http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFn-WGZLp_I
soz for vid quality.....some ham fisted driving whilst exploring car and a nasty burn on my hand and ill think of something else in a mo!:Giggle
Very nice, sounds good too:Thumbsup!
Sounds awesome in the flesh so many people commented on the sound it made at full chat. Wish the vids where better.
Nice :) That thing seems to be quite fast too :D Any idea 0-60? :)
It\'s got to be doing 0-60 in the low 4 second range. Probably weighs less than half what an RX8 does and has the same power and torque. I\'ve often thought the Renesis would make an awesome kit car motor and the ones I have seen with it in don\'t disappoint!
Look okay, ready for national championship next year?
Its the quickest thing ive driven on track 3rd gear high revs it grips and launches you forward. 4th with the synchro issue costs a bit of time but once in 4th again in gear punch is awesome.
1 st and 2nd really got to careful. Didnt really want to launch off the line and risk the axle and 2nd just lights up....The vids are disappointing as you cant really hear whats going on. but rear wheels where lighting up and gear change into 4th sounded dreadful.
I found front end grip to be perfect not a hint of understeer. Its exiting the cornering and getting the power down smooth so you dont break traction and have to dial in opposite lock that then sends you wide. I\'m not a fan of keevil circuit tbh its not very flowing so lots of stamp on brakes and 2nd gear big turns feeding the power in. Combe is a lot more flowing and faster which should suit the car more...
Later on in day it really clicked and got all the gear changes sorted....i stopped trying to be quick in the 2nd gear corners and that made it quicker into the flowing corners as i was on the right line.
There is 1 at combe next saturday so may go up for an hour in the afternoon depending on the weather.
Putting this engine in a kitcar makes perfect sense . The money i paid for it was very reasonable...would have got me a pinto powered 1for similar.
I did speak to some lotus 7 esques.....or rather they came and spoke to me after id blown them all away and explained the virtues of rotary power. versus cost. equals very good power for pound.
Quote from: RotorHeid;867615Look okay, ready for national championship next year?
I\'m going to give it go :driving
got me license got a car not getting any younger.:Giggle
Quote from: boosted;867617I\'m going to give it go :driving
got me license got a car not getting any younger.:Giggle
I\'m over 50, still doing the hillclimb/sprint championship on a single seater.
once you into national, got hook and bet you never go back to funday.
National\'s different level once you are into it.
Castle Combe Special Gt\'s Class D for next year....its my local circuit and have been track daying for years there. Lots of different marques and some very fast machinery. The big boys are Radicals, Darians etc.
Under no illusions will be at the back but a good starting point.
Quote from: boosted;867624Castle Combe Special Gt\'s Class D for next year....its my local circuit and have been track daying for years there. Lots of different marques and some very fast machinery. The big boys are Radicals, Darians etc.
Under no illusions will be at the back but a good starting point.
Good, Good and important to have fun racing and good luck.
Quote from: RotorHeid;867625Good, Good and important to have fun racing and good luck.
Thanks mate. :Thumbsup!
Looks and sounds fantastic, good work :)
Thanks mate, and more good news is that i went out to garage today and checked all fluids and all good , fired her up and she started straight away plus i still had a fair bit of fuel, brakes and tyres left so looks like its very conservative on consumables as well.
Booking the next Keevil on December 7th for some more seat time on this set up the van and trailer should be in place then. Will take a chance on weather:3Confused
Think the jobs i\'m going todo next is strip down the spare engine and get it to Carl.
And start tidying up the wiring.
All this is being done on a modest sum i\'m quite happy to disclose costs if anybody interested as a track car goes sticking a rotary engine in kitcar makes so much sense.
And thankyou all for your kind words.:Thumbsup!
Of course were interested in how much it costs. Spill the beans. I rekon maybe cheaper than building a track FD or rx8
I do not wish to know this sum of which you speak as it may mess with my budget for the RX8.
Quote from: Will66;867698I do not wish to know this sum of which you speak as it may mess with my budget for the RX8.
