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General => General Technical => I. C. E. & Electrical => Topic started by: Chawkie on February 03, 2013, 12:54:08 PM

Title: FD3S electrical woes!!!
Post by: Chawkie on February 03, 2013, 12:54:08 PM
A week ago I had the capicators replaced on my clocks to attempt to fix my odometer (didn\'t work)!

I refitted the clocks and now the following are not working, which were prior to removing the clocks!!!

Indicators (relay clicks on and off quickly but no lights working)
Radio
Parking lights
Tail lights
Brake lights
Interior lights
Light for ignition
Lights for door locks
Lights on the clocks (but odometer back light does work)

What is working now, from what I can see so far:
All gauges and warning lights on the dash
Headlights
Reversing lights

I\'ve removed the clocks twice to ensure all the connectors are in correctly, checked all interior and engine bay fuses!!!!

What am I missing?
Title: FD3S electrical woes!!!
Post by: TRIND-FD on February 03, 2013, 03:57:09 PM
Dimmer switch ?
Title: FD3S electrical woes!!!
Post by: Chawkie on February 03, 2013, 03:59:01 PM
Quote from: TRIND-FD;849652Dimmer switch ?

What about the dimmer switch?

Went back looking at it, can\'t see any damaged ignition wires either
Title: FD3S electrical woes!!!
Post by: TRIND-FD on February 03, 2013, 06:31:54 PM
Quote from: Chawkie;849653What about the dimmer

Is it plugged in.
Title: FD3S electrical woes!!!
Post by: Chawkie on February 03, 2013, 07:03:21 PM
Quote from: TRIND-FD;849668Is it plugged in.

I couldn\'t say for sure. Everything worked before I removed the clocks 2 weeks ago and the dimmer switch was never touched so don\'t understand how it would effect it, particularly things like the tail lights and brake lights not working for example. How is the dimmer linked?
Title: FD3S electrical woes!!!
Post by: Metalorama on February 03, 2013, 07:20:56 PM
If everything is the same as it was, bar the capacitors, is it possible it\'s them? Are they polarity sensitive and fitted the right way? Right value? Or maybe even solder shorted to something or a bad solder join (I\'m assuming they\'re soldered on to s pcb?) Not trying to bad mouth workmanship or anything, these things happen all the time, just to me if they were working and everything else is in order I\'d check the caps first.
Title: FD3S electrical woes!!!
Post by: Chawkie on February 03, 2013, 07:55:27 PM
Quote from: Metalorama;849673If everything is the same as it was, bar the capacitors, is it possible it\'s them? Are they polarity sensitive and fitted the right way? Right value? Or maybe even solder shorted to something or a bad solder join (I\'m assuming they\'re soldered on to s pcb?) Not trying to bad mouth workmanship or anything, these things happen all the time, just to me if they were working and everything else is in order I\'d check the caps first.

I didn\'t do the work myself so I can\'t answer that really, wasn\'t there for the job being done either. It\'s quite possible its something to do with the odometer but could this effect the power supply for the radio, tail lights, horn and other items on the list above. I think its something unrelated to the odometer work done. A friend suggested looking at the ignition but there doesn\'t appear to be anything disconnected here.

Could it be something like an earth?
Title: FD3S electrical woes!!!
Post by: Metalorama on February 03, 2013, 11:59:08 PM
Quote from: Chawkie;849676I didn\'t do the work myself so I can\'t answer that really, wasn\'t there for the job being done either. It\'s quite possible its something to do with the odometer but could this effect the power supply for the radio, tail lights, horn and other items on the list above. I think its something unrelated to the odometer work done. A friend suggested looking at the ignition but there doesn\'t appear to be anything disconnected here.

Could it be something like an earth?

I honestly couldn\'t tell you, I don\'t know anything about the FD wiring, just what I thought if all the wiring is good then it could easy be the only variable that has changed. Yeah a bad ground can cause all sorts of stupid problems, so could be. I\'d check everything is connected properly for sure, and as you say grounds. Any blown fuses?
Title: FD3S electrical woes!!!
Post by: Chawkie on February 04, 2013, 12:13:00 AM
Quote from: Metalorama;849698I honestly couldn\'t tell you, I don\'t know anything about the FD wiring, just what I thought if all the wiring is good then it could easy be the only variable that has changed. Yeah a bad ground can cause all sorts of stupid problems, so could be. I\'d check everything is connected properly for sure, and as you say grounds. Any blown fuses?

No blown fuses inside or in the engine bay.  I hope its something simple!
Title: FD3S electrical woes!!!
Post by: Metalorama on February 04, 2013, 10:39:58 AM
Looked into this a bit more and it\'s not an uncommon problem apparently, from what I\'ve read people say it\'s usually either the ignition switch or the TNS relay. It might be the TNS relay since you still have functioning headlights, as far as I can see that\'s the main difference between the relay ans the ignition switch being faulty. I read this on another forum :

"The ignition switch/harness is the main electrical feed to the  under-dash fuse box.  Virtually all systems have been affected (i.e.,  dashboard lights, tail lights, gear lights, and radio); therefore, it  must involve a major trunk line".

They say the easiest way to check is to make sure the fuses are/aren\'t getting power with a multimeter and if they aren\'t then that\'s likely the culprit. Hope this helps, I know electrical faults can be a major pain in the arse so I hope it\'s as simple as one of these.
Title: FD3S electrical woes!!!
Post by: Chawkie on February 04, 2013, 01:46:08 PM
Quote from: Metalorama;849718Looked into this a bit more and it\'s not an uncommon problem apparently, from what I\'ve read people say it\'s usually either the ignition switch or the TNS relay. It might be the TNS relay since you still have functioning headlights, as far as I can see that\'s the main difference between the relay ans the ignition switch being faulty. I read this on another forum :

"The ignition switch/harness is the main electrical feed to the  under-dash fuse box.  Virtually all systems have been affected (i.e.,  dashboard lights, tail lights, gear lights, and radio); therefore, it  must involve a major trunk line".

They say the easiest way to check is to make sure the fuses are/aren\'t getting power with a multimeter and if they aren\'t then that\'s likely the culprit. Hope this helps, I know electrical faults can be a major pain in the arse so I hope it\'s as simple as one of these.

Thanks for taking so much time to think about this. That\'s a great help. Im away all week so will def be checking this the weekend