t opened up? Are they going to be flat bottomed and with a radiiiiii too like the outline on the picture? Endurance shape pp. OR are you going to have a square shaped port? Peak hp deal?

Be good to see you back out there, 800-900 hp should hopefully get the wheels up betterer:D
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 03:42:32 PM
How do you do the 2step? Cutting ignition at certain rpm?
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;867972I see the pports aren\'t opened up? Are they going to be flat bottomed and with a radiiiiii too like the outline on the picture? Endurance shape pp. OR are you going to have a square shaped port? Peak hp deal?

Be good to see you back out there, 800-900 hp should hopefully get the wheels up betterer:D

Yeh they will be D shaped :D
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 03:44:43 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;867973How do you do the 2step? Cutting ignition at certain rpm?

Yes correct, the Motec allows a secondary rev limit being activated by a switch
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: shaunwil on November 22, 2013, 03:47:24 PM
Looks very nice :D

Shaun
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;867977Yes correct, the Motec allows a secondary rev limit being activated by a switch

Have you thought of using methanol? It is after all "race fuel"
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 04:07:39 PM
Well you cant for the Street Class I believe use Meth, plus no where near the limits for Race Fuel and WI yet
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 04:42:49 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;867983Well you cant for the Street Class I believe use Meth, plus no where near the limits for Race Fuel and WI yet

It\'s so much cheaper though. Be worth asking if you can race with methanol
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 04:46:55 PM
na , its gonna be run on the street anyway
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Will66 on November 22, 2013, 04:48:32 PM
Will you be running WI?
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 04:53:00 PM
What side port combo?
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 04:53:58 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;867986na , its gonna be run on the street anyway

Like:) gonna drive it too events?
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 05:04:28 PM
Quote from: Will66;867987Will you be running WI?

yes pre turbo:yes
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;867988What side port combo?

bridge of course LOL :spank
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;867989Like:) gonna drive it too events?

I will for test RWYB events on low boost
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 05:43:45 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;867991bridge of course LOL :spank

So your using your current plates? I just thought maybe that you might have tried a different combo. Street the primaries bridge the secondaries.

What sort of psi are you looking to run to hit 800? 35 ish?
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 22, 2013, 05:53:36 PM
nope, using virgin plates, Era has developed completely new Bridgeports, angles,speeding up the flow, very effective on Scotts new build.
Go big or go home, Streetport primaries na wtf for??? haha

It wont need 35psi to hit 800s, most probably 28psi I reckon
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 22, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
Lol. How much more port area will you have than exhaust?
Overlap should throw enough fuel at the turbo to get some better spool up on your turbs
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: re japi on November 23, 2013, 04:41:12 AM
Awesome 8)
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: exiled-viking on November 23, 2013, 03:55:19 PM
stunning just stunning :Thumbs-up
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 25, 2013, 10:32:27 AM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;867996Lol. How much more port area will you have than exhaust?
Overlap should throw enough fuel at the turbo to get some better spool up on your turbs

there will be overlap, how much Era knows, but it should spool up nicely on the line
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Prof on November 25, 2013, 10:59:23 AM
Are you having the PP\'s staged for higher boost/throttle settings only, or are they \'on\' all the time ?  I love the idea of this - looks like another impressive build :-)
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 25, 2013, 11:13:19 AM
On all the time, there is no internal butterflies within the manifold Prof
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Prof on November 25, 2013, 02:19:21 PM
Be interesting to see what fuel economy is like with this setup - for road use (I don\'t suppose any of us care about fuel usage on the track :) )
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on November 25, 2013, 04:05:34 PM
moving on quick time...nice one mark!!!
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 25, 2013, 04:12:21 PM
Quote from: Ed_RX7parts;868076moving on quick time...nice one mark!!!

Cheers Ed, I am still waiting on your video of your Semi PP beast, I need to hear the noise!!
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on November 25, 2013, 04:21:29 PM
gimme a couple of days ...i\'ll try and load it up tomorrow if possible
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 25, 2013, 04:25:12 PM
nice bring the "Semi PP Noise"!!!, you still running custom Semi PP manifold or gone Projay?
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on November 25, 2013, 04:40:25 PM
c\'mon...its me....you know its custom baby!!!!!


check this ...almost your sister car

http://www.garaget.org/?car=57071 (http://www.garaget.org/?car=57071)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgVXTO2F95I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgVXTO2F95I)
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 25, 2013, 04:46:31 PM
yeah I did see his build, very similar, he made 829 rwhp at 30 psi :D, although I will be looking to do a cleaner rad install, the only thing that lets down his build
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on November 25, 2013, 04:49:39 PM
plus he was on e85 dont forget

i know that rad let the side down!!!!!
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: re japi on November 25, 2013, 05:16:52 PM
They are Swedes... Interesting... Im not sure, but I think that those same guys are building 4rotor Volvo 142! 8) Check Facebook, Mooseville performanse :)
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: JayDee on November 26, 2013, 10:15:44 AM
Ed, your engine is coming out and going back to street port, if that video is how a semi pp goes at 20 psi with only 255 tyres!!!