Don\'t worry Will we wont tell you that 7k gets an awful lot of car these days.:Ladys-man:wave:evillaugh:bandit::driving:Laugh:wiggle:spank:Giggle:rolleyes::2eek:2Rolleyes:mmmm:Snoring:eek:3Confused
Quote from: HaywardRotary;867712Don\'t worry Will we wont tell you that 7k gets an awful lot of car these days.:Ladys-man:wave:evillaugh:bandit::driving:Laugh:wiggle:spank:Giggle:rolleyes::2eek:2Rolleyes:mmmm:Snoring:eek:3Confused
Hahaha. Still 7k would give you a half decent 8 or FD for track stuff, wouldn\'t be as light but it would still have a roof.
Ill detail costs later when home from work.....but the car cos t£ 5100
The MGB looks pretty nippy! :O.... Big wing & v8?
Good work BTW, especially as the BMW spins out and you have to follow suit! :)
Looks seriously quick :)
My budget\'s a bit more than 7k! Perhaps I should alter my plans for the 8 and get one of these as well?
Ok car was 5100 and is a bit old build is stated as 94 it has a live axle instead of the more modern IRS but everything on it was re done in 2011/12. All the brakes suspension are new. The car was at some point a race car with 2.0 vauxhall xe .
I added up all the bits on the car like wide track suspension, procomp shocks digital dash, fire extinguisher harness ,cage and came to a figure in excess of original asking price.....plus what an unfinished build or pinto engine 1 would have cost.
I knew the conversion was carried out using an engine with 64k on so decided a rebuild on a spare sourced engine was needed for peace of mind .....and a little power hike.
The exhaust was rebuilt and made repackable and cost £700.00 the manifold is new as the old 1 was to low to put on a bigger silencer.
Ive bought a spare set of wheels team dynamics 1.2 for £500.00
Seat for £100.00
serviced it £200.00
I was saving for an old Radical prosport or at a touch sr3 and had enough cash but the servicing and running cost are ridiculous and i was up against 100k budgets.
The great thing about Special gts is the winner in each class with the highest points is the overall championship winner so even though someone may have better machinery is you\'ve had better results within your class you can take overall championship.
|I still need to spend out on Trailer, rebuild, clutch, and garage awning but will still be ok in monetary terms. Carls given me a very reasonable price on building me an engine with me doing the remove and install and refresh at end of season. This has all been budgeted for
The car is simple in terms of build and working on it...technically a large go kart. No bad back as most stuff is easy to work on...
Nose cone £70, cycle wings £60 pair. Small 15 or 13 " wheels cheap. Ebay is a wash with parts and so many forums and companys to gleam info from.
Its tatty in places and i hope to give the body a colour change as not to keen on BRG.
I think i got it cheap as it has a rotary in it......if it had a similar s2000 powered engine in it i think maybe 8 or 9k. I dropped the asking price £600.00 by simply saying 99% of people are gonna walk as soon as they read Rotary! He should have said yeah but i\'m talking to you and your the 1%! But thats history now.
Road track or race this conversion makes sense as Rotary power is cheaper than piston power. Any engined car driven on track will return low mpg, and eventually will need rebuilding.
Will,
i dont know what you intentions are but you need to find a series you want to compete in and download the regs to see if suitable....my original intention was an rx8 in the castle combe saloons but they apply a stupid co=efficient on rotarys and turbos not originally fitted OEM are not allowed so you cant run with turbos RX8.
In summary 10-11 K set up on the grid.:3gears-rh
I just want to give it go and have some fun.;)
Mine\'s probably going to run in Club RWD Time Attack initially so I\'ve got very little restrictions. Depending on funds I might look at competitive racing series but I like the profile of Time Attack and there\'s not an RX8 racing in it and it gives me a chance to get the car set up with an accurate measure of its pace without banging doors with other racers or trotting round at the back.
Quote from: fil_auto;867747The MGB looks pretty nippy! :O.... Big wing & v8?
Good work BTW, especially as the BMW spins out and you have to follow suit! :)
Looks seriously quick :)
Yeah the mbg is a serious piece of kit got more details on youtube...search under V8bloke happy the car could catch him as gave me a good indication of pace as hes a castle combe regular.
Bmw...yeah i made a hash of that....:Laugh he was drifting out all day. Seen him break away and i got straight off the gas...
lots todo and learn. :D
The V8\'s got 368 bhp!
.....but only 4500 rpms to play with not 9200!
FD shell 1500-2000
Engine rebuild 3500
Suspension 1000-1500
Wheels & tyres 1000-1500
Single turbo (optional) $3500 from US. TDx35R system
Supporting fuel system ~£750
Roll cage 1500-2000
Extra added lightness £priceofagrinderandcuttingdisksadrillandsomeholesaws
Racing seat - Kirkey racing aluminium seat I got for £150 second hand
Harnesses - ?????
Clutch - ?????
Poly bush kit - ?????
Gearbox - £150
Anything else iv missed?
Harness are about £150
And you forgot fire suppression system £1000.
Quote from: Will66;867796Harness are about £150
And you forgot fire suppression system £1000.
£1,000 for a fire extinguisher?!! I can steal one from site for you for the bargain price of £500 if you want? I can get replacements too for bargain special price to you will for £100.
Seriously though it\'s just an extinguisher and some piping. Nice and easy and cheap:D
I suppose if you wanna go racing really cheap then an rx8 can be picked up for 1500 and just add roll cage harness and suspension.
A running FD can be had for 2500-3500, add roll cage harness and suspension.
It can be fairly cheap until you want to start winning
Quote from: boosted;867777Yeah the mbg is a serious piece of kit got more details on youtube...search under V8bloke happy the car could catch him as gave me a good indication of pace as hes a castle combe regular.
Bmw...yeah i made a hash of that....:Laugh he was drifting out all day. Seen him break away and i got straight off the gas...
lots todo and learn. :D
Quote from: boosted;867778The V8\'s got 368 bhp!
Good times man :Thumbs-up :3gears-rh
Intercooler and radiator. Brakes!
Ecu, injectors and mapping.
Quote from: boosted;867800Ecu, injectors and mapping.
Fuel system covers injectors. Mapping comes with rebuild.
But ~£350mapping + 350-500 for apexi ecu and commander.
Intercooler and rad off eBay £250 tops. They work, I know they do.
£10,000 is a good number just to get a car ready to go racing. Discs and pads are perishable items so I wouldn\'t add them I to initial cost but a set of good disks is ~£400 pads??? Dunno.
I\'d love to build a race car, maybe I could turn rx4 into one once iv ran 10 seconds up 1/4 mile as that\'s my only goal with that.
£1,000 for a fire extinguisher?!! What a...? Sparco system is about 250€-300€ here...
Quote from: Grant Monkhouse;867802£10,000 is a good number just to get a car ready to go racing. Discs and pads are perishable items so I wouldn\'t add them I to initial cost but a set of good disks is ~£400 pads??? Dunno.
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You need to spend over £1000.00 on bigger decent discs callipers and pads for front of car if you want to be able to race well.
The initial investment has to be there along with cost.
You can buy a lot cheaper in stock size but you will rapidly run out of brakes in a circuit race of around 15 laps.
Track days are no where near as hard on a car cos you can take it easy now and again, but in racing you want to be able to just think about driving an not keep wondering when the brakes are going to fade.
The one thing that makes your car go faster on track more than any other is stopping power, and it inspires confidence in the car more than anything else.
I agree with the brake statement 100%. same consistent braking point lap after lap no fad....my little coltie will close up a much more powerful car under braking....evo brakes on it!...
fast in spin out!!!!!
I agree with Boosted and Carl. With good brakes you can dive to a corner/curve over and over again. And you can overtake with "who has bigger balls" style braking in every lap. Dont have to worry about will it stop or not :)
But cars weight and balance plays big part in that too. :)