Quote from: Ed_RX7parts;868080c\'mon...its me....you know its custom baby!!!!!


check this ...almost your sister car

http://www.garaget.org/?car=57071 (http://www.garaget.org/?car=57071)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgVXTO2F95I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgVXTO2F95I)
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on November 26, 2013, 10:52:00 AM
LOL....i know....dont really wanna knock the guys build tbh.....really looking forward to how mine goes!!!!
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on November 26, 2013, 10:53:55 AM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;868079nice bring the "Semi PP Noise"!!!, you still running custom Semi PP manifold or gone Projay?


got another UIM that i will be modifying also....but that will just be for drag..( if i decide to go down that route.....)...the one i have on the car now has been designed for low down torque....so will be interesting to see how it goes.
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 12:06:09 PM
Quote from: Ed_RX7parts;868121got another UIM that i will be modifying also....but that will just be for drag..( if i decide to go down that route.....)...the one i have on the car now has been designed for low down torque....so will be interesting to see how it goes.

Low down torque with that humongous turbo???
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on November 26, 2013, 12:38:59 PM
thats the aim mate.......mine is billet and ceramic BB so should help
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 12:40:22 PM
Quote from: JayDee;868118Ed, your engine is coming out and going back to street port, if that video is how a semi pp goes at 20 psi with only 255 tyres!!!

yeah looking at the road vid it didnt seem that fast
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on November 26, 2013, 12:56:19 PM
apparently his terminals are 142 so the hp figure is obviously over inflated
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 01:04:04 PM
ahh optimistic dyno syndrome nearly as bad as butt dyno disease lol
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 01:06:26 PM
Quote from: Ed_RX7parts;868126apparently his terminals are 142 so the hp figure is obviously over inflated

He probably at half the power with that speed. Still cool though.

Oh and you drag racing ed, hmm need to rough up you car a bit, better of in tarts area.... I mean show and shine;):)
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;868127ahh optimistic dyno syndrome nearly as bad as butt dyno disease lol

I got a butt scratcher to cure that;)
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 01:10:02 PM
142 terminal on car that seems to have most of its stock interior therefore stock weight I reckon is around the 600bhp
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on November 26, 2013, 01:11:19 PM
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;868128He probably at half the power with that speed. Still cool though.

Oh and you drag racing ed, hmm need to rough up you car a bit, better of in tarts area.... I mean show and shine;):)


too right!!!....LOL
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ed_RX7parts on November 26, 2013, 01:12:14 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;868131142 terminal on car that seems to have most of its stock interior therefore stock weight I reckon is around the 600bhp

I agree!!!
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 01:29:12 PM
I reckon low boost on a semi pp circa 16-17psi would net 600bhp
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 02:43:53 PM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;868131142 terminal on car that seems to have most of its stock interior therefore stock weight I reckon is around the 600bhp

Rwhp or fwhp? Or butt scratch hp?
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 02:49:58 PM
flywheel for sure
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 02:54:22 PM
Yeh I was meaning rwhp at half the stated hp.
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 02:56:35 PM
I think on high boost should be seeing terminals of 160 plus, if you get the gearbox changes  and ratios correct
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 03:07:10 PM
At 800rwhp? Isn\'t that what speeds James and rob hit?
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 03:22:40 PM
well they are around 700 too 800 rwhp I would imagine, you might hit 170s with the Semi PP on IRS, but after that you would need a proper drag chassis and be straight into the low 7s at 180s with the same power
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 03:27:12 PM
A proper chassis and deep pockets. 6.0 spec cage, drag box etc one day.......
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 03:35:52 PM
well I reckon the fastest 13Bs are running Semi PPs the ones running running high 6s, with Meth of course circa 1000bhp, right on limit at about 3 bar
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 04:06:12 PM
Check out E&J they\'re making 1050 hp to the wheels....streetport
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 04:13:34 PM
got as Link?
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 04:23:29 PM
Can\'t get on FB right now. I\'m using wifi in the VW garage I\'m refitting
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 04:44:59 PM
cool send later dude
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 04:49:44 PM
Will do. They\'re going for more once ignition fixed, currently at 40psi, going for another 60psi I think. They building up too a semi pp eventually and going for record
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 04:53:05 PM
has it been on the strip?
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 05:01:38 PM
Yeh, had an injector driver issue and now some ignition I think. It\'s the guys who are east coast rotary, who make the billet aluminium rotors.
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 05:06:10 PM
so not made a full pass yet, be interesting what terminals are hit when they do
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 05:10:24 PM
Yeh, Edgar is really helpful too, any questions I ask him he replies back. He shows all sorts of porting etc. Wish everyone int rotary scene was like that over here. Be much more fun.
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 05:13:56 PM
Checkout E&J rx8 on youtube
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 26, 2013, 05:34:54 PM
he does have a good rep
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 26, 2013, 06:17:17 PM
FB page https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61824566670&__user=1575515596
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ada7 on November 28, 2013, 12:59:04 PM
Stop partying and get on with it :p

Adam
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 28, 2013, 01:00:30 PM
It won\'t getting finished if he keeps taking the blonde and the brunette out for wine and food, desperate days of course
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 28, 2013, 01:00:30 PM
life is too short, party party until we are buried ha
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Ada7 on November 28, 2013, 01:36:18 PM
Ahh I remember those days :p

Adam
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 28, 2013, 01:50:58 PM
Well next step in my project is to redo my exhaust manifold so the turbo and downpipe can clear my intakes
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: Grant Monkhouse on November 28, 2013, 01:59:27 PM
Didn\'t you buy erdins mani? Mount the turbo like Gary Goldings
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 28, 2013, 02:16:22 PM
yip I did, needs to modified by about two inches forward and two inches to the side, job done
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: roborangefd3s on November 29, 2013, 03:21:03 PM
thanks for sorting my ECU this week Marco.
Title: Blitzboy 2014 Drag Project with Oldone Semi PP Engine
Post by: BlitzBoy on November 29, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
No problemo, all ready for the spring for you!